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F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.11.08 08:10:00 - [1] My primary drive is quite fragmented and I'm trying to rectify this. There are a whole bunch of little red lines for fragmented files, but each time I run Defrag it only seems to remove one or two. Also, it only takes a minute or two to do the defrag. I remember that it used to take much longer, even hours to do it. So I'm thinking this could be related. I'm using XP Pro, SP2, and haven't made any adjustments that I know of. Has MS broken/changed Defrag recently? It used to be much more effective. Hell, I rarely even had any fragmentation at all. Tips? Advice? Anyone? Originally by: Karen Serasia Because some idiot decided to sell an internet connection to me and didn't think of the consequences.
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.11.08 08:17:00 - [2] Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 08/11/2007 08:18:09 Aren't the red ones things like system files, and un-movable? Freeing up as much disk-space as possible will help (even if you uninstall games, defrag, and reinstall after). Also reducing your paging file to 0Mb, rebooting, defragging, and then reinstating the debug file. Turning off hibernation for the duration of defrag (creates yet another system file). That's all I can think of. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.11.08 08:49:00 - [3] I use Diskeeper. My disk was so fuxx0red I couldn't defrag using the built in program but Diskeeper sorted it for me after a couple of passes. YMMV and all that.
Astorothe Amarr Aperture Science Industries	Posted - 2007.11.08 08:54:00 - [4] Give AusLogics a go. It's free, fast and does the damned job very well. http://www.auslogics.com/disk-defrag/index.php Web design for Eve Corps
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues	Posted - 2007.11.08 11:08:00 - [5] Originally by: SoftRevolution I use Diskeeper. QFT The tool in windows is actually just a really really really old version of diskeeper, i think its at version 10 as we speak and its pure awesomeness i swear by it. --------- Liberty Rogues Website
Sazkyen	Posted - 2007.11.08 11:19:00 - [6] Yeah, Diskeeper has an on-boot defrag option so it can access nearly all system files or files that would anyway be held by appz.
Astorothe Aperture Science Industries	Posted - 2007.11.08 11:50:00 - [7] Latest version is 2008 and it's hawt. You can pick up the home version for around $30 bucks US/AU/Canadian/NZ (all the same value now ;) ) Website design and hosting for Eve Corps and players
NightHaunter Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.08 12:27:00 - [8] Diskeeper is my friend. ^^
Kayna Eelai Gallente Shadow Legion Covenant Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.11.08 13:13:00 - [9] Originally by: Astorothe Latest version is 2008 and it's hawt. You can pick up the home version for around $30 bucks US/AU/Canadian/NZ (all the same value now ;) ) i'd rather reformat my drives than PAYING for a program that only solves a problem created by microsoft in first place. fixed to 23.15 kB (23710 bytes)
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.11.08 13:17:00 - [10] Well you can do that but it's a lot of work. Diskeeper isn't pricey and it roughly emulates having a real filing system. Bargain if you ask me.
NightHaunter Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.08 13:20:00 - [11] Originally by: Kayna Eelai Originally by: Astorothe Latest version is 2008 and it's hawt. You can pick up the home version for around $30 bucks US/AU/Canadian/NZ (all the same value now ;) ) i'd rather reformat my drives than PAYING for a program that only solves a problem created by microsoft in first place. Well if you work for a company that requires you to use a computer, write it off as a business expense, I know I did.
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.11.08 13:23:00 - [12] Quote: Aren't the red ones things like system files, and un-movable? Green My Current Project
Kayna Eelai Gallente Shadow Legion Covenant Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.11.08 13:23:00 - [13] Originally by: NightHaunter Originally by: Kayna Eelai Originally by: Astorothe Latest version is 2008 and it's hawt. You can pick up the home version for around $30 bucks US/AU/Canadian/NZ (all the same value now ;) ) i'd rather reformat my drives than PAYING for a program that only solves a problem created by microsoft in first place. Well if you work for a company that requires you to use a computer, write it off as a business expense, I know I did. i work in I&T for last 11 years. thank you very much. i didn't say i would not use a defragger, i said i would not pay for one. and it's not necessary to pay for one either, there are free ones out there, pretty good ones. fixed to 23.15 kB (23710 bytes)
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.11.08 13:29:00 - [14] Originally by: F'nog Tips? Advice? Anyone? Main tip is to shutdown as much as possible as any program running might hold files open. Before you go to bed, disable the network connection, kill firewall / AV and everything you can then run the defrag overnight. The other thing is it doesn't defrag too well if it's really full. What sort of %age space do you have free?
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.08 13:52:00 - [15] That happens sometimes with xp. Many times its because your disk is full and there isnt enough room to run the defrag. However, on occasion, it does this for no reason at all. Its just easier to go with a 3rd party disk utility like Diskkeeper or something. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Xen Gin The Dragoons	Posted - 2007.11.08 14:00:00 - [16] Defragging destroys vital digital forensic evidence! Don't do it, I still need a job to go into in a years time.
NeoShocker Caldari Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.11.08 15:09:00 - [17] Edited by: NeoShocker on 08/11/2007 15:09:43 I defragged many comps before. Using window's defrag. I seems to realize that if you have a problems using defragment, hit F8 during boot up sequence and go safe mode AND/OR have at least 25% free space or more and try defragging again. Everytime when HD space is under 25%, it doesn't finish all the way or there's something it "can't" defrag. I'll consider using Diskeeper since I'm interested to see how it performs and probably a good alternative. :) I don't usually use third party programs. ----------------------------------- Peace through power!
Betty Crooks	Posted - 2007.11.09 03:20:00 - [18] Originally by: SoftRevolution Well you can do that but it's a lot of work. Diskeeper isn't pricey and it roughly emulates having a real filing system. Bargain if you ask me. Free is an even better bargain. http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3729178/DISKEEPER_V.11.0_(BUILD_-_709)_LATEST_-_SELF_REGISTERING
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.11.09 04:27:00 - [19] Originally by: NeoShocker Edited by: NeoShocker on 08/11/2007 15:09:43 I defragged many comps before. Using window's defrag. I seems to realize that if you have a problems using defragment, hit F8 during boot up sequence and go safe mode AND/OR have at least 25% free space or more and try defragging again. Everytime when HD space is under 25%, it doesn't finish all the way or there's something it "can't" defrag. I'll consider using Diskeeper since I'm interested to see how it performs and probably a good alternative. :) I don't usually use third party programs. Thanks, I'll try the safe mode option. I have 37% free on the drive I'm trying to defrag, more if I move some cough files around, so that shouldn't be the problem. Originally by: Karen Serasia Because some idiot decided to sell an internet connection to me and didn't think of the consequences.

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