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Nicho Void
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Posted - 2007.11.15 18:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Roy Batty68
Originally by: Curzon Dax
Proposed WoWification
No thanks. Find a different game. Quit trying to change this one into something it's not.
If you think that being allowed to request combat with another person in high sec is a WoWification, then you need to get a ******* clue.
At no point in this argument has the removal of low-sec and null-sec PvP been suggested. The only outcome this suggestion could have is a new, different form of combat.
Why do you fear this? Because you think there will be an exodus to empire? As Curzon (and CCP) have pointed out, the majority of players already live in highsec. And just to reiterate Curzon's point: open your map and take a look. Not liking what you see isn't going to change it any. The fact is that players are tired of blob/gank/camp/lag warfare. We want something else. Until that happens, you will continue to see the majority of players staying in highsec.
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Nicho Void
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Posted - 2007.11.15 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Roy Batty68
You defeat your own argument. If hisec is so appealing that so many are living there, than it certainly isn't the area of the game that needs any improvement.
Curzon's suggestion is basically PvP flagging. Basically the opposite of what Eve has always been about. It speaks volumes about how much Eve has degraded (or at least these forums) in the last year that he hasn't had the forum equivalent of being run out on a rail for suggesting such a thing.
I disagree. Eve is PvP. So how is it against the core of Eve to allow another form of PvP?
Originally by: Roy Batty68
If hisec has so much of the player base as he is arguing, than the reasons for this need to be addressed. Not add things to hisec that will exacerbate that problem even more.
Exacerbate how? The mechanics already exist for this type of encounter to occur. All Curzon would like is a simpler way to do it.
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Nicho Void
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.15 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Roy Batty68
Originally by: Curzon Dax
I want highsec PvP on demand. I want lagless, gankless, small scale fights in highsec.
Thread done.
Meaning you finally get it? Or that you've somehow twisted the above quote to serve your argument?
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Nicho Void
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.15 21:34:00 -
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Edited by: Nicho Void on 15/11/2007 21:36:16
Originally by: Roy Batty68
Originally by: Nicho Void
Originally by: Roy Batty68
Originally by: Curzon Dax
I want highsec PvP on demand. I want lagless, gankless, small scale fights in highsec.
Thread done.
Meaning you finally get it? Or that you've somehow twisted the above quote to serve your argument?
Meaning he finally admits he wants a carebear pvp switch.
- Wee.. turn on my pvp (duel) flag and fight this guy.
- Wee.. turn my pvp flag off again and now right back to safety.
Basically cake and eat it too. Whats the point of lowsec and 0.0 if you can get stupid rich in highsec and get your pvp thrills as well with little to no risk?
And that's what this all comes down to. Risk avoidance. Having everything under control. Manipulating game mechanics until it resembles his version of "fair", the rest of the game be damned.
Roy, the only way this will ever change is if lowsec and 0.0 have a tangible reward higher than that of highsec. Flying my ass into a lowsec blob gankfest for a possible reward that's less then what I would make mining veld makes no sense. It's called opportunity cost.
EDIT: And for the record, I am not a high sec carebear. I lose more myrmidons in a week then most people lose in a month. I rat in 0.0 because that is where the money is at for me. I do this because I have to, because the alternative options suck and there's nothing I can do about it.
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