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Hikari Nakamuru Gallente Shugotenshi Genkuro	Posted - 2007.11.08 22:52:00 - [1] If you click and hold CTRL+LBUTTON+RBUTTON on your mouse and then move it to the right and zoom way in on your ship, it really changes the perspective in game, but adds a weird swaying motion to the camera. I'd love to use this camera mode, but for the constant movement of the camera. Is there a way to turn off that movement?
Stefx Gallente Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.11.08 22:55:00 - [2] Edited by: Stefx on 08/11/2007 23:04:39 Pretty cool. Try it in a mission where the rats use missiles! Now try alt-ctrl-Lbutton, and play with that magnifying glass ----------- MOP recruiting Industrialists/miners/traders/missioners/etc
Hikari Nakamuru Gallente Shugotenshi Genkuro	Posted - 2007.11.08 23:33:00 - [3] It is a pretty damn nifty camera view. I just wish it wouldn't wobble and sway around like it does. sighs
Stefx Gallente Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.11.08 23:46:00 - [4] Yeah, it's weird that people expect things to "sway" in space. ----------- MOP recruiting Industrialists/miners/traders/missioners/etc
Minia Cor	Posted - 2007.11.09 00:45:00 - [5] Originally by: Stefx Yeah, it's weird that people expect things to "sway" in space. somewhere the designers of space games got it in their heads that space is like the ocean.....
Hikari Nakamuru Gallente Shugotenshi Genkuro	Posted - 2007.11.09 01:29:00 - [6] Originally by: Minia Cor Originally by: Stefx Yeah, it's weird that people expect things to "sway" in space. somewhere the designers of space games got it in their heads that space is like the ocean..... Yeah... that and the strange inertia mechanics and how your ship always levels off horizontally. Also, not to mention how most of eve-space is NOT black like it should be heh. I wish they had stuck a little closer to real physics and how space really is instead of what we have.
NightF0x Gallente Chicken Coup Raiders	Posted - 2007.11.09 02:28:00 - [7] Originally by: Hikari Nakamuru Originally by: Minia Cor Originally by: Stefx Yeah, it's weird that people expect things to "sway" in space. somewhere the designers of space games got it in their heads that space is like the ocean..... Yeah... that and the strange inertia mechanics and how your ship always levels off horizontally. Also, not to mention how most of eve-space is NOT black like it should be heh. I wish they had stuck a little closer to real physics and how space really is instead of what we have. Who is to say that they are any where near Earth? Space isn't necessarily black all the time. It's going to get brighter as you get closer to the center of the Milky Way. Maybe it's the same idea here.
Sebastian Thor	Posted - 2007.11.09 11:10:00 - [8] If space in EVE was always black, and more realistic physics were used (i.e., the ship never really changed orientation, just direction), wouldn't the game kind of ... suck?
Asestorian Domination.	Posted - 2007.11.09 11:13:00 - [9] Edited by: Asestorian on 09/11/2007 11:13:47 Originally by: Sebastian Thor If space in EVE was always black, and more realistic physics were used (i.e., the ship never really changed orientation, just direction), wouldn't the game kind of ... suck? Yes I'd hate to have to use the zoomed in view all the time, it makes me ill. And not because of the swaying either. Edit: It's freaking awesome for screenshots though. --- MOZO
Hikari Nakamuru Gallente Shugotenshi Genkuro	Posted - 2007.11.09 12:52:00 - [10] Originally by: Sebastian Thor If space in EVE was always black, and more realistic physics were used (i.e., the ship never really changed orientation, just direction), wouldn't the game kind of ... suck? No. You obviously don't understand what true freedom of movement, inertia, and orientation would mean. Watch some Babylon 5 episodes with star fury fighter combat. The fighters will be flying in one direction and pop a thruster to spin around to face backwards while still maintaining their forward momentum and fire at whatever is following them. Something like that however would require a complete redesign of turrets, hardpoints, tracking, and fields of fire, etc. Far too much of a change for Eve, but maybe Eve II someday.

Asestorian Domination.	Posted - 2007.11.09 13:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Hikari Nakamuru Originally by: Sebastian Thor If space in EVE was always black, and more realistic physics were used (i.e., the ship never really changed orientation, just direction), wouldn't the game kind of ... suck? No. You obviously don't understand what true freedom of movement, inertia, and orientation would mean. Watch some Babylon 5 episodes with star fury fighter combat. The fighters will be flying in one direction and pop a thruster to spin around to face backwards while still maintaining their forward momentum and fire at whatever is following them. Something like that however would require a complete redesign of turrets, hardpoints, tracking, and fields of fire, etc. Far too much of a change for Eve, but maybe Eve II someday. This whole concept only works with a twitch based game. In an RPG style game like this.. less so. And personally I don't think I'd be having a great deal of fun in a twitch based game. Also, I don't think there ever will be EVE II, just EVE constantly expanding in different directions as it is. --- MOZO
Xanos Blackpaw Amarr The Firestorm Elite	Posted - 2007.11.09 18:55:00 - [12] i love the camera movements....it reminde me of BSG Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi".
Thorek Ironbrow	Posted - 2007.11.09 23:15:00 - [13] Yeah, my friend brought up the argument that there's no air resistance in space, so why do we leave our Thrusters on, just leave them on untill we're going the speed we want, then turn them off and we'll maintain that speed.
Darian Edalth Minmatar Metal Mammoth Industrial	Posted - 2007.11.12 11:59:00 - [14] Edited by: Darian Edalth on 12/11/2007 11:59:51 Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow Yeah, my friend brought up the argument that there's no air resistance in space, so why do we leave our Thrusters on, just leave them on untill we're going the speed we want, then turn them off and we'll maintain that speed. While there is no air in space or resistance there are things to slow you down. Keep in mind planetary bodies, asteroid belts and even the other ships effect your velocity. While it it is true that in a pure void with no outside sources effecting you that a ship would just continue on it's merry way. But when in a solar system there a millions of objects, all slowing you down by virtue of their mass casting the effects of gravity on your ship. Right now, as we speak. Mars is pulling on your hair. It's minor, but it is there. Thrusters would be required to maintain speed, heading and velocity much like they are needed to maintain orbit from time to time. .. perhaps not to degree we see in Eve, but hey.. it's a game. :)
Losmandy VENOM72 Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.12 12:07:00 - [15] ----------------------------------------------------------- "Right now, as we speak. Mars is pulling on your hair. It's minor, but it is there." ----------------------------------------------------------- Does that apply if you are bald?
Asestorian Domination.	Posted - 2007.11.12 12:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Losmandy ----------------------------------------------------------- "Right now, as we speak. Mars is pulling on your hair. It's minor, but it is there." ----------------------------------------------------------- Does that apply if you are bald? Logic would say no. Unless we're talking about other types of hair. And if you're that bald.. then.. I don't really want to think about it too much ¼_¼ --- MOZO
Pirate Tom	Posted - 2007.11.12 17:58:00 - [17] Originally by: Hikari Nakamuru I want them to completely redesign the game to fit my envisioned play style regardless of how many people like it just the way it is can I have your stuff after I pod you?
Mercenary Finder	Posted - 2007.11.12 18:26:00 - [18] Neat


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