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Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:50:00 - [1] Ok, I noticed just how much people *** and complain and cry and whine every single time a patch is deployed.... even a little one... now my question is... why do you guys tolerate it? I mean I want to pod some of these people over and over again back into their noob clones... can't imagine if I had the power to do it with 1 command line Originally by:** Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Jenny Spitfire Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:51:00 - [2] Don't temp the Devs. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:55:00 - [3] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Don't temp the Devs. /SIGNED ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:56:00 - [4] hey, it's not like I told them to make anyone post in pink... I'd never wish something that awful on anyone! Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Freder1ck Os Lobos	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:56:00 - [5] Can i have their stuff after Wranger inst pops them with his massive E-peen?

CCP Prism X	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:57:00 - [6] We nerf the things they love? You should see the righteous fury in the current design doc I'm writing. ~ Prism X EvE Perma-Meddling Database Developer, Relocating your character to a cozy, giant secure container since 2006.

Phantom Slave Amarr Mozzaki United	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:57:00 - [7] I'm with these guys. I wouldn't doubt if some of the devs have maticulous plans to deal with whiners. Probably nerf them even more than the nerf they're whining about. ____________________ Changes on Sisi are NOT the end of the world. Wait until Rev III/Trinity is released before drawing conclusions.
Rana Ash Minmatar Aeon Trinity	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:58:00 - [8] Indeed i'd like to see an answer , or to have front row seats to the massive gank when the devs rise as one to avenge. ¦on Trinity is recruting, inquire within for details lyret dedreen
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:58:00 - [9] Originally by: CCP Prism X We nerf the things they love? You should see the righteous fury in the current design doc I'm writing. Oh god, I pray that my name is not mentioned in said design document. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare
Master Han The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:59:00 - [10] Edited by: Master Han on 06/11/2007 20:58:52 Just noticed Tarminic is no longer pink. That is why people never post w/ their mains. Afraid of being podded for being whiney *****es.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.06 20:59:00 - [11] Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 06/11/2007 20:59:27 Originally by: CCP Prism X We nerf the things they love? You should see the righteous fury in the current design doc I'm writing. I knew it! You want the nerfs to stop, for the love of Buddha, STOP whining! Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking I owned someone on forums!!!
Tarminic Forsaken Resistance	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:00:00 - [12] Originally by: Master Han Edited by: Master Han on 06/11/2007 20:58:52 Just noticed Tarminic is no longer pink. That is why people never post w/ their mains. Afraid of being podded for being whiney ****es. If they're real men they'll stand by their arguments, regardless of the consequences. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink* Forum Warfare
Galan Amarias Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:04:00 - [13] Originally by: Phantom Slave I'm with these guys. I wouldn't doubt if some of the devs have maticulous plans to deal with whiners. Probably nerf them even more than the nerf they're whining about. Bah, These devs love us too much. I'm cool with that mind you. You want to see a game where the devs really do hate the players, go buy any MMO by Sony. Shudder I'll never go back. The answer to empire ganking
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Estate	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Tarminic Originally by: CCP Prism X We nerf the things they love? You should see the righteous fury in the current design doc I'm writing. Oh god, I pray that my name is not mentioned in said design document. Mentioned? It's it's in the title. "Revelations IV: War Against Tarminic"
Haradgrim Caldari The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:53:00 - [15] Edited by: Haradgrim on 06/11/2007 21:52:48 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Ok, I noticed just how much people ***** and complain and cry and whine every single time a patch is deployed.... even a little one... now my question is... why do you guys tolerate it? I mean I want to pod some of these people over and over again back into their noob clones... can't imagine if I had the power to do it with 1 command line YOU HAVE UNLEASHED A PANDORA'S BOX OF EPIC PROPORTIONS! Your signature exceeds the byte me limit allowed on the forums-Darth Patches Oh Noes!
Lord XSiV Amarr Digital Research - Omega Protocol	Posted - 2007.11.06 21:56:00 - [16] Actually being amarr and having given up hope for some balancing, I am now on the side of the devs to nerf the snot out of everything. It will only be then that amarr will be balanced. Go nerf bat go.
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:16:00 - [17] Originally by: Lord XSiV Actually being amarr and having given up hope for some balancing, I am now on the side of the devs to nerf the snot out of everything. It will only be then that amarr will be balanced. Go nerf bat go. Until CCP decides that light AND damage from a single module is unbalancing, and turns lasers into flashlights... Quote: (Combat) Your Dual Giga Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Becq Starforged, wrecking for a pleasantly bright environment perfect for reading. -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today!
MassonA Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:41:00 - [18] Edited by: MassonA on 06/11/2007 22:41:10 another use for amarr!
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:44:00 - [19] Originally by: CCP Prism X We nerf the things they love? You should see the righteous fury in the current design doc I'm writing. If you come anywhere near my absolution i will personally ensure that you get no bree at fanfest next year >.< --------- Liberty Rogues Website
Scimon Tinker	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:44:00 - [20] Originally by: CCP Prism X We nerf the things they love? You should see the righteous fury in the current design doc I'm writing. Righteous fury ? have you been reading Wizards First Rule per chance ?
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.11.06 22:49:00 - [21] Originally by: CCP Prism X We nerf the things they love? You should see the righteous fury in the current design doc I'm writing. lol @ nerdrage Relax, I'm guilty of the same being a code monkey myself. I currently vent by introducing extremely elaborate wiki-formatting in our issue tracking system that makes the business stake-holders look like nnbs. Go me! -- Support fixing the EVE UI \| Suggest Jita fixes
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:03:00 - [22] fantastic :D Official fanboy of jenny< pink supporter! looking to work in the art department with CCP, 3 years and counting. http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Dropthi
Paulo Damarr	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:06:00 - [23] I felt sorry for Zulupark a lot of that stuff was totally unnecessary, Players whining or criticising the product is something to be expected but when it turns to insults I dont know how they put up with it. Originally by: MOTOK0 A bit like the second coming of jesus only with screaming and tears and whine threads.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:13:00 - [24] So, if we all love the devs will they nerf each other? ----- "Why can't you just be friends?" -- Oveur
Phoenix Lord The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.06 23:32:00 - [25] Its simple.. they get paid for it. _____
Alora Venoda Caldari GalTech Giant Space Amoeba	Posted - 2007.11.07 00:28:00 - [26] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Ok, I noticed just how much people ***** and complain and cry and whine every single time a patch is deployed.... even a little one... now my question is... why do you guys tolerate it? I mean I want to pod some of these people over and over again back into their noob clones... can't imagine if I had the power to do it with 1 command line ummm, i don't really think that this is a question to the devs, but maybe to the forum mods. although i am sure they browse the forums like the rest of us. honestly from the topic i was expecting some question about game mechanics. and tbh it's really the same on every game forums and goes with the territory of mmo customer service... just be glad they actually listen to us and tell us about things before they are released. what else do you expect the community to do with these forums when some change is announced? it is customer feedback, whether negative or positive. and despite those who whine and rant, there are many of us who actually offer suggestions instead of just trolling and complaining. oh and if you are referring to the "server is down" threads, i think they mainly exist because we would rather be playing... but we can't, and we want to know any updates on the server situation as soon as possible... so naturally we go to the forums and talk about it. again, it goes with the territory - check the forums of any mmo when their servers goes offline unexpectedly. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.
Karen Serasia	Posted - 2007.11.07 00:56:00 - [27] Originally by: Phoenix Lord Its simple.. they get paid for it. That or they are like me, sadistic gits who enjoy it. The crying and personal insults gives them a warm fuzzy feeling.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2007.11.07 01:13:00 - [28] Originally by: CCP Prism X We nerf the things they love? You should see the righteous fury in the current design doc I'm writing. i hope for the love of eve that what you are thinking is in line with what i read about time someone told them off. (yea i would do it but i would have to email it to someone in bob to post to even get it looked at)
Cyber Blue Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.11.07 02:12:00 - [29] Originally by: CCP Prism X We nerf the things they love? You should see the righteous fury in the current design doc I'm writing. With great power comes great responsibility. Khan - "To the last, I grapple with thee; from Hell's heart, I stab at thee; for hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."
Taldarin Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.07 03:20:00 - [30] please sir, remain calm.
Haradgrim Caldari The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.11.08 21:27:00 - [31] Originally by: CCP Prism X We nerf the things they love? You should see the righteous fury in the current design doc I'm writing. I love the devs! yarr Your signature exceeds the byte me limit allowed on the forums-Darth Patches Oh Noes!

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2007.11.08 22:49:00 - [32] Edited by: CCP Explorer on 08/11/2007 22:49:29 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Ok, I noticed just how much people ***** and complain and cry and whine every single time a patch is deployed.... even a little one... now my question is... why do you guys tolerate it? Because I like getting paid at the end of the month? In between are valuable comments, good suggestions and accurate bug reports. When reading the rest I comfort myself in the knowledge that the ever increasing subscriber numbers of EVE indicate that there is a silent majority out there that likes what we're doing. That doesn't mean I dismiss the complaints, I read them and evaluate them in case we messed up. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Haradgrim Caldari The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.11.09 20:09:00 - [33] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 08/11/2007 22:49:29 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Ok, I noticed just how much people ***** and complain and cry and whine every single time a patch is deployed.... even a little one... now my question is... why do you guys tolerate it? Because I like getting paid at the end of the month? In between are valuable comments, good suggestions and accurate bug reports. When reading the rest I comfort myself in the knowledge that the ever increasing subscriber numbers of EVE indicate that there is a silent majority out there that likes what we're doing. That doesn't mean I dismiss the complaints, I read them and evaluate them in case we messed up. I am bookmarking this post to quote Your signature exceeds the byte me limit allowed on the forums-Darth Patches Oh Noes!
Gort Storm Guard Elite	Posted - 2007.11.09 21:29:00 - [34] For about the first two years in Eve I was in Minmatar hell: See an Amarr Battleship - wake up in a clone vat. Later, life got better. Please don't take my cookies away. I'm old and fat and forgetful. I need protection from the ruthless young techie despoilers of my zen. Have pity. Have mercy. That is all. Gorty -- When in doubt, empty the magazine.
Baleur Miners In Barges Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.11.09 21:36:00 - [35] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 08/11/2007 22:49:29 Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Ok, I noticed just how much people ***** and complain and cry and whine every single time a patch is deployed.... even a little one... now my question is... why do you guys tolerate it? Because I like getting paid at the end of the month? In between are valuable comments, good suggestions and accurate bug reports. When reading the rest I comfort myself in the knowledge that the ever increasing subscriber numbers of EVE indicate that there is a silent majority out there that likes what we're doing. That doesn't mean I dismiss the complaints, I read them and evaluate them in case we messed up. EXACTLY! Like in every single other game! Especially mmo's! The only people whining on the forums about this or that, nerfin that or this, is the minority.. The majority is playing the game, and accept what it is. If they think lasers suck, they say "okay, thats how the game is, lets try to find a way around it, damage mods?". Its like this on every single game forum. The minority whines and whines, making their voices appear as if its the opinions of ALL players, and they force changes upon the game which most people actually didnt want. Nerfs or boosts. ------------------------- This post represents my entire alliance views and opinions. Not.. ;(
Dravius Luxor	Posted - 2007.11.09 22:43:00 - [36] Imo the only whiners are the guys who think that each ship in the game has only one setup, and until you've figured out what it is, you're wasting it... The majority of us are adaptable, motivated, driven by a love of the game, and delighted to see each change introduced. If everything stayed the same all the time, there would be no progress. There are several overpowered ships and items in the game, some of which I have, some of which I'm training for. I feel guilty flying one of my ships. But guess what? When these things are nerfed I'm not going to complain about it!!! I'm just getting as much fun out of them as I can, while I can. I can't wait until someone at CCP notices the problem with hull repairers (they're effectively useless), but I'm not going to start a whine thread about it - that little comment will do. It is such a shame that whiners have the same access to the forums as us silent-ish players like myself do, in that they will always abuse it. But it's only recently I've actually felt compelled to post - if only to balance out all the bloody crying. Lots of broken hearts out there CCP, some lesser-evolved players are terrified that some things might become difficult... oh noes!!! Want my suggestion? Nerf 'em all to hell until they quit the game.
Hunter Kag	Posted - 2007.11.10 01:47:00 - [37] I say shut the GD forum down. Let everyone who has a complaint send it to [email protected] Then the ccp guys can auto reply to the email with a "thank you very much, we will take that into consideraton" and concentrate on making the game they want. Then to really make it interesting create an eve-mail only character on sisi for the people that put the time in to test stuff to make suggestions and critique changes. Of course that will never happen. I think my sarcasm meter just went off the scale... I need a beer.
cal nereus Perkone	Posted - 2007.11.10 02:09:00 - [38] Originally by: CCP Prism X We nerf the things they love? You should see the righteous fury in the current design doc I'm writing. Oh my. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Necrologic Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.11.10 02:16:00 - [39] Originally by: CCP Prism X We nerf the things they love? You should see the righteous fury in the current design doc I'm writing. That spell was so OP in second edition. It needs nerf methinks. _____________________ In the arena of logic I fight unarmed.
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.11.10 02:20:00 - [40] So, when should I start looking for my new developer account login information email?
Hunter Kag	Posted - 2007.11.10 03:53:00 - [41] Originally by: Righteous Fury So, when should I start looking for my new developer account login information email? nice try
Nian Banks Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir	Posted - 2007.11.10 07:02:00 - [42] Ok guys heres a game forum 101 guide. 1: Most players are nubs, they play their game and are oblivious of changes coming, they need protecting. 2: The smart you are the more concerned you get about a games future if you like the game, thus you post on the forum. 3: Developers are human, humans by nature are imperfect, hence devs are imperfect. If a dozen devs like an idea but a hundred players think its idiotic, then listening to those players is a smart move. 4: The more hard core players get more people in the game, they buy more accounts and generally for a game like EvE, run the infrastructure 'production' and run the alliances. CCP needs those players. 5: Alcohol is bad, MKAY! 6: If a company truly wants to know what the silent so called majority want or like, then they should ask then. Its not hard to have a YES/NO referendum on the login screen, one vote per account. But game companies are afraid of such a concept so... 7: Forums have lots and lots of useful information, those who use forums post that information, even the silent masses use it and follow those guides. So respect those who post that information. 8: CCP is in iceland, vikings settled iceland. Therefor if CCP gets antsy pantsy about what someone said, then they should learn a little bit of aggression. Anger makes the world go round. May the ancestors be remembered.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.11.10 07:26:00 - [43] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Ok, I noticed just how much people ***** and complain and cry and whine every single time a patch is deployed.... even a little one... now my question is... why do you guys tolerate it? Because I like getting paid at the end of the month? In between are valuable comments, good suggestions and accurate bug reports. When reading the rest I comfort myself in the knowledge that the ever increasing subscriber numbers of EVE indicate that there is a silent majority out there that likes what we're doing. That doesn't mean I dismiss the complaints, I read them and evaluate them in case we messed up. Just ignore the whining op and please continue to listen to those constructive people called 'whiners' Oh, and great idea the op has. Just install a dictatorship and censor every other opinion. Good idea, really.

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