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anarll
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.30 00:18:00 -
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hello,
I need a loan to fund a short station trading operation. I have way to many assets and not enough liquid isk at the moment. To make things as simple as possible I'm going to use two high value items for collateral.
loan lenth: 1 month, with the possibility of lender getting all principle and interest in less than a month.
interest: 4%
collateral: i have 2 revelations in low sec
This is a great opportunity to make a 4% isk on isk in less than a month FULLY COLLATERALIZED
please post on forum if you are interested
thank you |
Derp Durrr
Syrma Technology Order Of The Unforgiving
0
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Posted - 2012.01.30 13:20:00 -
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I am interrested, but what ammount of isk are you looking for? can't find it in your post. pls send me a mail or reply to this thread so we can work something out. |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
359
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Posted - 2012.01.30 14:31:00 -
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ITT : a disguised dread sale
VOTE SKIPPERMONKEY FOR CSM - TERRIBAD AT EVE BUT GREAT AT FORUMS |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2012.01.30 15:31:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:ITT : a disguised dread sale Imnsho, in this case the loan would be 100% collateralized. Doesn't mean that the loan would, or even should, be equal to the collateral.
I'd go with a 60% market rate myself. Low enough to make him want to come back, low enough to facilitate liquidation. |
anarll
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.30 18:41:00 -
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yeah all you guys can go **** yourselves, im already over this loan idea.
85% of value is fair... and if you guys knew any better, you would realize that because dreads are not used, eventually they are getting a buff, so the last thing i would do is take less than 85% of the value.
****'n chodes |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2012.01.30 18:54:00 -
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anarll wrote:85% of value is fair... and if you guys knew any better, you would realize that because dreads are not used, eventually they are getting a buff, so the last thing i would do is take less than 85% of the value.
dreads already got buffed big time (T2 siege mod) and the prices are much higher than they used to be (bought my first dread with capital mods and rigs for 1.2b just 10 months ago).
However, while it was hard to find a dread below 2b around Crucible release, we're now down to 1.8.
I can't say how much of the 1.8b is mineral prices and how much is hype, so I won't try commenting on that. |
Darth Tickles
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.30 18:56:00 -
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lol
umad about collateral loans in an internet spaceship game, brohammer? |
anarll
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.30 21:40:00 -
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im totally wrong dread prices are going to fall, quick sell your dreads |
Shar Tegral
84
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Posted - 2012.01.30 23:04:00 -
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anarll wrote: im already over this loan idea. Does this mean you no longer need the loan?
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anarll
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.30 23:15:00 -
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if you think im going to contract you 2 revelations for 60% of of contract sales price you are ******* high
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anarll
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.01.30 23:20:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:anarll wrote:85% of value is fair... and if you guys knew any better, you would realize that because dreads are not used, eventually they are getting a buff, so the last thing i would do is take less than 85% of the value.
dreads already got buffed big time (T2 siege mod) and the prices are much higher than they used to be (bought my first dread with capital mods and rigs for 1.2b just 10 months ago). However, while it was hard to find a dread below 2b around Crucible release, we're now down to 1.8. I can't say how much of the 1.8b is mineral prices and how much is hype, so I won't try commenting on that.
thats funny, because dreads where never at 2 billion on contracts before or after the crucible release, and i would know because i have way too many |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
239
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Posted - 2012.01.31 01:37:00 -
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anarll wrote:if you think im going to contract you 2 revelations for 60 pct of of contract sales price you are ******* high
Ever read this article?
It explains why collateralized loans and insurance are not a simple thing and how depreciable collateral is valued very conservatively.
This holds even more true in the case of certain "unlucky" items and expecially in the period of the year when minerals are at yearly high and thus prone to tank hard any time. Nyx in hi sec: http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7929/highsecnyxforsale.jpg |
Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
154
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Posted - 2012.01.31 01:42:00 -
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Isk Sent |
Tirestun
Exodus Navy BLACK-MARK
0
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Posted - 2012.01.31 01:53:00 -
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In what galaxy do the person asking for the money get to dictate the terms of such? |
anarll
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:40:00 -
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because the prices of revelations could drop 40% in 30 days... |
anarll
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:40:00 -
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There was an issue with parsing this post's BBCode |
Shar Tegral
84
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:49:00 -
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anarll wrote:if you think im going to contract you 2 revelations for 60% of of contract sales price you are ******* high [Teacher Mode: On]
Collateral that you don't mind losing is NOT collateral. Collateral that you don't mind losing so much is NOT collateral. Collateral that freaking hurts to lose IS collateral.
While a higher exchange rate is preferable to you, your comfort level is NOT any concern of ours. No one knows you, your collateral is mercurial in value, and it is inconveniently located. Those are the realities of the situation.
[Teacher Mode: Off]
Being a jerk about the whole affair is, again, NOT in your best interests. I totally understand that you don't want to do certain things, that is called negotiating the best deal for yourself while it is our job to get the best for ourselves. However being overtly hostile will not, contrary to "I'M A PIMP 101", going to work. |
anarll
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.01.31 03:21:00 -
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lets just let this thread die. you all may think im being an *******, good, because i am. that said, 60% of contract value? for a 30 day or less loan? wtf? the value of revelations will not drop 40% in 30 days or less.
you are no teacher, ur a ****'n chode |
Shar Tegral
84
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Posted - 2012.01.31 03:49:00 -
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anarll wrote:lets just let this thread die. Apparently the only conversation that you wish to have is for us to be your *****.
Sorry, no bitches available for you.
It's just you and your hand tonight.
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Utemetsu
1
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Posted - 2012.01.31 04:45:00 -
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Is this for real? I find it increasingly hard to believe that there was a Kernel of anything here to begin with.
But, in the eventuality that you aren't, in fact, a poor troll, I say we keep this thread alive as a sort of warning to other sorry sods that can't grasp basic economics...rather, business ettiquette...
I take that back, fail OP is fail.
Bonus Round: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=450804#post450804 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=629146#post629146 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=632527#post632527 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=719198#post719198
This thread is now speculation regarding whether or not he actually has a Dread to begin with. Host of the Eve Morning Report [hiatus] |
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Daemon Ceed
Brotherhood Of Treachery
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Posted - 2012.01.31 07:23:00 -
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Heh, someone who has to ask how long a secure container can be anchored in space without checking up on it probably doesn't own a Dread. Any toon should know that within a month of playing.
But if you really want to prove it, put the Revs up on public contract for 100bil just to prove us wrong. |
cigarellos
Trade Federation Directorate
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Posted - 2012.01.31 07:39:00 -
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Uh... how do I shot web? |
anarll
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.01.31 19:07:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote:anarll wrote:lets just let this thread die. Apparently the only conversation that you wish to have is for us to be your *****. Sorry, no bitches available for you. It's just you and your hand tonight.
I have forgotten more about pu$$y than you will ever know |
Ariana DeSoto
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.31 19:13:00 -
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anarll wrote:Shar Tegral wrote:anarll wrote:lets just let this thread die. Apparently the only conversation that you wish to have is for us to be your *****. Sorry, no bitches available for you. It's just you and your hand tonight. I have forgotten more about pu$$y than you will ever know
May I enquire as to your crankiness my male sibling? |
anarll
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.01.31 19:14:00 -
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Daemon Ceed wrote:Heh, someone who has to ask how long a secure container can be anchored in space without checking up on it probably doesn't own a Dread. Any toon should know that within a month of playing. But if you really want to prove it, put the Revs up on public contract for 100bil just to prove us wrong.
Lack of business etiquette? and offering 60% on an item with a stable value? pffft.
if i did put them up on contract it would make no difference, everyone in here is so worried about getting scammed
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Tirestun
Exodus Navy BLACK-MARK
0
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Posted - 2012.01.31 19:15:00 -
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anarll wrote:Shar Tegral wrote:anarll wrote:lets just let this thread die. Apparently the only conversation that you wish to have is for us to be your *****. Sorry, no bitches available for you. It's just you and your hand tonight. I have forgotten more about pu$$y than you will ever know
What a shame. I try to remember things that I watch on the computer. |
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
217
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Posted - 2012.01.31 19:16:00 -
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anarll wrote:I have forgotten more about pu$$y than you will ever know Are you a gynecologist?
Damn nature, you scary! |
Shar Tegral
85
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:18:00 -
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anarll wrote:I have forgotten more about pu$$y than you will ever know God loves you even if you don't love yourself.
Alternately:
You'll have to be less juvenile in your flame to get a rise out of me. Only those with cursory knowledge brag about what they've forgotten. As a happily married man with children clearly older than you I can tell you.... once you learn how to be comfortable with your sexual identity you'll find it needless to display your anxieties so publicly. I do hope that you lose your confusion over your sexual preference before you hurt yourself and someone else in a mis-guided relationship. |
anarll
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:21:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote:anarll wrote:I have forgotten more about pu$$y than you will ever know God loves you even if you don't love yourself. Alternately: You'll have to be less juvenile in your flame to get a rise out of me. Only those with cursory knowledge brag about what they've forgotten. As a happily married man with children clearly older than you I can tell you.... once you learn how to be comfortable with your sexual identity you'll find it needless to display your anxieties so publicly. I do hope that you lose your confusion over your sexual preference before you hurt yourself and someone else in a mis-guided relationship.
save it dude, you mentioned sexual references first... who the **** do you think you are lol |
Shar Tegral
85
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:30:00 -
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anarll wrote:who the **** do you think you are lol Who: Just an honest opinion giver.
After you attacking my sex life I wanted to reassure that you'll figure it out someday and you don't have to be so overtly hostile to everyone who doesn't say the things you want to hear. I'd like to be sorry for hurting your feelings but you obviously can't handle an adult conversation in a public venue.
I understand, saying this again, that you did not appreciate the opinion I expressed. I am sorry that I'm the only offer you actually got but your churlishness in response is unwarranted and a bit over the top. I can only speculate but with this much angst and anger I can't help but feel sorry for your real life. It can only be something bad for you to act so .... ignorantly without cause in a virtual setting.
Perhaps you might want to try actual therapy instead of using the internet as a cheaper alternative. It could do you wonders.
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