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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.02 23:37:00 -
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Recently, Reikoku, DSIN and potentially some other members of c0d lost a great deal of isk due to an exploiter utilising a bug in the game.
That exploiter is now being named by myself.
I hope you all put the following person to -10 on your standings.
ASENTIA
Currently she has been taken on by a small corp named Nocturnal Supremacy set up by an ex biomass cartel member.
At first, we were given the name IGNUZ. Whether this is the alt of Asentia or not, I cannot confirm this. Needless to say, there must have been a reason we were given this name in the first place.
IGNUZ is still with the Cho'arrim Coalition.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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Raudka
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Posted - 2004.03.02 23:40:00 -
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Can't imagine what the exploit was? Stealing from all hangars?
I knew I should have registered "named and shamed"(tm) 
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Schattenklinge
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:11:00 -
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welcome on the kos list db  .
(personal , not cho arim . i simply hate people that canŠt even shut up , even when told so by ther superiors .)
and no , i am no alt and might not have your "skills" but you had it comming anyway .
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Psuedo Angel
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:15:00 -
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In before the lock.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:18:00 -
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welcome on the kos list db .
(personal , not cho arim . i simply hate people that canŠt even shut up , even when told so by ther superiors .)
and no , i am no alt and might not have your "skills" but you had it comming anyway .
That's interesting, I've heard that alot from cho'arrim members today.
Why don't you just declare war and be done with it.
It will be very interesting to see don't you think?
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 03/03/2004 00:32:34
Edited by: Maya Rkell on 03/03/2004 00:26:23
I thought that...never mind.
Y'know, I thought for a moment that that war was off. Musta blinked at the wrong time :)
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Entroph
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:32:00 -
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Shut the hell up Preacher. Stop shouting little challenges behind your army of friends. You had no right to post that. There are many words to describe you that I cannot post on a public forum, so I'll leave it to your imagination.
You know very well that Cho'Arrim don't have the power to declare war on RKK. You know very well that RKK has friends that will support them in a war against Cho'Arrim. That is the only reason you've been so daring this whole time.
You wanted a small corp to take out all your pent up anger on, but whatever you want to believe yourself, I don't care.
I'm fine with RKK as a corp, but to all friends of DB Preacher, I hope you know her as well as you think you do. This thread was totally out of order. And btw I believe it's against CCP policy to launch personal attacks on people. Does this count?
Sleep well tonight Preacher, you've ruined our long time friends time in eve.
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Darwin
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:38:00 -
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Edited by: Darwin on 03/03/2004 00:41:09
Edited by: Darwin on 03/03/2004 00:40:51
What was the Bug? And if So Why does this joker still have a Account? If he used a Bug to steal from you he should be banned
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:44:00 -
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Shut the hell up Preacher. Stop shouting little challenges behind your army of friends. You had no right to post that. There are many words to describe you that I cannot post on a public forum, so I'll leave it to your imagination.
You know very well that Cho'Arrim don't have the power to declare war on RKK. You know very well that RKK has friends that will support them in a war against Cho'Arrim. That is the only reason you've been so daring this whole time.
You wanted a small corp to take out all your pent up anger on, but whatever you want to believe yourself, I don't care.
I'm fine with RKK as a corp, but to all friends of DB Preacher, I hope you know her as well as you think you do. This thread was totally out of order. And btw I believe it's against CCP policy to launch personal attacks on people. Does this count?
Sleep well tonight Preacher, you've ruined our long time friends time in eve.
The reason I have been daring is because I don't believe exploiters who try to destroy the fun in the game for others have any place in this game.
I didn't ask for anyone to speak up on reikoku's nor my behalf. Nor did I expect it. Those corps and people within eve who have backed this action because they believe it was the right thing to do.
I have no pent up anger. If that were the case then I would be a pirater ganking easy targets.
I have no idea how you can possibly defend Asentia/Ignuz, but make NO MISTAKES ABOUT IT.
THIS EXPLOITER BROUGHT THIS UPON THEMSELVES.
I didn't go and for our corp to be robbed of over a hundred million isk of minerals by a friend.
And yes, I will sleep extremely well tonight, knowing that I have made other small corps like [e x o d u s], Venture Corp and Thundercats safe from a greedy thief.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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Entroph
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:44:00 -
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Recently, Reikoku, DSIN and potentially some other members of c0d lost a great deal of isk due to an exploiter utilising a bug in the game.
Everyone that lost isk who chose to be were compensated for their loss. DSIN received 200 million isk from Asentia's personal account. The other members of the c0d "potentially lost a great deal of isk" due to DSIN. It was while DSIN were in command of the station that the other corps lost large quantities of ore. Why not try to uncover the DSIN character who took the ore? Well? Perhaps because DSIN have friends too?
I investigated within my corp for days straight, hardly sleeping throughout the whole incident. I attempted to contact CCP to get to the bottom of everything. And other members of my corp tried to reason with RKK through the entire event.
What did you do Preacher? Run out Gung Ho with guns blaring? Point fingers and scream allegations? You did NOTHING to try to get to the bottom of this situation. All you wanted from the start was for Cho'Arrim to take a fall.
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:45:00 -
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You wanted a small corp to take out all your pent up anger on
Nah DB pods us all the time to vent anger. :(
Bosie.
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KamiCrazy
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:46:00 -
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I hate to say this to you entroph but RKK has friends because we're true to our integrity and we've lent a hand and vice versa, it isn't about hiding behind anyone's backs, we are self sufficient and if any of our friends offer help its because they are willing not because they are obligated to.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:51:00 -
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What did you do Preacher? Run out Gung Ho with guns blaring? Point fingers and scream allegations? You did NOTHING to try to get to the bottom of this situation. All you wanted from the start was for Cho'Arrim to take a fall.
I'll quote what I said earlier today.
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Mainly due to the amazing efforts of entroph over the past few days, the matter between Cho'arrim, Reikoku and Deathstar International is fully resolved.
The matter between myself and the exploiter will never be resolved. Anyone who exploits in order to steal from other players in the game have NO right to be in the game in any form.
That is taken from the other thread. It has been there all day.
My grief was never with cho'arrim. It's your corp members who have been threatening me all day as anyone in the boards can see for themselves.
My grief is purely and simply with the exploiter.
Always has been.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Entroph
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:54:00 -
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I want to believe that Kami, and I know it seems logical. But I just can't understand why DB would do something so striking and damaging. I understand that what asentia did was wrong, but she tried to repay her sin as well she could.
It was just out of order to present her name and leave her to the will of hundreds of eve players. Everyone makes mistakes. Do 2nd chances not exist in the world of RKK? And posting Ignuz's name?
He had nothing to do with this whatsoever. We gave you one person, now you need to bring a second person down with her? I implore you not to take it any further than you already have. What's next? Tainting my name?
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Entroph
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:55:00 -
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And if your grief is not with cho'arrim why did you just openly invite us to declare war on you in response to Schatten's post?
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.03.03 01:02:00 -
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Everyone that lost isk who chose to be were compensated for their loss. DSIN received 200 million isk from Asentia's personal account. The other members of the c0d "potentially lost a great deal of isk" due to DSIN. It was while DSIN were in command of the station that the other corps lost large quantities of ore. Why not try to uncover the DSIN character who took the ore? Well? Perhaps because DSIN have friends too?
Dude, really, do I have to say it again, Ive already spoken to the corps that the ore came from.
We reproduced the exploit to see if it was possible which is why we took the station in the first place, we then immediatly contacted a member of polaris to inform them, who then got a GM on it. The ore shall be returned to the corp it was taken from, Ive already sorted this with the corp and my CEO has with the GM, how about talkin to the corp that it happened to first?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.03 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 03/03/2004 01:05:55
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And if your grief is not with cho'arrim why did you just openly invite us to declare war on you in response to Schatten's post?
I've had nothing but death threats from cho'arrim all day and to be honest, my patience is wearing quite thin.
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But I just can't understand why DB would do something so striking and damaging.
As I said in the other thread:
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You know something, I wasn't going to say anything else, because Galavet personally told me to drop the situation.
And that's the truth of the matter. I would have dropped it. I keep my word you see. But Cho'arrim members are just constantly pushing for more today.
Sandcrawler's post basically accused Reikoku of being liars. I won't stand for that from no-one.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
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Lomithrandra
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Posted - 2004.03.03 01:12:00 -
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Do not post about bugs and exploits.
Bugs and exploits should be reported through the proper method by filing a report for our Quality Assurance department.
You can find the form here: http://myeve.eve-online.com/bugreporting.asp
Discussions about unverified problems in the game can cause unnecessary panic in the community. When there is an issue the community needs to be aware of, we will make an official statement about it.
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Entroph
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Posted - 2004.03.03 01:19:00 -
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Toulak: If you contacted a GM about the issue why didn't you have said GM look over the records at the station when it was in Cho'Arrim control? That would have been substantial evidence and would have proven the situation either way. And if indeed the situation is as you say it is, then I apologise for my accusations.
I myself contacted a GM through email, and got a "We can't help you in this matter" reply. So don't say that Cho'Arrim didn't try to get to the bottom of things, not that you did or would.
Preacher: You have to understand that even though all you see Asentia as is an exploiter and a thief, the older members of Cho'Arrim have known her for months and have developed a close relationship with her. You recieved 2 seperate "death threats" as you call them. One from Ignuz, for which he apologized, and one from Schattenklinge.
I also wanted to let the situation lie as it was, but I do not have ultimate power in Cho'Arrim. We operate under a council system, and all members have equal say. Sandcrawler is another council member who felt his opinion should be acknowledged.
Finally, Sandcrawler is not calling RKK liars. He is toying with an idea that I myself was considering for a long time. That the ore disappeared due to a bug. I've been talking with members of the alliance and some have experienced a loss of some items or units of ore from the refinery station. It may be a bug that is activated when the station shifts ownership.
Again that is just a theory, an unproven and pretty much unfounded theory. I would not call RKK liars, and I don't think anyone in my corp would either. Just as I see no reason for us to steal from you, I see no reason for you to lie to us. It makes no sense either way.
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