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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Eye of God
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Posted - 2007.11.11 23:51:00 -
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"Conservatively," Goodwin muses, scratching his chin, "it'll get 60 miles to the gallon. With 2,000 foot-pounds of torque. You'll be able to smoke the tires. And it's going to be superefficient."
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.12 00:00:00 -
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Bio-diesel, fuel efficient, 60mpg Hummer? Thats amazing 
If the price tag wasn't some $28,000 ON TOP of the cost of the car, I'd be all over one of those babies...
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Eye of God
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Posted - 2007.11.12 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Bio-diesel, fuel efficient, 60mpg Hummer? Thats amazing
If the price tag wasn't some $28,000 ON TOP of the cost of the car, I'd be all over one of those babies...
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Sister Impotentata
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.12 00:07:00 -
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As much as I hate Hummers (cap H not small h), this is a fantastic application. However there's got to be a huge mistranslation somewhere. The turbine doesn't just "roar into action for a few seconds." You can do that, but it's a huge waste of energy to fight inertia. A turbine in that application should be running continuously, providing a constant charge to the capacitor. What this fellow has is a Tarminic-style cap battery that would be more effectively replaced by a Power Diagnostic Unit. This Hybrid-Hummer is, in effect, still a Hummer: The most horrible waste of hybrid technology available.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.12 00:07:00 -
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Heh, thats more like it. Slap one of those on an old Land Rover or something and you have a seriously cheap version 
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ry ry
StateCorp
The State
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Posted - 2007.11.12 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sister Impotentata
As much as I hate Hummers (cap H not small h), this is a fantastic application. However there's got to be a huge mistranslation somewhere. The turbine doesn't just "roar into action for a few seconds." You can do that, but it's a huge waste of energy to fight inertia. A turbine in that application should be running continuously, providing a constant charge to the capacitor. What this fellow has is a Tarminic-style cap battery that would be more effectively replaced by a Power Diagnostic Unit. This Hybrid-Hummer is, in effect, still a Hummer: The most horrible waste of hybrid technology available.
hummer needs nanofibres.
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Suze'Rain
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.12 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Heh, thats more like it. Slap one of those on an old Land Rover or something and you have a seriously cheap version
except that a old landie will run happpily on meths, diesel, petrol, or chip fat, unlike a hummer... 
prettier too...
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.12 15:27:00 -
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a regular diesel engine, together with some extra basic modifications like extra fuel filters, can run on used chip oil.
in fact, the diesel engines were produced a century ago with this in mind.
the only problem of the diesel engines is the fact that the fuel needs pre-heating, if you're in a cold environment, due to the low volatility of some fuels.
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.11.12 16:33:00 -
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They still look like a Tonka truck.
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Voodoo'sMother
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Posted - 2007.11.12 21:54:00 -
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A silly vehicle for silly american's
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Headcrabs
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Posted - 2007.11.13 01:12:00 -
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well this was tried many years ago to make turbine cars, at the time they actually had a transmittion which converted down the turbine for 15k to drive speed. However this car used so much fuel it wasnt funny. The reason for this is that the turbine could not deliver power immediately so they just made a bigger turbine, which ate more gas.
Now if my thermo lectures are correct a Renkine cycle kicks out a ~35% efficiency and diesel kicks out ~60%. however, diesel gets a kick in the nuts in that there is a huge drop in efficiency due to all those neat mechanical properties.
So how are we getting ahead? Simple, the same way a little toyota gets better mileage than a dodge. The engine is not oversized and therefore does not waste energy.
efficiancy = (Work)/(energy used)
If we want to move 60 miles, that would be a work, if you use more energy than it would actually take to minimally move those miles you are putting more energy in than you need, efficiency drops even with you getting 60% conversion of gas to theoretical work.
You still haven't answered the question why is this more efficient at half the efficiency? Well if you can deliver what you need without oversizeing the engine for acceleration and 'power on demand' than you can use the absolute minimum of energy. Use a capacitor to store up that extra say 2% of power(over cruising needs) and use it instead of generally useing 50% more.
Yay for thermo... im so going to fail that class, cycles are kicking my ass.
Props- Thermodynamics an engineering approach Yunus A Cengel, sixth edition 511, 572
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.11.13 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ademaro Imre
Originally by: Patch86
Bio-diesel, fuel efficient, 60mpg Hummer? Thats amazing
If the price tag wasn't some $28,000 ON TOP of the cost of the car, I'd be all over one of those babies...
its a $5,000 bolt on kit basically.
Yeah, but with current gas prices and no hint of price decreases in the near future, it wouldn't take you long to run up a $5000 gas bill...
Originally by: Voodoo'sMother
A silly vehicle for silly american's
Pretty much, and that's coming from an American too. Every time I see one of these on the road it makes me sad.
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Sister Impotentata
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.13 04:27:00 -
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Edited by: Sister Impotentata on 13/11/2007 04:32:36
Originally by: Lithalnas
Yay for thermo... im so going to fail that class,
Thermo's not so bad. Well, yes it is. But if it's just a class and not your degree, all you need to worry about remembering is how to apply the second law to everything. Actually, "Real World Applications of the Second Law" should be two semesters unto itself.
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Voodoo'sMother
A silly vehicle for silly american's
Pretty much, and that's coming from an American too. Every time I see one of these on the road it makes me sad.
So true. I was perusing a backissue of Geographic the other day and came upon a quote by a broad in Atlanta:
Originally by: Broad in Atlanta
I love my Hummer. I like knowing that everything I bump into, I win.
Wrong on so many levels. It's not bumping we need to nerf, it's our broads.
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Originally by: Hostess
Deconstructing the Twinkie is like trying to deconstruct the universe.
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Multras
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.13 08:12:00 -
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Drive the orginal one, and actually use it, or dont get one. Those new ones are ugly as **** and just pointless. If you go off roading or w/e and got the money for an orignial more power to ya.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.13 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas
however, diesel gets a kick in the nuts in that there is a huge drop in efficiency due to all those neat mechanical properties.
while its true that the fuel type and weight of the engine contribute for the fact that the diesel engien is not that efficient, it is still at least 10 to 15% more efficient than an equall gas engine.
it is also true that diesel fuel, altho with less calorific value than the gasoline per kg, it has more 15% energy per volume due to its density.
all in all, the diesel engine is a very capable engine with good efficiency, wich only drawbacks are its weight, usage of a heavier fuel and is a bit iffy if working on cold weather, wich requires pre-heating the engine first.
pros? more efficient, fuel is cheaper, it can run pratically on anything bar water with a few modifications (old, indirect injection engines work better here), and not so pollutant as you might thing (the black soot is caused due to worn injectors or faulty management sytstem).
More can be read about it here (from where I took some of the data).
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DarkMatter
Sintered Sanity
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Posted - 2007.11.13 15:49:00 -
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Pretty much, and that's coming from an American too. Every time I see one of these on the road it makes me sad.
That's probably because you're a whiney liberal...
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2007.11.13 20:56:00 -
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Running faster to stay still.
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Rialtor
Amarr
Yarrrateers
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Voodoo'sMother
A silly vehicle for silly american's
Bah I take it you're European, the home of the Lamborghini and Ferrari. So what if Americans like to plow down trees in their cars in their spare time :P -- To each his own. Every place has their of frivolous luxury items, we are all silly.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: DarkMatter
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Pretty much, and that's coming from an American too. Every time I see one of these on the road it makes me sad.
That's probably because you're a whiney liberal...
While I am a whiney liberal...
I just don't see any point for these vehicles to exist. They have incredibly poor gas mileage, rarely if ever actually go offroad, and increase the risk of injury in an accident (not for the hummer driver obviously, but whatever they hit). They just seem like pointless vehicles that "let soccer moms feel like rock stars.*" In addition, it's poor gas mileage is partially responsible for increased gas prices that I have to pay, and I really don't feel like paying for someone else to feel like a rock star.
*Quote from Hummer Ad
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2007.11.13 21:26:00 -
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Look on the bright side, half the people driving them MEWed or HELOCed the **** out of their house to afford the privilege (and the boat it's pulling) and now they're treading water. The end of the current bout of ***** spread compression will be the icing on the cake. Poetic justice. Not that the Prius fad is much better, but that won't stop the really dumb ones trying to get the credit.
Schadenfreude? Don't mind if I do!
Just buy a damn sedan and run it into the ground, or walk.
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Alias11
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.13 22:49:00 -
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The Hummer is a terrible car not because it's a guzzler but because it's a terrible car. I'd rather have a Wrangler in nearly every instance.
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Dirtee Girl
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.11.19 20:44:00 -
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the hummer is the ultimate redneck parade float
sorry but for the same price you can get so much more car but then again i can see why the hummer is so popular as many people use them for the daily commute thru the rugged back roads over mountains on the way to work right...
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Micheal Dietrich
Cynical Cartel
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Posted - 2007.11.19 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dirtee Girl
the hummer is the ultimate redneck parade float
Leave Rednecks out of this. That vehicle serves absolutely no purpose on a ranch or farm.
Hummers are 4x4's that never see dirt and are driven by rich and fancy folk who want to show of their rich and fancyness.
They're ugly and they have no real purpose. Same goes for the truck.
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