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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:29:00 -
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Now here is a post that gives away my complete lack of knowledge in various sectors of the game.
We were lucky enough last night to be visited by MR Tank CEO. Who kindly releived me of my ship and a couple of my corp mates ships as well.
My post is not to moan about my loss but its a question on how does he find us so quickly. I was at one of the planets so not a usual location to look it you are trawling the system. He was there within moments and I was wondering what he uses to locate so quickly?
I am thinking scanner but as I only use mine in a basic way it would be nice to enhance my skills with a little advice.
Born again noob
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:37:00 -
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He uses the force.
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The Mizz
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:39:00 -
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planets are the first thing people run 2. if you were engaging him he might have saw u warp to a planet or it might of been coincidence and he just started looking at each planet. People mainly use the directional scanner to find safe spots usually 5 or 6 au from everything. You do this by burning ur cap then hitting auto pilot an du stop half way at the gate.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.03.02 12:40:00 -
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He uses the force.
Damn! I knew I should of picked up the Jedi mind trick skill when it was offered to me by a small green guy with big ears.
"We are not the noobs you are looking for. Move along!"
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.03.02 13:40:00 -
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Edited by: Pychian Vanervi on 02/03/2004 13:42:32
So was that the extent of the advice, and there was me thinking these forums were a mine of knowledge!!
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.03.02 13:42:00 -
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The art of the scanner is one of the few aspects of Eve that requires some skill (finding safespots is another. Yes it can be done, in about 30mins).
Basically, set range to as long as you can, see if the enemy is at the bottom of the scan list
Then half the scan range. See what planets are no longer being scanned and see if they show up still.
If they do, 1/2 it again and repeat
If at any point they dont, you need to increase the range again and so on
Essentially you eventually get to a point where they are on scanner but if you decrease the range, they drop off, as does 1 and ONLY 1 celestial object. they are at that object.
I can probably find a person at any moon. planet etc in a system within about 60seconds.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.03.02 13:49:00 -
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if you warped away, he only had to look at you to find you 
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Gan Howorth
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Posted - 2004.03.02 14:02:00 -
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Well if you are out in the sticks with no-one else about the map can tell him that you are out in space doing something...like mining. Plus if there is a well known pirate spawn..abandoned station etc...then PC pirates will visit these first to catch you as you NPC farm
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.03.02 14:05:00 -
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You do this by burning ur cap then hitting auto pilot an du stop half way at the gate.
Or just create a bookmark half way through a gate to gate warp, generates a random escape point :)
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Bingo
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Posted - 2004.03.02 14:10:00 -
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You do this by burning ur cap then hitting auto pilot and u stop half way at the gate.
...it is not that difficult. Just open your People and Places window while in warp and hit "add bookmark". No need to do the drain-your-cap thing.
It is better to warp to a MOON than a planet if you are trying to avoid someone and don't have a safespot marked yet. You can easily warp to a moon from your F-11 map (awesome navigation tool that F-11 map). Make a safespot bookmark on the way to the moon  .
If you want to learn how to use the scanner....read up on it, eve-i.com has a guide, then try it.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2004.03.02 14:21:00 -
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if you warped away, he only had to look at you to find you
I didn't warp anywhere he cam in local I stayed where I was a the planet next minute he is there with me jamming my ass!!
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Well if you are out in the sticks with no-one else about the map can tell him that you are out in space doing something...like mining. Plus if there is a well known pirate spawn..abandoned station etc...then PC pirates will visit these first to catch you as you NPC farm
I was not at any of the above which is why I wondered how he found me so fast?
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Kovak
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Posted - 2004.03.02 16:11:00 -
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conceivably he probably used the scanner, he probably just went to the sun did a full range scan and then used directional to narrow it down to a few planets...
warp to each
could probably do it in under a minute
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SYCO
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:02:00 -
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conceivably he probably used the scanner, he probably just went to the sun did a full range scan and then used directional to narrow it down to a few planets...
warp to each
could probably do it in under a minute
heheh the power of the scanner....gotta love it
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:05:00 -
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Of course he might have had a mole in your gang as well...
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:07:00 -
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The art of the scanner is one of the few aspects of Eve that requires some skill (finding safespots is another. Yes it can be done, in about 30mins).
Basically, set range to as long as you can, see if the enemy is at the bottom of the scan list
Then half the scan range. See what planets are no longer being scanned and see if they show up still.
If they do, 1/2 it again and repeat
If at any point they dont, you need to increase the range again and so on
Essentially you eventually get to a point where they are on scanner but if you decrease the range, they drop off, as does 1 and ONLY 1 celestial object. they are at that object.
I can probably find a person at any moon. planet etc in a system within about 60seconds.
For the first time ever Lallante has made a good post.
(though the little smacktalk is still there, cause it isn't doable in 60 seconds because all the ******* asteroids( which takes a long time to scan)).
And yes, safespots are not entirely safe.
30 minutes is often enough to find it.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:18:00 -
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Hint for finding safespots: The directional scanner.
But it is boring, boring, boring. Plus, it's not as accurate as it could be.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:23:00 -
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Hint for finding safespots: The directional scanner.
But it is boring, boring, boring. Plus, it's not as accurate as it could be.
Yep. You need to first find out between which 2 objects the player warped when he made the safespot. This is what makes it hard.
Then it's just to close the target down.
( there are however obviously ways to make a safespot "impossible" to find )
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:36:00 -
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"(though the little smacktalk is still there, cause it isn't doable in 60 seconds because all the ******* asteroids( which takes a long time to scan))."
Nah, the scanner was fixed... 'roids or not, you get whole full-range scan in few seconds now, rocks containers and abandoned Ibis nonwithstanding. \o/
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:41:00 -
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( there are however obviously ways to make a safespot "impossible" to find )
For the unenlightened:
-Press F11 to open your map browser while you are in a system.
-In the constellation view, right click your current system and choose Keep Location. Name it something you won't forget, because it usually doesn't show up in the system menu like most bookmarks.
-Go into People and Places and find your new bookmark. Right click and choose Warp To. The range doesn't matter.
-Your ship will point itself away from the star and warp its max distance (until cap is empty). If you're really paranoid, warp again.
Nobody will ever, ever, ever find you. Until the covert ops frigates. If they work how they're supposed you, you'll be screwed.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.03.02 17:44:00 -
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"Nobody will ever, ever, ever find you."
... I didn't really bother to check, so maybe someone know already... is that bookmark random, or always the same point? :s
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Ifni
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:50:00 -
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i thought there was a limit to the scan range and if u were in a system with a couple of 100+ au warps u couldnt find someone?
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Hematic
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Posted - 2004.03.02 20:45:00 -
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i thought there was a limit to the scan range and if u were in a system with a couple of 100+ au warps u couldnt find someone?
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There is. On the big systems you may have to warp to an object on the other side of the universe to complete the scanning.
Also too when you warp to a planet / moon to hide, start moving in a direction. If I don't have a safe spot marked I'll often just warp to moon, double click in space and auto run the mwd and go have a smoke.
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Ada Isdead
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Posted - 2004.03.02 21:01:00 -
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The max range scan is 14.355 AU.
1 AU is 149,597870 km
0.1 AU is 14,959787 km
personally i use F11 and look around at stargates etc to guage the scale of the system relative to the F11 map, and then divied it into chunks that can be scanned so as ti get it all.
It's rare to find a system where everything can be scanned from one place.
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