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omiNATION Gallente Vanguard of the Ouroboros Nation	Posted - 2007.11.04 05:25:00 - [1] Why is it that I can see t2 drones in my scanner that are in range of my probes, but when I drop a probe, they never show up? [sig] EVE, basically an MMORPG with prison rules. [/sig]
Roemy Schneider BINFORD Solidus Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.04 05:30:00 - [2] why do 24/7 shops have locks on their doors? - putting the gist back into logistics
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.11.04 05:56:00 - [3] And what's with the razorblades slot in airplane bathrooms? Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Boomershoot Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.	Posted - 2007.11.04 05:58:00 - [4] why do you ppl keep asking? Originally by: 'CCP Nozh' We did not expect the requests to prematurely end dear Zulupark's existence in this universe, some of which were very imaginative
Kilrex	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:18:00 - [5] If a noob dies to a NPC, does anyone care?
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:19:00 - [6] Why do drive thru ATMs have brail? Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:23:00 - [7] Why do we drive on parkways and park on driveways? - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Verx Interis Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:42:00 - [8] Why do you think we have an answer to any of those? -----sig-starts-here------ I survived Armageddon Day. I'm just too lazy to put a picture of a nuke in here.
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.04 06:47:00 - [9] Why ask why? Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
sheis	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:45:00 - [10] Originally by: omiNATION Why is it that I can see t2 drones in my scanner that are in range of my probes, but when I drop a probe, they never show up? Ya its so hard 5000 chinese/russian trial accounts can scan out a ship in deadspace with a week training. Probing WAS an art and science. A good prober was invaluable. Now any ****** who can fit a launcher can find anyone in a system.
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:53:00 - [11] Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 04/11/2007 07:54:37 Originally by: sheis Originally by: omiNATION Why is it that I can see t2 drones in my scanner that are in range of my probes, but when I drop a probe, they never show up? Ya its so hard 5000 chinese/russian trial accounts can scan out a ship in deadspace with a week training. Probing WAS an art and science. A good prober was invaluable. Now any **** who can fit a launcher can find anyone in a system. Points to expolration and the need for the unwashed masses to be able to scan down a site without 2 rank 5 and 1 rank 8 skill to level 5.. TBH ships (and only ships) should still require level 5 probe skills to snuff out with any consistancy.. Originally by:** David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
sheis	Posted - 2007.11.04 07:58:00 - [12] Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Originally by: sheis Originally by: omiNATION Why is it that I can see t2 drones in my scanner that are in range of my probes, but when I drop a probe, they never show up? Ya its so hard 5000 chinese/russian trial accounts can scan out a ship in deadspace with a week training. Probing WAS an art and science. A good prober was invaluable. Now any **** who can fit a launcher can find anyone in a system. Points to expolration and the need for the unwashed masses to be able to scan down a site without 2 rank 5 and 1 rank 8 skill to level 5.. TBH ships should still require level 5 probe skills to snuff out with any consistancy.. Im certain there are ways to make exploration suitably easy for idiots without turning probing into the joke that it is now. A week training and you can now easily and reliably find a ship in dead space. Thats just ******. Now its so easy its ASSUMED that you will be scanned out near instantly. Its just stupid how easy and how low SP is required now.
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.04 08:00:00 - [13] Originally by: sheis Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Originally by: sheis Originally by: omiNATION Why is it that I can see t2 drones in my scanner that are in range of my probes, but when I drop a probe, they never show up? Ya its so hard 5000 chinese/russian trial accounts can scan out a ship in deadspace with a week training. Probing WAS an art and science. A good prober was invaluable. Now any **** who can fit a launcher can find anyone in a system. Points to expolration and the need for the unwashed masses to be able to scan down a site without 2 rank 5 and 1 rank 8 skill to level 5.. TBH ships should still require level 5 probe skills to snuff out with any consistancy.. Im certain there are ways to make exploration suitably easy for idiots without turning probing into the joke that it is now. A week training and you can now easily and reliably find a ship in dead space. Thats just ****. Now its so easy its ASSUMED that you will be scanned out near instantly. Its just stupid how easy and how low SP is required now. I agree? Originally by:** David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
sheis	Posted - 2007.11.04 08:05:00 - [14] Ya sorry. Been ****ed that my valuable trade has been reduced to rubbish. Covert ops/recon pilot who was an awesome prober was a valuable asset that was sought after by just about everyone. Now its trial account in a heron.
TrDuff Minmatar No one Cares	Posted - 2007.11.04 08:11:00 - [15] Edited by: TrDuff on 04/11/2007 08:14:07 Why are bank tellers called tellers? They should be called askers, all they do is ask you questions, they don't tell you anything.
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.04 08:20:00 - [16] Indeed.. And why don't they call apartments togetherments? That other thread was right.. English is goofy.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.11.04 08:23:00 - [17] Why do they sell cigarettes at gas stations, the last place you're allowed to smoke?
Gunzoid	Posted - 2007.11.04 09:05:00 - [18] Can you cry under water? Why doesn't glue stick to the inside of the bottle? Why is it said that an alarm clock is going off when really its coming on? You know the signs on restaurant doors? No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service? what if someone goes in with No Pants? Would the restaurant still have to serve them? How's come people tell you to stay a kid for as long as you can. Yet the moment you do anything childish or immature they tell you to grow up.
omiNATION Gallente Vanguard of the Ouroboros Nation	Posted - 2007.11.05 02:13:00 - [19] well this was pleasant. [sig] EVE, basically an MMORPG with prison rules. [/sig]
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.11.05 02:17:00 - [20] Originally by: omiNATION well this was pleasant. Points at your sig If they were in range and you still didn't hit them, they were in deadspace. Snoop range is around 750mil, but for probing mission runners you want to try Quest. Pick the type according to the ships racial sig...ie Gravi for ravens etc. You now owe me 100isk for genuine advice
Sartaron Amarr LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:15:00 - [21] Its usually very easy to get in Range for Snoops. You just have to scan "up and down" a little. Dunno if this really helps or if its just my imagination... hehe. And always also scan for drones, not only ships. Helps much ;-) If your lucky AND have good skills, you get the raven before he realizses and has completed its alignment for warp... harrharr
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:51:00 - [22] Why is there only one Monopolies and Mergers commission? -- Awwwww Diddums! Did I wardec your highsec alt recently or something?
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.05 09:57:00 - [23] How about we change probes from "over here!" into...."generally in that direction" probes. For ships that is. Then if you want to snif out the exact location of a ship, you need to target it for the probe.(so to speak) Now that would give you the info on the ship, but that would also cause a fine little add to the world. The probe would show up for the ship your sniffing out and could be even shot down My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Dr Slaughter Rabies Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:47:00 - [24] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Why do drive thru ATMs have brail? <-- this is worrying CCP this is not the nerf you are looking for...
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.05 10:54:00 - [25] why kamikazes of WW2 did wear a helmet? ------ Proud Janitor of Tides of Silence
Lo KeTral	Posted - 2007.11.05 13:24:00 - [26] I really love the title of this thread
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.05 13:32:00 - [27] Originally by: Lo KeTral I really love the title of this thread You mean somthing like this? My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
MrTripps Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:27:00 - [28] Is your overview set up to view drones? Is your scanner set to follow your overview? Certainty of death...small chance of success...what are we waiting for? - Gimli
Wild Rho Amarr GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:30:00 - [29] Why can't I be a midget!?
ChironV Caldari VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.11.05 14:37:00 - [30] Well I prefer my probing to be hard, soft probing is no fun and has me reaching for the Cialis. ________________________________________________ It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion,

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