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bsspewer
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.08 01:14:00 -
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The laboratory I work for is in the process of building a complete multimillion dollar lab. One key item we're in need of though is a large articulated arm that we can mount photographic cameras onto. We need to be able to move the camera around to nearly any point within the room when attached to this arm.
Some similar items would be the arm robots used to build cars or move items in a warehouse. The giant light fixture above the dentist's or surgeons head that they can move to any position.
The best we've found so far is a Photogenic Master Rail system that mounts horizontal sliding rails on other forward and back rails.
I know EVE is filled with engineers, doctors, and a wide variety of people. If you've come across some kind of articulated arm apparatus that you could mount a camera to, please let me know. Or if you know of a company that can design and build one for such a task.
I know, weird request, but you wouldn't believe how hard it seems to find someone who can make or has a mountable articulated arm such that we need.
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Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.11.08 01:34:00 -
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Mudkest
MetaForge Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.11.08 01:42:00 -
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dont know of any company that might be able too make such a thing, but all I can say, if you've come at the point where you have to ask on forums, prepare to pay LOTS isk-ies for it >.< ----- GIEV custom ship paint jobs! I want my hello-kitty-kessie!
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Marie Sklodowska
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.08 02:03:00 -
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Edited by: Marie Sklodowska on 08/11/2007 02:03:21 meant to post w/ bsspewer..lemme log him on..
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bsspewer
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.08 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mudkest dont know of any company that might be able too make such a thing, but all I can say, if you've come at the point where you have to ask on forums, prepare to pay LOTS isk-ies for it >.<
lol :) I haven't quite "come" to the point of asking on the forums, but we do expect to pay buttloads for something. To give you an idea our new lab is costing $100m+ US
PS. Don't worry, it's WELL known marie sklodowska is my alt, so I really don't care :P
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Sister Impotentata
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.08 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: bsspewer The giant light fixture above the dentist's or surgeons head that they can move to any position.
I'd think you're on the right track with this one. At the dentist's, next room over from the one with the big light, is a similar arm with a camera already attached. It's the X-Ray machine. (Actually technically the camera's not on the arm. It's in your mouth. The flashbulb is on the arm.) ----- TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Hostess Deconstructing the Twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe.
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Sazkyen
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Posted - 2007.11.08 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Sazkyen on 08/11/2007 11:17:27
Originally by: Sharupak Linkage
He said multi million dollar lab not multi billion :D
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Rutefly
Amarr Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.11.08 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Rutefly on 08/11/2007 11:33:47 Edited by: Rutefly on 23/12/1907 11:32:21 Robot on vacation
There are cheaper alternatives, like this robot arm kit for $49.95
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NightHaunter
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.08 11:47:00 -
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I'm no engineer, but when in doubt, duck tape it.
Normal arm + camera + duck tape..... profit!?
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Mudkest
MetaForge Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.11.08 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Impotentata
Originally by: bsspewer The giant light fixture above the dentist's or surgeons head that they can move to any position.
I'd think you're on the right track with this one. At the dentist's, next room over from the one with the big light, is a similar arm with a camera already attached. It's the X-Ray machine. (Actually technically the camera's not on the arm. It's in your mouth. The flashbulb is on the arm.)
hmm, could call your dentist and ask where he got his 2 arms ----- GIEV custom ship paint jobs! I want my hello-kitty-kessie!
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Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.11.08 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Sazkyen Edited by: Sazkyen on 08/11/2007 11:17:27
Originally by: Sharupak Linkage
He said multi million dollar lab not multi billion :D
Yeah, I know it was the first thing that came to mind. I remember it because the arm they built for the ISS is (Its from canada I am so ashamed to admit that it is cool ) called the Canadarm. The "International" Space Station with scores of countries setting aside their differences in the name of science, and CANADA HAS to name their contribution after their own country!...Selfish *****s!
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spurious signal
Caldari Brainiacs
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Posted - 2007.11.08 15:31:00 -
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Have you looked at FOBA systems?
They make professional camera stand/rail systems designed for large & medium format cameras and are, simply, superb. They're a joy to use, built to withstand nuclear weapons and (given the quality) not hideously expensive.
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bsspewer
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.08 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: spurious signal Have you looked at FOBA systems?
They make professional camera stand/rail systems designed for large & medium format cameras and are, simply, superb. They're a joy to use, built to withstand nuclear weapons and (given the quality) not hideously expensive.
interesting. They have standalone arms with extension's, which we could use in lieu of an overhead arm to hold the camera. The only overhead system they have is the rail system for lighting.
I wonder if we could get just an arm mount that's just long reaching, and that we don't have to constantly adjust tightening screws so it doesn't slip when extended.
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Lola Lollipop
Gallente Snakeskin Ind.
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Posted - 2007.11.08 21:34:00 -
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I can haz spare leftover million from uberLab project when finished?
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spurious signal
Caldari Brainiacs
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Posted - 2007.11.08 21:36:00 -
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Give them a call, they're used to dealing with professional photographers, who are a demanding bunch. I'd be very surprised if they couldn't come up with something bespoke for you.
Oh and did I mention how awesome their stands are to use? You can swing large format cameras around on them like they weighed nothing... position thumping great lights with mm accuracy every single time... the wheeled stands are just lovely, they glide across studio floors like they're on ice :)
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bsspewer
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.08 23:07:00 -
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Yea, I'll call them. Thanks spurious.
Our lab is actually a crimelab, so the reason we need it is to take photos of stuff spread out underneath the camera. So I need to point the camera straight down as opposed to across the room (as normal photography does). Our DNA section would use it to take up close photos of points of interest on items such as large bed sheets and bed spreads (hence the need for a long reaching arm).
Please keep posting any additional info that you guys come across in which you think will help me in my search. So far this thread has proved more helpful then anticipated.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.11.08 23:12:00 -
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Simple answer is that you should pull up google and search for an engineering firm that specializes in articulated mounts. Tell them your specs, pay some insane amount of money to get it designed and built, and everything will work perfect.
Alternatively, you can save mountains of money by jury rigging up your own version of an arm mounted camera, and have reduced quality in use.
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Sister Impotentata
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.08 23:23:00 -
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If you would generally be taking pictures straight down, and I assume it would be good if they're always taken from the same "altitude," mightn't a trolley system be better? Something like the gizmo that flies above NFL games these days.
For your case I'd build something sturdier. Assume, just for discussion, that your space is 16 x 20. Along the 20 side, just below the ceiling, I'd mount 2 inch Al square tube pointy side up, one on each side. A trolley would ride each tube. On the trolleys would be an assemblage of two 2 inch Al square tubing, 16 long, riding square to the 20s. Your camera would hang down between the two 16s, on a trolley of its own. A ratcheting assembly could be devised if repeatability is desired.
The time of an excellent welder and an excellent sheet-metal man plus materials would certainly be less than the cost of a commercial device. Where are you? I may be able to make this work if you're interested. ----- TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Hostess Deconstructing the Twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.11.08 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Impotentata If you would generally be taking pictures straight down, and I assume it would be good if they're always taken from the same "altitude," mightn't a trolley system be better? Something like the gizmo that flies above NFL games these days.
For your case I'd build something sturdier. Assume, just for discussion, that your space is 16 x 20. Along the 20 side, just below the ceiling, I'd mount 2 inch Al square tube pointy side up, one on each side. A trolley would ride each tube. On the trolleys would be an assemblage of two 2 inch Al square tubing, 16 long, riding square to the 20s. Your camera would hang down between the two 16s, on a trolley of its own. A ratcheting assembly could be devised if repeatability is desired.
The time of an excellent welder and an excellent sheet-metal man plus materials would certainly be less than the cost of a commercial device. Where are you? I may be able to make this work if you're interested.
If they are going to a simple trolley system, they might as well install an industrial ceiling hoist to move around their lab equipment as well; killing two birds with one stone so to speak.
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Sister Impotentata
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.08 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
If they are going to a simple trolley system, they might as well install an industrial ceiling hoist to move around their lab equipment as well; killing two birds with one stone so to speak.
Yeah but I don't install those so he'd be killing my bird too 
Seriously though, if I'm thinking of the same thing you're thinking of, they need to already have the steel in place to support it. Standard systems come built for standard steel sizes. If he's got Is he's cool, but if it's warehouse truss beams, I haven't seen a system for that yet. Doesn't mean I won't build one if the price is right, though. ----- TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Hostess Deconstructing the Twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.11.08 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Impotentata
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
If they are going to a simple trolley system, they might as well install an industrial ceiling hoist to move around their lab equipment as well; killing two birds with one stone so to speak.
Yeah but I don't install those so he'd be killing my bird too 
Seriously though, if I'm thinking of the same thing you're thinking of, they need to already have the steel in place to support it. Standard systems come built for standard steel sizes. If he's got Is he's cool, but if it's warehouse truss beams, I haven't seen a system for that yet. Doesn't mean I won't build one if the price is right, though.
True enough, when he said they were "building a new" lab, I envisioned a complete from-the-ground-up installation, where one can put the proper support members in place to take the loads.
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Sister Impotentata
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.08 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden a complete from-the-ground-up installation, where one can put the proper support members in place to take the loads.
Your words put my nipples online. Can you gang more contractors, battleship-pew-pew? ----- TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Hostess Deconstructing the Twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe.
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bsspewer
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.09 00:13:00 -
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Edited by: bsspewer on 09/11/2007 00:13:56 Sadly the lab is pretty much in place already. Only about 6 months left before we move in. Unfortunatly I wasn't hired at the planning phase of the lab; and when I was hired I didn't question anything they said they were installing. Now that it's getting closer to the wire I began to ask questions on what this rail system was etc. I didn't get very many answers and through my own research on it, what they've installed won't be of any use.
A trolley system won't really work, and it's in essence the same railing system they're putting in. Our photo's aren't always from a specific set height. Sometimes we need a large overall photo with the camera a great distance away. Sometimes I have to take macro shots of something only 2 inches from the lens.
I've done loads of googling, and still am.
A great visual example of what I need is this. But think w/o the attached stereo microscope and on a much larger scale. With a full arm extension of about 4ft from the pole
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Sister Impotentata
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.09 00:47:00 -
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The thing with an arm is --
If I understand correctly what you're trying to do, the exact information about where the picture was taken from is almost as important as the picture itself. With dead reckoning, a trolley system has two variables. An arm system has three variables per articulation. If you need real submillimeter accuracy you'll install some spiffy laser surveying system independent of the mount, rendering the arm v trolley argument moot. If millimeter accuracy is sufficient, I still think you'd be better served by a sturdy trolley/rail system.
At this point I'm just playing devil's advocate for fun. You give me more info, and I'll come up with more stuff. ----- TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Hostess Deconstructing the Twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe.
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bsspewer
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.09 00:58:00 -
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lol devil's advocate is fine :)
there's no measurements involved. So xyz mm adjustments are not measured. I only need to put the camera in place and snap a photo. I can't use a tripod because the tripod would have to rest ON or over the evidence (because your taking a photo straight down), and almost every time that's not feasible.
We currently use the Polaroid MP4 stand with a mount adapter to hold our digital cameras. However, the stand itself frequently is in the way of our items as well as the square base is much to small. So we're of course looking for alternatives for the new lab.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: bsspewer lol devil's advocate is fine :)
there's no measurements involved. So xyz mm adjustments are not measured. I only need to put the camera in place and snap a photo. I can't use a tripod because the tripod would have to rest ON or over the evidence (because your taking a photo straight down), and almost every time that's not feasible.
We currently use the Polaroid MP4 stand with a mount adapter to hold our digital cameras. However, the stand itself frequently is in the way of our items as well as the square base is much to small. So we're of course looking for alternatives for the new lab.
This might be out there in terms of viability, but have you considered looking into equipment suppliers for movie production and the like? I can think of no better industry for a smooth movement mount for a camera.
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Sister Impotentata
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: bsspewer there's no measurements involved. So xyz mm adjustments are not measured. I only need to put the camera in place and snap a photo. I can't use a tripod because the tripod would have to rest ON or over the evidence (because your taking a photo straight down), and almost every time that's not feasible.
See now once you say that you blow all my arguments right out of the water. Arm FTW. You're saying you just need something to help hold most of the weight of the camera so you can take a steady picture. Did you say that? Sometimes I get lost in the excitement of creation and forget about the original specs. How many high slots did you say are available? ----- TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Hostess Deconstructing the Twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Impotentata
Originally by: Derovius Vaden a complete from-the-ground-up installation, where one can put the proper support members in place to take the loads.
Your words put my nipples online. Can you gang more contractors, battleship-pew-pew?
This is starting to get a little dirty, something tells me I'm about to be asked for a CC number and expiry date. 
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Sister Impotentata
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.09 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
This is starting to get a little dirty, something tells me I'm about to be asked for a CC number and expiry date. 
I don't have an expiry date, I just have to show that my book is always up-to-date. Getting the big red B, however, satisfying zoning, flood plain, eco impact, health, and three kinds of structural; sub, grade, and up... that's where it costs you money.  ----- TANSTAAFL
Originally by: Hostess Deconstructing the Twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe.
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