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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.15 08:32:00 -
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Oveur said in his Fanfest presentation that EVE-Voice will be actually FREE?! If so, sorry for the bad words lately .. I lub j00 if you really gonna do it! 
I might even stop playing "other games" 
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.11.15 08:33:00 -
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yes it is free.
and a dev stated that it will be activated for everyone automatically with the next expansion.
not like it wasn't free already :P Official fanboy of jenny< pink supporter! looking to work in the art department with CCP, 3 years and counting. http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Dropthi |

Golden Helmet
Caldari Finite Horizon Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:01:00 -
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I think one of the devs stated that it's only free until it's working properly. Once it works as good as it should, you'll have to pay for it. I might be wrong though, it was a while ago and my memory sucks.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:04:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 15/11/2007 09:04:15 Edited by: MotherMoon on 15/11/2007 09:04:01
Originally by: Golden Helmet I think one of the devs stated that it's only free until it's working properly. Once it works as good as it should, you'll have to pay for it. I might be wrong though, it was a while ago and my memory sucks.
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watch eve tv's fanfest coverage where in HUGE 10 foot letters it says...
"FREE"
don't mislead the forum goers, that is the reason some people STILL think the graphic update is vista only... Official fanboy of jenny< pink supporter! looking to work in the art department with CCP, 3 years and counting. http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Dropthi |

RaTTuS
BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:06:00 -
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free for ever - cannot find the post now -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve [Now Verified] & RaTTuS Home
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Golden Helmet
Caldari Finite Horizon Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 15/11/2007 09:04:15 Edited by: MotherMoon on 15/11/2007 09:04:01
Originally by: Golden Helmet I think one of the devs stated that it's only free until it's working properly. Once it works as good as it should, you'll have to pay for it. I might be wrong though, it was a while ago and my memory sucks.
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watch eve tv's fanfest coverage where in HUGE 10 foot letters it says...
"FREE"
don't mislead the forum goers, that is the reason some people STILL think the graphic update is vista only...
I haven't watched the fanfest videos, so I apologize. Please don't tar and feather me
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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Forum Moderator

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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Golden Helmet
Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 15/11/2007 09:04:15 Edited by: MotherMoon on 15/11/2007 09:04:01
Originally by: Golden Helmet I think one of the devs stated that it's only free until it's working properly. Once it works as good as it should, you'll have to pay for it. I might be wrong though, it was a while ago and my memory sucks.
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watch eve tv's fanfest coverage where in HUGE 10 foot letters it says...
"FREE"
don't mislead the forum goers, that is the reason some people STILL think the graphic update is vista only...
I haven't watched the fanfest videos, so I apologize. Please don't tar and feather me
/me gets tar and feathers :)
yeh it was confirmed at Fan Fest to be completly free and also going to be more heavily intergrated into the fleet setup, its looking really nice. - Thanks Hutch. ____
forum rules | [email protected]
ôWar is not the dreadful end to all things as mankind fears. Conflict brings balance to nature as it adapts, mutates, and transforms itself into something stronger than before. Mankind is the master of nature because we can choose those mutations on our own accord. We can accelerate the inevitable dominance of a species. Through war, we can make ourselves stronger at the time and place of our choosing. War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine.ö - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum, excerpt from a commencement speech to Paladin graduates of the Imperial Academy, 23215 AD |
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:25:00 -
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HAH! And people told me I was doing my daily routine trolling rather than actually delivering REAL info to eve-o community.. BITE MY SHINY AMBULATION ARSE! 
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Hephaesteus
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.15 09:36:00 -
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Works a treat tried with a bud on Sisi and it was very good.
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.15 10:54:00 -
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now it only needs to be standalone, so that it can be used even when you don't have eve running. ---
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Der Komissar
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Posted - 2007.11.15 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon HAH! And people told me I was doing my daily routine trolling rather than actually delivering REAL info to eve-o community.. BITE MY SHINY AMBULATION ARSE! 
I heard you've got a whole lotta rosie to bite 
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Jose Quevo
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.11.15 12:12:00 -
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While unnecessary ( thanks to Ventrilo ), FREE always equals NICE, no matter what.
Thanks, CCP. :) ----
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CCP Prism X

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Posted - 2007.11.15 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Prism X on 15/11/2007 12:33:52
Originally by: Jose Quevo While unnecessary ( thanks to Ventrilo ), FREE always equals NICE, no matter what. Thanks, CCP. :)
Surely it can be rather hard to force your ransomee to join your Vent server so you can ransom him properly? 
~ Prism X EvE Quafe-Guzzling Database Developer, Relocating your character to a cozy, giant secure container since 2006. |
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Raife Zetter
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Posted - 2007.11.15 12:37:00 -
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ooo, does that mean, with Eve-Voice you can hail a ship your shooting at / targetting / can see on screen ..?
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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Forum Moderator

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Posted - 2007.11.15 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Raife Zetter ooo, does that mean, with Eve-Voice you can hail a ship your shooting at / targetting / can see on screen ..?
just invite them to a ransoming channel that you have voice activated on :D - Thanks Hutch. ____
forum rules | [email protected]
ôWar is not the dreadful end to all things as mankind fears. Conflict brings balance to nature as it adapts, mutates, and transforms itself into something stronger than before. Mankind is the master of nature because we can choose those mutations on our own accord. We can accelerate the inevitable dominance of a species. Through war, we can make ourselves stronger at the time and place of our choosing. War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine.ö - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum, excerpt from a commencement speech to Paladin graduates of the Imperial Academy, 23215 AD |
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bloomich
Trotter's Independent Traders Co
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Posted - 2007.11.15 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X Edited by: CCP Prism X on 15/11/2007 12:33:52
Originally by: Jose Quevo While unnecessary ( thanks to Ventrilo ), FREE always equals NICE, no matter what. Thanks, CCP. :)
Surely it can be rather hard to force your ransomee to join your Vent server so you can ransom him properly? 
Its more a case for when, say, in a big fleet battle and people crash out, they can at least talk to others to tell them what is going on.
--SIG-- I am aware that my name means reproductive organ in another language, I bought this char for isk with that name without relising that. |
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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Forum Moderator

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Posted - 2007.11.15 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: bloomich
Originally by: CCP Prism X Edited by: CCP Prism X on 15/11/2007 12:33:52
Originally by: Jose Quevo While unnecessary ( thanks to Ventrilo ), FREE always equals NICE, no matter what. Thanks, CCP. :)
Surely it can be rather hard to force your ransomee to join your Vent server so you can ransom him properly? 
Its more a case for when, say, in a big fleet battle and people crash out, they can at least talk to others to tell them what is going on.
in most big fleet battles have been anyone apart from the commander / scourts talking usually get told to shut up, suck it up and deal with it, so surely its no difference what voice coms your on :D - Thanks Hutch. ____
forum rules | [email protected]
ôWar is not the dreadful end to all things as mankind fears. Conflict brings balance to nature as it adapts, mutates, and transforms itself into something stronger than before. Mankind is the master of nature because we can choose those mutations on our own accord. We can accelerate the inevitable dominance of a species. Through war, we can make ourselves stronger at the time and place of our choosing. War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine.ö - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum, excerpt from a commencement speech to Paladin graduates of the Imperial Academy, 23215 AD |
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CCP Nozh

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Posted - 2007.11.15 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon Oveur said in his Fanfest presentation that EVE-Voice will be actually FREE?! If so, sorry for the bad words lately .. I lub j00 if you really gonna do it! 
I might even stop playing "other games" 
It's going to cost double for Amarr and I'm taking away your ability to warp.
Nozh Game Designer CCP Games |
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Ajja 17
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Prism X Edited by: CCP Prism X on 15/11/2007 12:33:52
Originally by: Jose Quevo While unnecessary ( thanks to Ventrilo ), FREE always equals NICE, no matter what. Thanks, CCP. :)
Surely it can be rather hard to force your ransomee to join your Vent server so you can ransom him properly? 
It needs a standalone client to be used in fleets/gangs though :(
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Sky Marshal
Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:08:00 -
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I don't like the idea to make Eve Voice activated by default in the next expansion, this can make some complications with people who can't understand vocal english.
I imagine request at a pirate to shut up and write his ransom ^^
Ok I troll. The real problem is the obligation to be connected to use Eve Voice. In some cases like a fleet battle, this helps to know if I can relog on or if the fleet did a warpout, etc...
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Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Nozh
Originally by: Kuolematon Oveur said in his Fanfest presentation that EVE-Voice will be actually FREE?! If so, sorry for the bad words lately .. I lub j00 if you really gonna do it! 
I might even stop playing "other games" 
It's going to cost double for Amarr and I'm taking away your ability to warp.
oh noes! now i have to open 'boost amarr! we have to pay 2 times nothing for eve voice' whinage threads
Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
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OldWolfe
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:17:00 -
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This kind of things aint fair to Deaf players that I've met (Yes, I'm a deaf player myself) as well as those that cannot speak due to vocal disorder of some sort (Met about a dozen or so).
Those kind of things only serves to isolate Deaf and others even further. Whats wrong with typing? Ive chatted up a storm with so many players and they all type just fine!
If CCP is going to have this free, they should also include Voice to text and text to voice then to make it a all around fair free thing for all players of all aspects of the EVE-online.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kuolematon on 15/11/2007 13:18:17
Originally by: CCP Nozh It's going to cost double for Amarr and I'm taking away your ability to warp.
I assume you found out my signature, eh? *me runs away*
Just don't nerf us any more than you will by naming our marauder by name "Loladin" 
Originally by: Der Komissar I heard you've got a whole lotta rosie to bite 
If I ever gonna find out your *main* .. prepare to be suffocated 
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
in most big fleet battles have been anyone apart from the commander / scourts talking usually get told to shut up, suck it up and deal with it, so surely its no difference what voice coms your on :D
Well if the scouts or commander crash its nice for them to be able to say so on vent. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |
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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Forum Moderator

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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:24:00 -
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i dont quite get why so many people seem to dislike eve voice, one major complaint was that it wasnt free, which is it is now, and when it does become free people seem to complain about it being useless in fleet battles and you need a seperate client.
If eve voice was a seperate client then it could not be intergrated and people would use vent / TS anyways.
Not everyone in eve has access to a TS server, and this i think is a great bonus to eve, dont write it off untill you have tried it with the new fleet interhrattion (which looks like the sex)
Advantages over a stand along clinet
1) its free (TS/vent is never free somone is paying for it, even if its not you) 2) its fully secure (unlike all the stories of TS / Vent getting "hacked") though of course thats as long as you can trust eveyone who you invite to your voice channel 3) you can talk to anyone in eve, you dont have to get somone of TS if you want to do negotioations. 4) if you merging 2 fleets / large gangs or more from different allainces you have to usually decide which TS your on then get one group to move over and then grant them all the correct rights / drag them, with eve voice its all intergrated 5) no additional program to run 6) very high quality, and as far as i rember runs on a different server, so though you wont be able to use it when your out of game, even if your frozen ingame it should work relatively lag free 7) fully intergrated into fleet warfare in the next patch, which will be better than any leadership / command structure you can get with ts 8) nice quality
and thats just some of them off the top of my head
and so far the only disadvantage is that you can use it whilst crashed, which i dont think outweighs all the advantages.
it might not be perfect for fleets if your expecting lots of crashes, but generaly for anything else its much better, including just things like chatting whilst mining, or mission running with a new person who may not know TS details, or for those corps who dont want to / cant afford to run a TS. Alot of stuff happens outside of fleet battles where this is going to really improve things i think, and with the new intergration into fleets i think it even outways its disadvantage.
sorry for the long post i just think that eve voice is being given a hard time when it should not be. - Thanks Hutch. ____
forum rules | [email protected]
ôWar is not the dreadful end to all things as mankind fears. Conflict brings balance to nature as it adapts, mutates, and transforms itself into something stronger than before. Mankind is the master of nature because we can choose those mutations on our own accord. We can accelerate the inevitable dominance of a species. Through war, we can make ourselves stronger at the time and place of our choosing. War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine.ö - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum, excerpt from a commencement speech to Paladin graduates of the Imperial Academy, 23215 AD |
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Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: OldWolfe This kind of things aint fair to Deaf players that I've met (Yes, I'm a deaf player myself) as well as those that cannot speak due to vocal disorder of some sort (Met about a dozen or so).
Those kind of things only serves to isolate Deaf and others even further. Whats wrong with typing? Ive chatted up a storm with so many players and they all type just fine!
If CCP is going to have this free, they should also include Voice to text and text to voice then to make it a all around fair free thing for all players of all aspects of the EVE-online.
i can't really see what is unfair about not having to pay for a service. and to calm you down i really doubt that everything is going to be voice now. most alliances and corps have vent servers anyway and at least from my experience i can tell that pretty much everything is still being communicated by taping anyway and even in fleet situations someone relays orders to fleet chat as some can't run ventrillo/TS for some reason. also i know and fly with a deaf eve player myself and we never had any problems getting the info to him evven in fleets. once you know that he can't join in on vent you can easily use other means without any problem.
we will not isolate you. *hug*
Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 15/11/2007 13:31:18
Originally by: CCP Nozh
Originally by: Kuolematon Oveur said in his Fanfest presentation that EVE-Voice will be actually FREE?! If so, sorry for the bad words lately .. I lub j00 if you really gonna do it! 
I might even stop playing "other games" 
It's going to cost double for Amarr and I'm taking away your ability to warp.
Stop nerfing us Amarr based on Kuolematon because Kuolematon isn't even Amarr! 
He's an "honorary" "member" 
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Ares Lightfeather
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:36:00 -
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Now that sounds like a god idea ! I'm looking forward to try it.
-- Siggie ! Come back here ! --
Originally by: Victor Valka
Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job
Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
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Saladin
Minmatar Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.15 13:51:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 15/11/2007 13:52:14 Edited by: Saladin on 15/11/2007 13:51:17
Originally by: CCP Prism X Edited by: CCP Prism X on 15/11/2007 12:33:52
Originally by: Jose Quevo While unnecessary ( thanks to Ventrilo ), FREE always equals NICE, no matter what. Thanks, CCP. :)
Surely it can be rather hard to force your ransomee to join your Vent server so you can ransom him properly? 
This is really one of the best features of it. Not the ransoming per se, but the ability to talk to anyone in EvE over voice without having to get permission to bring a guest on your TS server (though I am yet to be told 'no'). I've started using it after I got back from the FF, and its been a pleasure to so easily talk to out-of-alliance business partners, people I know in RL who play EvE, or conversing in arabic with fellow egyptians and arabs in the game.
Now when I did activate it, it said that it was a 30 day trial. If the next expansion is more than 30 days away, will I get auto-charged for it or will it just stop working?
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Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
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Posted - 2007.11.15 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Saladin If the next expansion is more than 30 days away, will I get auto-charged for it or will it just stop working?
No, it has always been free. __________________ Galaxy Punks are recruiting, click here for more info |
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