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Ballistic CEO
The Ballistic Corporation
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Posted - 2007.11.15 22:48:00 -
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Edited by: Ballistic CEO on 15/11/2007 23:02:22 personally i think being flashy, being -10, living in low sec full time etc is all bull****, I think piracy is a state of mind, its the person not the ship, or the sec status or the corp.
what are your thoughts about the above statements?
edited to save myself from surfin stalkerbunneh 
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.11.15 22:50:00 -
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I think you're full of yourself 
Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
"Villains, I say to you now... knock off all that evil!" ~The Tick |

Ballistic CEO
The Ballistic Corporation
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Posted - 2007.11.15 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I think you're full of yourself 
maybe so but that wasnt the question, try again 
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.11.15 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ballistic CEO
what are your thoughts?
I answered your question 
Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
"Villains, I say to you now... knock off all that evil!" ~The Tick |

ChimeraRouge
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: ChimeraRouge on 15/11/2007 23:03:40
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kessah
Blood Corsair's Blood Blind
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:07:00 -
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no its a state of not being allowed in highsec.
We pay the price, we go -10 and lose on all the oppurtunities that go with high sec.
You dont and from that dont get to be called a pirate.
You are a pvp'er, not a pirate or 'outlaw' ------ [Video] Forever Pirate 4
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:08:00 -
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Now I can answer it!
It's a state of mind... the -10 flashy red is a secondary perk
Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
"Villains, I say to you now... knock off all that evil!" ~The Tick |

VicturusTeSaluto
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: kessah no its a state of not being allowed in highsec.
We pay the price, we go -10 and lose on all the oppurtunities that go with high sec.
You dont and from that dont get to be called a pirate.
You are a pvp'er, not a pirate or 'outlaw'
aint such a thing as "pvp"
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kessah
Blood Corsair's Blood Blind
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
Originally by: kessah no its a state of not being allowed in highsec.
We pay the price, we go -10 and lose on all the oppurtunities that go with high sec.
You dont and from that dont get to be called a pirate.
You are a pvp'er, not a pirate or 'outlaw'
aint such a thing as "pvp"
fine then ppppvp.
------ [Video] Forever Pirate 4
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2k7
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: ChimeraRouge Edited by: ChimeraRouge on 15/11/2007 23:03:40
ooops I poasted with my alt by mistake!
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Niobe
Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:19:00 -
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its a game.
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Rhianon Bonaventure
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: kessah no its a state of not being allowed in highsec.
We pay the price, we go -10 and lose on all the oppurtunities that go with high sec.
You dont and from that dont get to be called a pirate.
You are a pvp'er, not a pirate or 'outlaw'
And how many of you are PURE pirates that don't have alts to haul what you need from high sec?
And yes, I do have an alt that is a pirate, yet I don't haul for them. If you are a true pirate then you'd cultivate a relationship with a 'less than honourable person' to do your hauling and deliver your shipping ect...and for a price.
Try thinking in real world terms about things rather than game mechanics. Otherwise you sound like the 'macros' that everyone spouts about killing!
And NO ... I ain't. Before you ask.
And NO... I'm no alt  |

Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ballistic CEO
edited to save myself from surfin stalkerbunneh 
Too late 
And if you are are trying to imply that a can flipper in high sec is a pirate, you are wrong
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ChimeraRouge
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: 2k7
Originally by: ChimeraRouge Edited by: ChimeraRouge on 15/11/2007 23:03:40
ooops I poasted with my alt by mistake!
fvck you
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Deew Rekoms
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rhianon Bonaventure
Originally by: kessah no its a state of not being allowed in highsec.
We pay the price, we go -10 and lose on all the oppurtunities that go with high sec.
You dont and from that dont get to be called a pirate.
You are a pvp'er, not a pirate or 'outlaw'
And how many of you are PURE pirates that don't have alts to haul what you need from high sec?
And yes, I do have an alt that is a pirate, yet I don't haul for them. If you are a true pirate then you'd cultivate a relationship with a 'less than honourable person' to do your hauling and deliver your shipping ect...and for a price.
Try thinking in real world terms about things rather than game mechanics. Otherwise you sound like the 'macros' that everyone spouts about killing!
And NO ... I ain't. Before you ask.
And NO... I'm no alt 
a real pirate makes a contract for someone to move his stuff and then robs the convoy itself to not have to pay for the hauling..  
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2k7
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: ChimeraRouge
Originally by: 2k7
Originally by: ChimeraRouge Edited by: ChimeraRouge on 15/11/2007 23:03:40
ooops I poasted with my alt by mistake!
fvck you
stop talking to myself
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Neal Cassady
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Deew Rekoms
Originally by: Rhianon Bonaventure
Originally by: kessah no its a state of not being allowed in highsec.
We pay the price, we go -10 and lose on all the oppurtunities that go with high sec.
You dont and from that dont get to be called a pirate.
You are a pvp'er, not a pirate or 'outlaw'
And how many of you are PURE pirates that don't have alts to haul what you need from high sec?
And yes, I do have an alt that is a pirate, yet I don't haul for them. If you are a true pirate then you'd cultivate a relationship with a 'less than honourable person' to do your hauling and deliver your shipping ect...and for a price.
Try thinking in real world terms about things rather than game mechanics. Otherwise you sound like the 'macros' that everyone spouts about killing!
And NO ... I ain't. Before you ask.
And NO... I'm no alt 
a real pirate makes a contract for someone to move his stuff and then robs the convoy itself to not have to pay for the hauling..  
and he gets the collateral too!!!
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Kenneth McCoy
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:43:00 -
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Yall can be 'piewats' and flashy if you want to. I'll be.. a bandit or something. I kill ****, but not randomly and I don't sit on gates smartbombing noob ships and shuttles all day in a mothership.
That's not pirating, that's just ***
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Orar Ironfist
Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kenneth McCoy Yall can be 'piewats' and flashy if you want to. I'll be.. a bandit or something. I kill ****, but not randomly and I don't sit on gates smartbombing noob ships and shuttles all day in a mothership.
That's not pirating, that's just ***
Thats not pirating thats just lame. Pirates (true ones) are -10 live in low sec Not aonly gate camp but belt-pirate, ransom, generally mame the innocent (hauling alts are only ok if after you deliver the goods you pod your own alt)  -=YYYAAAAARRRRRRR!!!!!=- Winning or Losing doesn't matter, as long as the fight itself was good.
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Darth Schweinebacke
Caldari Born Bravos
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Posted - 2007.11.15 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: Darth Schweinebacke on 16/11/2007 00:01:15 a pirate is someone who makes profit by killing others...
not everyone who is -10 must be a pirate, only when its still your intention to make profit from killing stuff... of course it should be your intention when you are -10 and have no chance to make money anywhere else... but when you have some alt sitting in some 0.0 space and make money with him or have a trading alt to make money or anything alike and just kill ppl for fun in low sec you are not a pirate.
But also being <-5 is not a must for being a pirate. If you like killing stuff in high sec to make profit its piracy too, just in a different way.
You also can be a pirate when you only kill stuff in 0.0 but do not belong to any local alliance, as long as its your goal to make profit and its not really your goal to go against a spacial target.
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Ballistic CEO
The Ballistic Corporation
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Posted - 2007.11.16 00:31:00 -
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ar+ti+fi+cial (Sr'tə-fĭsh'əl) pronunciation adj.
1. 1. Made by humans; produced rather than natural. 2. Brought about or caused by sociopolitical or other human-generated forces or influences: set up artificial barriers against women and minorities; an artificial economic boom. 2. Made in imitation of something natural; simulated: artificial teeth. 3. Not genuine or natural: an artificial smile.
for the mix 
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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2007.11.16 00:38:00 -
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who cares?
The Movement is recruiting! |

Stuart Price
Caldari Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2007.11.16 01:14:00 -
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I engage stuff I'm fairly sure about killing (Manticore vs. Rifter etc) because it makes me happy and sometimes nets me some shiny loot. Sometimes I engage harder stuff just to prove to myself that I can (but only when Admiral Ackbar says it's ok).
When I want to make some actual money I just farm the local macro haulers for implants.
The second bit is what I consider piracy from a nautical, rum laced standpoint. The first bit just makes me a total git. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier" |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.11.16 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Rhianon Bonaventure
Originally by: kessah no its a state of not being allowed in highsec.
We pay the price, we go -10 and lose on all the oppurtunities that go with high sec.
You dont and from that dont get to be called a pirate.
You are a pvp'er, not a pirate or 'outlaw'
And how many of you are PURE pirates that don't have alts to haul what you need from high sec?
And yes, I do have an alt that is a pirate, yet I don't haul for them. If you are a true pirate then you'd cultivate a relationship with a 'less than honourable person' to do your hauling and deliver your shipping ect...and for a price.
Try thinking in real world terms about things rather than game mechanics. Otherwise you sound like the 'macros' that everyone spouts about killing!
And NO ... I ain't. Before you ask.
And NO... I'm no alt 
I don't have an alt to haul stuff for me... I pay the local carebears to bring me stuff. We have a "You're doing a service for me, I won't bother you" attitude going. I don't mess up their mining ops, and they provide the illusion that it's safe for everyone to mine in the area 
Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking
"Villains, I say to you now... knock off all that evil!" ~The Tick |

Leora Nomen
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Posted - 2007.11.16 02:19:00 -
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Anyone who kills other players to make moneys is a pirate. You don't have to go to negative sec status to be a pirate, as EVE police can be bribed. Concord will close its eyes for as long as you pay for your ebil deeds in high sec empire. But in exchange you pay for it by having limited choice of targets as you can only war dec few corps/alliances at the same time. In such, piracy is not state of mind but rather defined by performing certain actions in game which result in other players losing their ships and you enriching yourself at their expense.
Mercenaries are different from pirates in that mercenaries should take any kind of work for pay, not just killing of other players. Mercenaries that refuse to accept contracts for anything else but declaring wars are basically pirates for hire, not real mercs. Scamming is also completely different as profession from piracy.
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Kaya Divine
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Posted - 2007.11.16 06:31:00 -
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(The English "pirate" is derived from the Latin term pirata, and ultimately from Greek peira (πεῖρα) "attempt, experience", implicitly "to find luck on the sea". The word is also cognate to peril. In 17th and 18th century sources the word is often rendered "pyrate". However, the term does not exclusively relate to robbery committed at the sea, as other similar origins have a broader definition)
My pers. opinion: You are not a pirate if you are close to any station where you can dock if it is needed (someone who have bigger guns then you, or some lonely pirate chaser entered system).. You are not a pirate if you can only kill half afk. players.... Pirates fight each other..and only those pirates who can kill most of pirates deserve to be admired and that have theirs story told ....by generations of clones...
Everything else is work in progress.
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