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Pruzkumnik
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Posted - 2004.02.29 23:25:00 -
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This game getting boring. Group of week-end junkies making play-time for other players miserable again. They sit just under sentries and pounding any traveler with 5+ battleships sitting around gate not fat then 5km.
1st EVE wouldn't allow constant PKing of people on same place. Before castor people get fall under -5 in security and they couldn't return even to 0.1 without CONCORD chasing them to death. Now these people kill endlessly without loosing access to space with security above 0.0.
When this genocide would end? Criminals should stay in 0.0 and never return back to 0.1. Once criminal ever criminal.
Let's flames from criminals begin. I don't care about criminals. I does care about my playtime and it's seriously hurt by these jerks! Let's petition guys we want security!
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Stained
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Posted - 2004.02.29 23:37:00 -
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Shut.
Up.
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Lexus666
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Posted - 2004.02.29 23:39:00 -
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What Stained said.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.02.29 23:44:00 -
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Why not get a group of bships to take them out? If they're podding people in empire they've gotta have a low sec status.
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Aelita
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Posted - 2004.02.29 23:46:00 -
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No they haven't and if you attack them you will be shoot by sentries. By same sentries which doesn't harm them...
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Imperishable
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Posted - 2004.02.29 23:47:00 -
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I thought what should be done is CCP organizing small events in empire systems with many pod kills. So a decent fleet of players is assembled the clear the systems. It could be done with agent missions.
I'm not particularly against gate camping, I just think it's a good opportunity for special events.
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Pruzkumnik
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Posted - 2004.02.29 23:51:00 -
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Gate camping? In 0.4 system are you joking? It's gate directly to 1.0 system. It suppose to be a bug. These people kill over 40 people and theirs security status didn't move down a bit!
Before castor after few kills in space with security above 0.0 and you was under -5.0. This did prevent criminals to enter Empire controles space, but now it's pure joke.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.02.29 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: Jash Illian on 01/03/2004 00:03:40
genÀoÀcide
n.
- The systematic and planned extermination of an entire national, racial, political, or ethnic group.
Err...Sorry but given the numbers involved and knowing m0o:
- I doubt how they're killing people is very systematic. About as systematic as a mulcher
- I doubt it was planned. 'Planned' indicating something beyond "Hey, let's go kill in <throw dart at star map>
- I doubt they're being all that discriminate
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Waitafeckingsecond...I just noticed something: You titled the thread "Orvolle Again"
I mean come on...At least pretend you didn't know! Create a n00b alt or something to feign pure innocence for the sympathy vote!
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Silverlancer
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:03:00 -
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THIS GUY IS NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT GAME MECHANICS.
He's talking about a BUG that lets m0o kill all they want without losing sec status.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:09:00 -
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THIS GUY IS NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT GAME MECHANICS.
He's talking about a BUG that lets m0o kill all they want without losing sec status.
1) His primary complaint is about game mechanics.
2) If there is a bug where the people involved are not taking sec hits, this is not the forum for it. An exploit petition is...
Except I suspect such action would verify that sec hits are being taken.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:10:00 -
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If they can kill above -5 players in Orvolle, don't be in corporate war and not lose any security status and not already be at -10, I think that CCP should ban the exploiters.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Pruzkumnik
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:11:00 -
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Yes all what I call in is real security status which will prevent for criminal access to secure space nothing else. They could do theirs criminal acts but they need to be punished for it. Actually EVE is seriously broken in game is no punishment for homicide!
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:15:00 -
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I honestly would not be suprised if that system broke in the last patch. I did the same thing as m0o but in Ostingele (mostly) and I have my -9.9, now if people can stand all day and farm nice industrials without any cost whatsoever in a 0.4 and get away with it, it's just another reason to cancel subscription.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:17:00 -
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I honestly would not be suprised if that system broke in the last patch. I did the same thing as m0o but in Ostingele (mostly) and I have my -9.9, now if people can stand all day and farm nice industrials without any cost whatsoever in a 0.4 and get away with it, it's just another reason to cancel subscription.
Oh please, Skillz. Just stop. I took a sec hit in Ostingele twice firing on your corp mates.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:25:00 -
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Oh, you found a bug.
1) Did you report it?
2) Did you exploit it for your own gain?
The first thing is good, makes CCP like you, the latter makes everyone hate you and CCP if they don't do anything about it.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:28:00 -
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I think the point they wanted to get across with the Orvolle highway connection was to doublecheck your map at all times.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:28:00 -
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Oh, you found a bug.
1) Did you report it?
2) Did you exploit it for your own gain?
The first thing is good, makes CCP like you, the latter makes everyone hate you and CCP if they don't do anything about it.
Noo... I didn't find a bug. I fired first. Call me strange, but I try not to let people I know are going to try to kill me take the first shot (after checking the range to the nearest sentry gun, of course).
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:31:00 -
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Security status not dropping 
Dont blabber on the forums unless you have the facts right, it¦s always best.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:39:00 -
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I assume that those corpmembers of mine were all below -5.0 (Not all of them are)
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:40:00 -
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And Omniwar, I stated 'if' before everything I wrote. Yes, you can have a lot of podkills before you drop from, for instance 4.0 to 0.0
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.03.01 00:53:00 -
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The loss of security status is the same way as when gaining sec stat from killing NPC.
It only registers the highest change every 10-15 minutes and it is in percentage.
-0.5% combat - aggression
-2.0 combat - ship kill
-12.5% comabt - pod kill
And thats a bit more than for killing a NPC battleship.
+0.005% law enforcement - security status change
Spawn of the Devil
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.01 01:00:00 -
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Well, you just gotta love the devs. The faster you gank, the more cost effective it gets.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.03.01 01:02:00 -
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I assume that those corpmembers of mine were all below -5.0 (Not all of them are)
Nooooo...try again. Okay, we'll take it from the top:
1) I have a positive sec rating
2) I run into Killer Clowns in Ostingele
3) I run into Keenon, Poseidon and will9anthony. All who both have sec ratings significantly below -5.0
4) But I fire on Psychopath and Makeh (who isn't in Killer Clowns but he's camping the gate with Poseidon and will9anthony so gets lumped in with the rest of you) first.
5) My ship's computer merrily informs me of a sec rating change for initiating aggression against these poor, innocent victims.
Are we clear now? Your 'broken' Ostingele ain't broken.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
darth solo
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Posted - 2004.03.01 01:06:00 -
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The problem seems to be, that when mOo camp the gate, they do it in very large numbers. NO1 wants to have lag fueled fleet battles. but their tactics are spot on, we have done the same on many occasions, and killed quite a few pirate ships.
as for the security, i think its bugged, u sometimes get a hit, u sometimes dont. we have even podded in empire, and still no hit.
we have went there many times, and used to keep orvolle clear night after night. i think what u need to do is get all the guys in luminaire to actually defend the area, cause we wont b doing it all the time.
if u have a problem, big ships and many of them usually work.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.03.01 01:36:00 -
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On the other hand, is it really that hard to glance at the map and look for giant red shipkill dots in empire? It really isn't that hard to spot them, and avoid them. I say yay moo for finding a way to kill people in low empire without exploiting. It's not like one person can go on a killing spree, from what I've seen this tactic requires a fair bit of team work and modules like shield transfer arrays. Just stay away from them if you don't want to die, it's one system out of 5000.
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.03.01 02:06:00 -
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This game getting boring. Group of week-end junkies making play-time for other players miserable again. They sit just under sentries and pounding any traveler with 5+ battleships sitting around gate not fat then 5km.
1st EVE wouldn't allow constant PKing of people on same place. Before castor people get fall under -5 in security and they couldn't return even to 0.1 without CONCORD chasing them to death. Now these people kill endlessly without loosing access to space with security above 0.0.
When this genocide would end? Criminals should stay in 0.0 and never return back to 0.1. Once criminal ever criminal.
Let's flames from criminals begin. I don't care about criminals. I does care about my playtime and it's seriously hurt by these jerks! Let's petition guys we want security!
Hi im a typical carebear,
all i want to do is fly around wherever i want in total and complete safety and never have to worry about anything. Please CCP make this possible. pretty please stop all those nasty pirates killing us poor defensless people who only wish to mine in grids for untold millions of isk, we also only wish to fly around anywhere not at our desks. All i want to do is turn on my computer, start macro and come back 8 hours later to find i have 34093490834isk more than i had at the start of the day.
STFU
Sass
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.01 02:10:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 01/03/2004 02:12:28
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Shut.
Up.
I would add the F-word in between, but I'm not allowed to flame people who's ideas I disagree with in the way others are.
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Dig your hole and go home you jerk.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.03.01 02:16:00 -
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Edited by: Sassinak on 01/03/2004 02:18:04
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No they haven't and if you attack them you will be shoot by sentries. By same sentries which doesn't harm them...
erm..
Whatever gave you that impression. At want point did you ASSume that the sentries were not shooting at us? the sentries wont attack you, as they are busy attacking us... the entire time we are sat there. ASSumption is the mother of all ****ups my dear. Get a clue
Sass
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.03.01 02:21:00 -
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This game getting boring. Group of week-end junkies making play-time for other players miserable again.
When this genocide would end? Criminals should stay in 0.0 and never return back to 0.1. Once criminal ever criminal.
Let's flames from criminals begin. I don't care about criminals. I does care about my playtime and it's seriously hurt by these jerks! Let's petition guys we want security!
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1. boring to jump into a camp??? brought those rare expanders on your indy again? may isuggest you start using some of those weapons that get dusty in your hangars?
2. miners should stay in their belts and never return.. once a miner, ...
3. hm. petion. for once??
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.03.01 02:41:00 -
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Edited by: Sassinak on 01/03/2004 02:18:04
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No they haven't and if you attack them you will be shoot by sentries. By same sentries which doesn't harm them...
erm..
Whatever gave you that impression. At want point did you ASSume that the sentries were not shooting at us? the sentries wont attack you, as they are busy attacking us... the entire time we are sat there. ASSumption is the mother of all ****ups my dear. Get a clue
The actuality is a lot simpler than what people suspect:
When jumping or warping in, people will not see the graphic effect of the sentry guns firing if they are already firing. You actually have to be there when they start firing to see any beam from the sentry gun, to the best of my knowledge.
Toss in the fact you prolly killed them in a few seconds flat, with the notify message for multiple ships causing damage to them and them being entirely unused to being shot at in the first place... Well people tend to immediately yell "The guns weren't firing!".
Reality:
The guns were firing, they didn't see a graphic effect of them firing and they were a little too busy watching their ship disintergrate to notice any notify messages of the sentry guns firing on someone else. If those messages weren't overwritten like notify messages tend to do when multiple ones are sent and received at the exact same time.
Sending them back to a clone station just wipes the ingame log for good measure.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
FoxHunt
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Posted - 2004.03.01 02:44:00 -
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I suggest taking a vacation from Orvolle Pruz, it might save you from a bit of hypertension.
If it gets dicey, do what I always do...throw my mother in a shuttle and send her to the gate first. 
Fox
"If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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Jequan
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Posted - 2004.03.01 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: Jequan on 01/03/2004 10:16:13
I flew through there and through whole syndicate in a hoarder yesterday when over 7k player were on and all pirates where there....
Use your imagination guys.
The map can't show pilots in space for no reason.
Oh end the directional scanner is worth a lot too. 
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fuze
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Posted - 2004.03.01 10:46:00 -
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I just think is a bloody outrage CONCORD looks the other way. You even might suspect they are bribed to do so.
They have trouble keeping their Captains in line and it's even said they are tampering with clones.
This should be investigated immediately.
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Posted - 2004.03.01 11:12:00 -
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Heh. m0o are great neighbours at Orvolle. They always leave great stuff floating in space after their parties. Stuff that we take and use to gank other folks in a system near you. ;)
Besides, running through their blockades is great fun and good live practise. Nothing locks as fast on my blockade runner as a m0o veteran's battleship.
In short; stop whining.
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Aelita
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Posted - 2004.03.01 19:06:00 -
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Story repeats today. When will security ratting work? When sentries will not be just joke in secure space?
I would like to see them as pre-Castor and working security ratting again. Or bunch of teenagers will turn EVE into gankfest. I'm loosing interest in games slowly.
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Negotiator Navy
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Posted - 2004.03.01 19:50:00 -
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they ARE working as pre-Castor, idiot =)))) except u can't destroy them now and they have a little bigger range...
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.03.01 20:06:00 -
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Sentries have a 50 km range, regardless of techlevel if you're attacking players. Sentries were destroyable but they insta respawn. I think it's was m0o and destroyed them way back and had a farming party.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.03.01 20:24:00 -
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WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL HERE??
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.03.01 20:39:00 -
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All I have to say is Orvolle is a nice place to jump from to Empire space. You can travell this anytime you want when you have more than 4million skill points. The mOo are over rated. 0.0 is for the expieranced pilot not the guys getting thier first cruiser.
Soon pirate corps will have a real fight from 0.0 space and then see who is crying.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2004.03.01 20:45:00 -
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Story repeats today. When will security ratting work? When sentries will not be just joke in secure space?
I would like to see them as pre-Castor and working security ratting again. Or bunch of teenagers will turn EVE into gankfest. I'm loosing interest in games slowly.
Since obviously you have no intentions of facing m0o, tell me this:
How many solar systems are there in the universe and how many of them is m0o blockading?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Negotiator Navy
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Posted - 2004.03.01 22:47:00 -
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Soon pirate corps will have a real fight from 0.0 space and then see who is crying
i hope you are right tbh...
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.03.01 22:57:00 -
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Please keep the replies friendly.
Thank you
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.03.02 00:16:00 -
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Another clueless.
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.03.02 00:59:00 -
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I cant believe the n00bs are still whining about the sentry gun - gate camping.
Dont like it? Send in a petition.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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