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Snowcrash Winterheart2
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Posted - 2007.11.09 21:48:00 -
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Just a quick question. Does wine actually do some of the SM3 functions that will be needed for the 'premium' version of Trinity?
It's just I spotted the little SM3 tester app a CCP dev put up and figured for a giggle I'd run it in wine.
It passed. So either it's reporting it does and is just stubs... or is actually doing 'some' of SM3.
Has anyone inside CCP tried feeding Trinity to wine and seen what happens?
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Snowcrash Winterheart2
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Posted - 2007.11.09 21:48:00 -
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Just a quick question. Does wine actually do some of the SM3 functions that will be needed for the 'premium' version of Trinity?
It's just I spotted the little SM3 tester app a CCP dev put up and figured for a giggle I'd run it in wine.
It passed. So either it's reporting it does and is just stubs... or is actually doing 'some' of SM3.
Has anyone inside CCP tried feeding Trinity to wine and seen what happens?
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riru
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Posted - 2007.11.09 22:28:00 -
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No, none of the emulators support SM3 atm. They are working on it and cedega will probably have it ready by Trinity, atleast I hope so. 
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Snowcrash Winterheart2
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Posted - 2007.11.09 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: Snowcrash Winterheart2 on 09/11/2007 23:07:42
 Originally by: riru
No, none of the emulators support SM3 atm. They are working on it and cedega will probably have it ready by Trinity, atleast I hope so.
Interesting, I've found some mentions of Shader Model 3 support in the GLSL extensions (UseGLSL for those doing wine regedits) and some people sending patches in to the wine lists.
So as the devs tester didn't a) fall flat on its face and b) reported 'A-Ok'... I wonder if it's "kinda in there" as stubs reporting true to queries; I'll grab the latest git and take a poke at it see what exactly its doing.
ETA: I couldn't care less if Transgaming get it in Cegeda; I've had dealings with that company as a paying punter. Never again.
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SirMolly
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Posted - 2007.11.09 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: riru
No, none of the emulators support SM3 atm. They are working on it and cedega will probably have it ready by Trinity, atleast I hope so.
WINE is not an emulator. 
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ElfeGER
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.09 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: riru
No, none of the emulators support SM3 atm. They are working on it and cedega will probably have it ready by Trinity, atleast I hope so.
wine converts shaders when they are created to glsl this process doesn't depend on a shader lvl so it basicly supports sm3
ofc there might be some glitches but that is to be seen when they release the windows version
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Snowcrash Winterheart2
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Posted - 2007.11.10 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: El***ER
Originally by: riru
No, none of the emulators support SM3 atm. They are working on it and cedega will probably have it ready by Trinity, atleast I hope so.
wine converts shaders when they are created to glsl this process doesn't depend on a shader lvl so it basicly supports sm3
ofc there might be some glitches but that is to be seen when they release the windows version
Right, so we've just gone "none of the interpreters have SM3 support" to "might work in wine with some weirdness". Excellent. Now to figure out how to work around BITS :)
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.11.12 17:38:00 -
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The testing app did not test the drivers/directx/wine/opengl.
It tested the Shader Model supported by your Graphics card only. So your graphics card supports the needed functionality but your OS (etc) may not.
CCP Lingorm
CCP Quality Assurance
QA Engineering Team Leader
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riru
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Posted - 2007.11.13 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: SirMolly
Originally by: riru
No, none of the emulators support SM3 atm. They are working on it and cedega will probably have it ready by Trinity, atleast I hope so.
WINE is not an emulator.
Ah yes ofcourse, I totally forgot  Thanks for reminding me
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Snowcrash Winterheart2
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Posted - 2007.11.13 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lingorm
The testing app did not test the drivers/directx/wine/opengl.
It tested the Shader Model supported by your Graphics card only. So your graphics card supports the needed functionality but your OS (etc) may not.
Interesting. At least it shows wine is puting the right data around (give it 10min and a GF4 owner will appear saying it said the same). I'm rather looking forward to this overhaul's release just to see how big a bang I can make with it :)
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Valeo Galaem
New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit
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Posted - 2007.11.14 08:19:00 -
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At the moment Trinity doesn't work in Wine yet (unless this changed since the week end. I'm not much for debugging (yet) but the problem seems to stem from an unsupported call from the python libraries. A Dev did mention that there were some new features in Trinity that were not supported by Wine at the time (forgot the specifics, its on the forums somewhere) so people are aware of it. I hope support for it happens soon as the Cedega client still blows up on me...
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Snowcrash Winterheart2
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.14 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Valeo Galaem
At the moment Trinity doesn't work in Wine yet (unless this changed since the week end. I'm not much for debugging (yet) but the problem seems to stem from an unsupported call from the python libraries. A Dev did mention that there were some new features in Trinity that were not supported by Wine at the time (forgot the specifics, its on the forums somewhere) so people are aware of it. I hope support for it happens soon as the Cedega client still blows up on me...
That'll be the AI/O routines I'm guessing. Known about and fully supported in wine. You do, however need to compile wine from source and modify a chunk of code (one line, one word changing from FALSE to TRUE). ./configure && make && sudo make install jobs's a good'un. Apparently :)
So if you're running, for example, the usual Ubuntu .deb file, it won't work. And as you can't get to the Cegeda source.... same again.
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Posted - 2007.11.14 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Snowcrash Winterheart2
... compile wine from source and modify a chunk of code (one line, one word changing from FALSE to TRUE). ./configure && make && sudo make install ...
El***ER's Trinity fix - "... changing the dlls/kernel32/sync.c BindIOCompletionCallback return value to TRUE fixes the freeze/crash when the login screen appears"
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