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BoolCrap
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Posted - 2004.03.01 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: BoolCrap on 01/03/2004 13:09:53 ok, i've been playing mir about 4 or 5 days now, i fly a merlin & my agent often sends me out to 0.4 space.
even in 0.4 space tho, if im flying a merlin what on earth dose a 'pirate' have to gain from destroying my ship?
take last night for example, i took a mission in nonni, which sent me into aunenen. i go there kill some guritarists, aproach the floatsam when im hit by like 3 missiles, i see who did it.... some guy in a MOA, who opens communications demanding isk of me! i'm a noob, how much money he expect out of a noob?? anywho i told him to kiss my ass... lol he then pod killed me - why? i have no cargo, no isk to pay his ransom why would he waste his missiles on my measly merlin?
some of my corp say some people just enjoy PvP, lol sorry but what sort of PvP is MOA vs Merlin.
most mmorpg's i've played either make it no possible for high lvl / skilled players to attack noobs - or make it punishable / bannable.
i try'd to go place a bounty on this guy but concord wouldn't accept.
it's pethetic tbh.
Edit:- posted by ChipMo
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.03.01 13:11:00 -
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you get warned before heading to low sec that theres no retribution from santionable acts of agression.
By clicking yes you agree and jump in. There can be no punishment but revenge. "Teh lord of Nonni"
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Xavier Hawk
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Posted - 2004.03.01 13:12:00 -
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I am sorry for your loss, but FORTUNATELY, CCP created an incredible MMORPG where it is kill or be killed in some situations. I would suggest reading boards and gathering information from your corp mates to help you in EvE.
There are a lot of 'criminals' and good guys out here playing that will be happy to give you pointers, just eve-mail them.
peace...
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Sheriff Jones
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Posted - 2004.03.01 13:14:00 -
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There's the thing that, others don't know how long you've played or waht you got. Ofcourse he could've checked your info and noticed you were 4 days in a starter corp but....nobody has time to check info when bounding nasties 
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Carolynn
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Posted - 2004.03.01 13:15:00 -
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Its simple...he had might over you for that brief moment. If he reads your rant here he will feel even better.
Ah, and you are right... that had nothing to do with PvP... just good ol playerkilling.
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ChipMo
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Posted - 2004.03.01 13:18:00 -
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Quote: you get warned before heading to low sec that theres no retribution from santionable acts of agression.
By clicking yes you agree and jump in. There can be no punishment but revenge.
i got no such message, altho i did read on the forums that 0.4 or lower is dangerous space.
the point i was trying to make tho, was what dose this guy posssibly have to gain from killing a merlin? -------------------------- RARR
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.03.01 13:18:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: BoolCrap on 01/03/2004 13:09:53 ok, i've been playing mir about 4 or 5 days now, i fly a merlin & my agent often sends me out to 0.4 space.
Dont accepts them if you cant defend your self.
Quote: even in 0.4 space tho, if im flying a merlin what on earth dose a 'pirate' have to gain from destroying my ship?
loads and loads of mega and zyd
Quote: take last night for example, i took a mission in nonni, which sent me into aunenen. i go there kill some guritarists, aproach the floatsam when im hit by like 3 missiles, i see who did it.... some guy in a MOA, who opens communications demanding isk of me! i'm a noob, how much money he expect out of a noob?? anywho i told him to kiss my ass... lol he then pod killed me - why? i have no cargo, no isk to pay his ransom why would he waste his missiles on my measly merlin?
He didnt know that you had no cargo, assuming you were at a gate and not at the actual mission spawn, wich should be considered an exploit.
Quote: some of my corp say some people just enjoy PvP, lol sorry but what sort of PvP is MOA vs Merlin.
Sorry to break it to you but a frigate can kill a cruiser, heck even 2 frigates can almost kill an arma and 4 frigates do kill a scorpion as my friends did few days back in CFS space.
Quote: most mmorpg's i've played either make it no possible for high lvl / skilled players to attack noobs - or make it punishable / bannable.
We have zones where pirates cant attack you, leave the zone and get killed isnt something to cry about.
Quote: i try'd to go place a bounty on this guy but concord wouldn't accept.
it's pethetic tbh.
Edit:- posted by ChipMo
Dont place a bounty since when he has enough he will just have a friend pod him and collect the ISK, just wait you time, get an agent wich can locate people and track him down when you have the skills to kill him, heck even bring a friend or two and set a trap. Spawn of the Devil
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ChipMo
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Posted - 2004.03.01 13:22:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Edited by: BoolCrap on 01/03/2004 13:09:53
Quote: even in 0.4 space tho, if im flying a merlin what on earth dose a 'pirate' have to gain from destroying my ship?
loads and loads of mega and zyd
whats this?
Quote: take last night for example, i took a mission in nonni, which sent me into aunenen. i go there kill some guritarists, aproach the floatsam when im hit by like 3 missiles, i see who did it.... some guy in a MOA, who opens communications demanding isk of me! i'm a noob, how much money he expect out of a noob?? anywho i told him to kiss my ass... lol he then pod killed me - why? i have no cargo, no isk to pay his ransom why would he waste his missiles on my measly merlin?
He didnt know that you had no cargo, assuming you were at a gate and not at the actual mission spawn, wich should be considered an exploit.
he was camping at the mission spawn spot (the floatsam where i was supposed to save some tourists)
Quote: i try'd to go place a bounty on this guy but concord wouldn't accept.
it's pethetic tbh.
Edit:- posted by ChipMo
Dont place a bounty since when he has enough he will just have a friend pod him and collect the ISK, just wait you time, get an agent wich can locate people and track him down when you have the skills to kill him, heck even bring a friend or two and set a trap.
yes, no doubt in time i will have my revenge. :) -------------------------- RARR
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PussyCat
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Posted - 2004.03.01 13:34:00 -
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I love to gank noobs in 0.4. I wish I could in 1.0. 
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Juniper
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Posted - 2004.03.01 14:07:00 -
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Quote: I love to gank noobs in 0.4. I wish I could in 1.0. 
Why not pick on someone your own size? 
-- Gotta sell my stuff...
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.03.01 14:23:00 -
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Ok, lets make it simple.
a merlin in 0.4 that you spot at a mission spawn.
Ods it will have mega or zyd: 0% Ods it will have good mods: 0% Ods you will earn isk to cover missile cost: 0% Dificulty level of killing a merlin with a Moa: X% where X is the level ratio between the player in the merlin and the player in the Moa, usually 0-10% Risk to Moa: 0-1%
In short, what do we have, a sorry ass player who cant hack it with the big boys so he PK's newbies.
100% chance he will add your frosen corpse to his collection and show it of as him being 1337 or somthing 14m3 like that (ouch, it hurts my soul demoting myself to using elite language).
A fair warning however is that Aunenen is aparently a pirate haven, if you can I would sugest you take a look at the map and find a region of space with little or no podkills and pick an agent in that area to work for.
PC pirates seem to be more or less teritorial and thus if you are not unlucky enough to be one of their first victims you can by keeping an eye on the map be very safe.
Chip this one down to experience, get yourself a new ship and get back in the saddle.
Also, NEVER bounty PC's.
There are some pirate hunters out there but mostly the bounties is somthing the pirates brag about and when it becomes high enough to cover implant and clone costs as well as giving a nice profit they have buddies pod them for the money.
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.03.01 14:36:00 -
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Quote: i told him to kiss my ass...
Im sure that encouraged him to be merciful.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it... |

Baleur
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Posted - 2004.03.01 14:40:00 -
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there is no logic in everything in this world my young padawan.. God i gotta change my sig..
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Vorax
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Posted - 2004.03.01 14:44:00 -
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Anyone killing a Merlin in a .4 zone is simply a looser. Unfortunetly there is no as*hole test before people can sign up to the game. Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons.
Gankers..get a life :)
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ChipMo
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Posted - 2004.03.01 14:50:00 -
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lol, reading these reply's has cheered me up alot, 
ty all for your kind words  -------------------------- RARR
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.03.01 15:03:00 -
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0.4 and lower is not as dangerous as you might think. After some time you realize that some systems are just pirate hotspots. There are at least 2 in Lonetrek, Aunenen and Aurohunene. Changes are that you might meet a pirate in Dantumi, Passari or Mara to.
As for what they have to gain in killing you than it has happened that people have carried very valuable cargo in frigates and shuttles (and the can¦t know unless they take a look), after all frigates are probably the best blockade runners in the game. __________ Capacitor research |

Anna Heart
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Posted - 2004.03.01 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: Anna Heart on 01/03/2004 15:21:11
Quote: Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons.
Lol that one made me smile, heck I'll even admit it made me chuckle. that needs to be in someone's signature.  InfiniCorp, Lunatic at Arms
When you think of picking a fight remember this, I've got a big gun, and the insanity to use it. |

Ezri Dax
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Posted - 2004.03.01 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: Ezri Dax on 01/03/2004 15:27:02
Quote: the point i was trying to make tho, was what dose this guy posssibly have to gain from killing a merlin?
Nothing, but understand EVE is sometimes just a psychopath simulation...nothing more and this can be frustrating for newbies and other players, I agree. Perhaps CCP will do something in the future (if they care) ie : make impossible for players to camp at 65 km from a gate in a 0.4 sys, out of range of the sentry guns, and kill anything anyone warping to the gate.
psychopath
1 (INFORMAL psycho) someone who is very mentally ill and dangerous
2 SPECIALIZED in psychology, a person who has no feeling for other people, does not think about the future and does not feel bad about anything they have done in the past
BIG Corporation A small girl in a BIG world[/I] |

Zak Kingsman
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Posted - 2004.03.01 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Zak Kingsman on 01/03/2004 15:58:30 Actually Aunenen has had a bit of trouble with that. I was busted by a couple pira-c guys there camping the mission spawn. well the nice thing about not completing the mission was that I still had the bookmark. Round up some corp mates head back in, 2 dead mission campers. Black birds are lovely, 1st corp mate had them warp scrambled and jammed, myself in my kestrel a third corpmate in a punisher, made short work of the moa and blackbird they had..
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.03.01 17:27:00 -
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First thing:
Petition mission site camping pirates please. Mission site camping (low level especially) is considered an exploit as far as i know.
Secondly, the point of killing frigs is to get at the goodies. Lots of people stuff good mods in frigs to run blockades, so killing frigates is fine with me. I sometimes use frigs to get some really good mods to or from Curse, just only if i haven't got a BS near. I never use a industrial for hauling expensive loads thru pirate infested areas anymore.
Podding the pilot is overkill tho, unless you are at war with him.
If i was you i'd report the pirate for PKing at a mission spawn. If it can be proven he did this knowingly he should get warned or banned.
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Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Babs Johnson
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Posted - 2004.03.01 21:31:00 -
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Quote:
the point i was trying to make tho, was what dose this guy posssibly have to gain from killing a merlin?
It helps him forget about his unhappy childhood and his small manhood.
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Chepe Nolon
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Posted - 2004.03.01 21:50:00 -
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A fair warning however is that Aunenen is aparently a pirate haven, if you can I would sugest you take a look at the map and find a region of space with little or no podkills and pick an agent in that area to work for.
Every Caldari Navy agent close to nonni, new caldari etc will send ppl to all the 0.4 systems there because they have the mission spawns. I've used a lot of the agents around there and I've been sent to aunenen a lot of times, even though I was 5-6 jumps away. I just don't get it why they have to place the pirate spawns and the spawn containers for the level 2 agents in 0.4 space. Level 3 I can understand, but level 2?
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ChipMo
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Posted - 2004.03.01 22:24:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
A fair warning however is that Aunenen is aparently a pirate haven, if you can I would sugest you take a look at the map and find a region of space with little or no podkills and pick an agent in that area to work for.
Every Caldari Navy agent close to nonni, new caldari etc will send ppl to all the 0.4 systems there because they have the mission spawns. I've used a lot of the agents around there and I've been sent to aunenen a lot of times, even though I was 5-6 jumps away. I just don't get it why they have to place the pirate spawns and the spawn containers for the level 2 agents in 0.4 space. Level 3 I can understand, but level 2?
lol the agent that sent me there was lvl1 =/
& i'll put a patition in tonight see what happen's  -------------------------- RARR
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Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2004.03.01 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Enraku Reynolt on 03/03/2004 06:12:01 if someone told me to kiss their ass, I think my reaction would be to let them suck hard vacuume ------------------------------------------------ Do not let the world change you. Change the world
Here's everything I know about war: somebody wins, somebody loses, and nothing is ever the sa |

Mr nStuff
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Posted - 2004.03.01 22:50:00 -
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Your biggest problem here is.. Working for a newbie agent in Nonni..
Moving is fun. So I suggest you move away from Nonni nStuff.
5 R&D Agents, 10months, Zero BPO Offers.. Onboard navigational [Planetary Avoidance] computer.
My account will be suspended at the end of the current play period. Expires on 19. September 2004 |

wordy
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Posted - 2004.03.01 22:57:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: BoolCrap on 01/03/2004 13:09:53 ok, i've been playing mir about 4 or 5 days now, i fly a merlin & my agent often sends me out to 0.4 space.
even in 0.4 space tho, if im flying a merlin what on earth dose a 'pirate' have to gain from destroying my ship?
take last night for example, i took a mission in nonni, which sent me into aunenen. i go there kill some guritarists, aproach the floatsam when im hit by like 3 missiles, i see who did it.... some guy in a MOA, who opens communications demanding isk of me! i'm a noob, how much money he expect out of a noob?? anywho i told him to kiss my ass... lol he then pod killed me - why? i have no cargo, no isk to pay his ransom why would he waste his missiles on my measly merlin?
some of my corp say some people just enjoy PvP, lol sorry but what sort of PvP is MOA vs Merlin.
most mmorpg's i've played either make it no possible for high lvl / skilled players to attack noobs - or make it punishable / bannable.
i try'd to go place a bounty on this guy but concord wouldn't accept.
it's pethetic tbh.
Edit:- posted by ChipMo
There are some really helpfull friendly players in EVE, but unfortunatly there are some real bleeps! aswell. looks like you just met one of the latter i'm afraid
removed the profanity -Eris Discordia
"Hey, I am cool. My mum said so!" - Milhouse Van Houten
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Tripp Orsam
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Posted - 2004.03.02 01:15:00 -
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Danger makes the game more fun, my main agent is 1 jump away from 0.4 space and oh he loves to send me in that direction. If i stay in safe space for more than a couple of days the game just gets dull. I agree with not placing bounties on PC pirates, just build up your combat skills, get in a bigger ship (always keep it insured) and REMEMBER that guys name, you never know when you might be seeing him on one of HIS missions sometime, and he might not be so ready for you that time.
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Cpt Farnham
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Posted - 2004.03.02 01:43:00 -
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Its no fun when players open up on you without warning as happend to me and my corp mate. 4 kestrals camping a gate cruise missiled us. As a result it ended up with us being pod killed. There was no warning or demand for isk or the contents of our holds.. just a collection of cruise missles. I hate all missles btw damn amarr ships most of which can't take ML's Pirates are a pain but its a fact of life. just find ways to get even. -----------------------------------------------
It's not real untill it makes you laugh.
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J3tt
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Posted - 2004.03.02 21:14:00 -
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sounds like you all need to stop watching tv and play the game
gotta be careful in tigerland
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Vorgren
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Posted - 2004.03.03 01:10:00 -
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You've just run into the main reason why a persistent game world such as this with huge potential has such a low subscriber rate. Few controls allow those people to express personal traits in game which would end them up in the hospital in real life. Ask yourself why there's only one current server other than test. Real shame to but it's a cycle. No large player base, no major content change. No major content change, bored players. Bored players, childish anti-social actions. Sadly this one is going into the trash bin soon I think. Of the numerouse ones I've done AO actually had the best control. By the time you ended up heading into wild country you usually were far enough advanced to at least escape with your life. Here it's simply a case of the fully equipped long term player and or his synchophants attacking whoever is weak enough to kill easy. Real challenge there studs.
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