Originally by: Ian Blackclover

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wow, i guess i need to make this clear....im not saying goons are racist first. thats just crazy, it is just that people that are in a group are supposed to represent ideals and such, but whatever, i guess i shouldnt have gone there. second, i could really care less who likes who, but, the reason i play a f'n video game is to give some sort of mental relief from the ignorance of the real world. and it amazes me to no end how people will still bring in their views of real world into a video game.

so flame me all you want, im just saying that it was an unecessary bs comment. i dont care what anyone thinks of me for this really, its just about can you hate me cause im gallente?

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Originally by: Pitt Bull

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See, this is bull... I can judge anyone however I please, in my personal tastes.

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Originally by: Pitt Bull

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To say someone with black skin is the same as someone with white skin is rediculous.

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Originally by: Moghydin

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Originally by: Cpt Fina

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The racist however thinks some appearances and cultures are reasons not to treat a person as an equal.

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This argument is more complicated than it seems. I believe appearances are equal, cultures are not. This doesn't make me a racist. In any case this discussion is beyond the scope of internet game forum.

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Originally by: Moe Sczyzlak

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Being BoB I'm not much of a goon-lover as you might understand.
HOWEVER: To blame an alliance of 5000 ppl based on what 2 people are saying in a chat strikes me as less thought through.

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Originally by: Moe Sczyzlak

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Edited by: Moe Sczyzlak on 10/11/2007 11:30:16

Originally by: Cpt Fina

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Originally by: Moe Sczyzlak

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Being BoB I'm not much of a goon-lover as you might understand.
HOWEVER: To blame an alliance of 5000 ppl based on what 2 people are saying in a chat strikes me as less thought through.

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If thereÆs no repercussions from the leaders in a corp/alliance it does reflect on their organisation as a whole. Nobody is forcing anyone to join a corp or an alliance.

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True but I think it's a lot to ask of said leaders to keep track of everything their members say in all the various chats. Most alliance leaders are only in the game to have fun. Just like the rest or us.
If an alliance leader were to kick every member who happens to spew out a comment that could be considered racist in these insanelly PC times, that alliance would die very soon.

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Originally by: Moe Sczyzlak

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That said I do have the impression that goons contain an unusually large number of short-sited, intolerant ape-men.

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This is correct.
Some cultures that run around killing their new born babies just cause they are girls or killing their teenagers cause they date people of another culture ARE inferior. That's not even a matter of opinion. It's fact, and have nothing to do with racism.

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Originally by: Fester Addams

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Originally by: Cpt Fina

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Originally by: Moe Sczyzlak

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This is correct.
Some cultures that run around killing their new born babies just cause they are girls or killing their teenagers cause they date people of another culture ARE inferior. That's not even a matter of opinion. It's fact, and have nothing to do with racism.

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That is your opinion. Not a fact.

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One of the biggest problems when dealing with a culture that is not your own is that you dont know much about them.
This meens you are easilly tricked into believing that rare occurances in that culture are common occurances due to propaganda spread round by people with alterior motives.

I meen look at your own country and try to find a not so flattering aspect, next think how a person wanting to give your culture a bad rep could abuse that.

Simple wasnt it.

To you it would be abvious its only a few nutcases that are doing it but to a person who do not understand your culture, what is acceptable and what is not and so on may easilly be fooled into thinking this is a common and accepted behaviour.

This is what is called generalization and is one of the most frequent reasons for racism.

Use your brain and get the facts, try to look past propaganda and always look at who is giving you the info.
If for example a white supremasist is telling you that black people kidnap and sell white babies to brothels in the middle east its rather simple to figure out that he is not trustworthy but not all sources are as easy to weigh.

To the OP.
If you feel offended then petition it, that is alot better than starting a thread about it.

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Originally by: Cpt Fina

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Originally by: Fester Addams

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Originally by: Cpt Fina

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Originally by: Moe Sczyzlak

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This is correct.
Some cultures that run around killing their new born babies just cause they are girls or killing their teenagers cause they date people of another culture ARE inferior. That's not even a matter of opinion. It's fact, and have nothing to do with racism.

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That is your opinion. Not a fact.

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One of the biggest problems when dealing with a culture that is not your own is that you dont know much about them.
This meens you are easilly tricked into believing that rare occurances in that culture are common occurances due to propaganda spread round by people with alterior motives.

I meen look at your own country and try to find a not so flattering aspect, next think how a person wanting to give your culture a bad rep could abuse that.

Simple wasnt it.

To you it would be abvious its only a few nutcases that are doing it but to a person who do not understand your culture, what is acceptable and what is not and so on may easilly be fooled into thinking this is a common and accepted behaviour.

This is what is called generalization and is one of the most frequent reasons for racism.

Use your brain and get the facts, try to look past propaganda and always look at who is giving you the info.
If for example a white supremasist is telling you that black people kidnap and sell white babies to brothels in the middle east its rather simple to figure out that he is not trustworthy but not all sources are as easy to weigh.

To the OP.
If you feel offended then petition it, that is alot better than starting a thread about it.

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Did you inted to quote Moe Sczyzlak or me? If you meant the post to be an answer to anything I've written then I'd like you to either re-read what I've said in this thread or alter your post.
If it was directed towards Moe Sczyzlak you should change the quotation asap.

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Originally by: Basil Brush

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Wrong. That IS fact

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Originally by: Basil Brush

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EDIT: oops wrong character. I am moe though, to clarify. I usually consider myself a tolerant and open-minded person. As you can see however I get winded up by those "cultures" in my country that considers it the right thing to do to kill their teenage daughters because they've been dating an indigonous guy. Been happening a few times the last year or so and allthough I realise those murders are their culture drawn to an extreme I still consider them worth less than roadkill. Why should I be tolerant towards a culture that is that intolerant to mine?

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Originally by: Basil Brush

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They come here and are given shelter from whatever war they are fleeing from and still they hold us in such contempt they deem it punishable by DEATH to associate with the local population. I can not express the disgust I feel for those "people"

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