Originally by: Re Mi

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Edited by: Re Mi on 17/11/2007 03:05:10

Originally by: Misfitsa

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Originally by: Re Mi

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I am prepared for random pirates, I am not prepared for people to kill me when my haul isn't worth a pirates time. There is no explanation for that kind of attack, and no defense.

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qft
i was flying a rifter through delve and BoB shot me. how is my little rifter even worth their time?

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I am a neutral party in empire. You get a .5 security reduction to shoot at me. My cargo hold is empty. Why would you shoot at me?

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Originally by: Re Mi

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Originally by: Pilk

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I'm going to assume you're kidding. To do otherwise would be too painful.

--P

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I am not kidding. To see ships get taken down when there is no economic benefit, and a long hard standings grind to get standings back, does not make any sense unless it has a war purpose. What triggered my looking deeper into this was getting shot at with an empty hold. No pirate shoots at an empty hauler in empire. If I hadn't been warp stabbed I would have died, I was already into structure when I was able to warp to station. How do you explain something like that?

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Originally by: Hrin

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How many wardecs do you have now?

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Originally by: Re Mi

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Originally by: Divus

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i agree with tha op - but what can we do i ask you?

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Good question. What can you do? Be aware that our supplies, are your supply line link to Empire, and it CAN be cut through this kind of warfare. What happens if ships and modules stop flowing at the same time your home systems are being attacked and your services are being knocked off line? What happens if trit and POS fuel stops getting delivered to your doorstep? Empire is a lifeline to any alliance under stress. You kill empire, you kill 0.0. As far as what you can do, keep the major wars in 0.0. Don't make it my problem.

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Originally by: Re Mi

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Edited by: Re Mi on 17/11/2007 03:54:11

Originally by: Admiral Pelleon

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Originally by: Re Mi

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Originally by: Divus

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i agree with tha op - but what can we do i ask you?

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Good question. What can you do? Be aware that our supplies, are your supply line link to Empire, and it CAN be cut through this kind of warfare. What happens if ships and modules stop flowing at the same time your home systems are being attacked and your services are being knocked off line? What happens if trit and POS fuel stops getting delivered to your doorstep? Empire is a lifeline to any alliance under stress. You kill empire, you kill 0.0. As far as what you can do, keep the major wars in 0.0. Don't make it my problem.

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You do understand most large alliances, and even most small ones, are completely self sufficient right?

We only have a few hundred members and empire being 50 jumps away means we have nothing to rely on besides ourselves.

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Surely you jest. 0.0 is anything but self sufficient. They have vast piles of isk that goes towards buying huge quantities of empire goods. Empire provides the surge capacity that makes alliances viable when they need to fight a war. If that is true that 0.0 is self sufficient, then who is buying all of my stuff? Its not mission runners. Its not small corps/alliances in empire.

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Originally by: Re Mi

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Originally by: Tiberius Decius

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Perhaps you should take your little carebear heart out into 0.0 and find out for yourself. You say 0.0 cant do this and that, but yet i bet you have never even worked out of 0.0 before. Have you? Our corporation alone makes everything i need in 0.0 let alone all the other corporations and alliance, i havnt been to empire in 6 months. Sure its inflated, but you make stupid amounts of money easily so who cares?

That hauler/freigther of yours has alot more value to you then my more expensive ship does to me, but mostly its your tears that make it all worth the while

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I would like to see you build a titan without empire trit. Do the math and calculate the man hours it takes purely from the resources you have now. See you after a couple of years in your Hulk.

Oh, and the reason your prices are inflated, is because that is what I sell things at, to that guy in your corp who always seems to have what you need. Thank you for the isk. Now imagine for a second if you you could buy things at Jita prices. Think what you as a corp could buy, and think what you could do. It would be like doubling or tripling your buying power. The lack of security is primarily what you are paying for, not the distance.

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