Originally by: Nemesis God

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poasting in a thread

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Originally by: ElanMorin6

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Originally by: Nemesis God

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poasting in a thread

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Fixed that for you.


Also,

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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or losing significant battles.

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Originally by: missionalt

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ps who the **** are you

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Love it how all are now prediciting BoB¿s death woithout them having even lost part of their home territories or losing significant battles.

They are in trouble, yes, but far from being defeated.

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Originally by: Admiral Pelleon

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Love it how all are now prediciting BoB¿s death woithout them having even lost part of their home territories or losing significant battles.

They are in trouble, yes, but far from being defeated.

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3/10 troll

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Originally by: Steel Catrat

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You had it all; and now, you have nothing û at least nothing that will be around for much longer.

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If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.

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Originally by: Steel Catrat

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How are you? BoB and co still holding up strong?
I understand that you have pulled your allies back for a big bunker party in Delve. LetÆs cut out the tedium of small talk and get right to the point.
You have played right into the hands of your enemy and there is now no going back. Your movements were predicted long ago and it was expected that you would make the decision to pull back and defend. Actually, itÆs more like you didnÆt have a choice. With your northern campaign grinding to a halt and your defence of Querious weakening by the day, you had to pull back for you knew that one day, you would have the allies knocking right on the door of your main hubs. Temporary retreat was your ONLY option.

But what are you going to do now? IÆm sure that even you know that one of the first rules of engagement is that you cannot win a battle by simply defending, so there must be more on your agenda here. Your movement into Catch was intended to be quick and easy, and you expected to use it as your stepping stone into AAA space and back into Feyth. It was your only hope to keep this war in your favour. However, things didnÆt go exactly your way. You encountered unexpected resistance in Catch and that campaign has now ground to a halt. Now with RedSwarm completely in control of what used to be your territory, where have you to go? As we speak, Goons are securing their new space, amassing their stockpiles, and building their numbers for an assault on Period Basis like non youÆve experienced before. Even your campaign in catch is crumbling as IAAAC begin to take back the space you stole.

What about the north?
YouWhat, one of your closest allies in the north, have recently surrendered their entire space to your enemies. Your campaign up there was original successful, but unfortunately in the end, your allies were pushed back and defeated. You are now stuck in a pincer and there is nothing you can do about it. Maybe it might be time to start thinking about departure. ThatÆs right, it looks like this war has only one outcome, and it doesnÆt end with a very happy Molle. I know as well as the next man that BoB would never surrender; but since you wonÆt surrender, you will be destroyed. The outcome of this war is now inevitable, and the resolution of the coalition is absolute.

Your plans for galactic domination have failed, and what remains of your campaign simply remain for the purpose of being destroyed. You had it all; and now, you have nothing û at least nothing that will be around for much longer.
It is over.

gg

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Originally by: Steel Catrat

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YouWhat, one of your closest allies in the north, have recently surrendered their entire space to your enemies.

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Originally by: Darko1107

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Originally by: Admiral Pelleon

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Love it how all are now prediciting BoB¿s death woithout them having even lost part of their home territories or losing significant battles.

They are in trouble, yes, but far from being defeated.

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3/10 troll

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How is that trolling? Mr Woodlouse bring a good point to the table, maybe he is wrong in that they havent lost any significant battles, but they do indeed still have all thier core regions.

Your the troll by making some half-assed comment then not backing it up.

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Originally by: DALE0404

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Edited by: DALE0404 on 18/11/2007 03:00:10
We might be small, we might be a new Alliance, we might be uninteresting but until Goons prove something else. we are and always will be Pro-BOB.

get over it!

Hell, we dont even hold Empire space, ask Interimo!!

But saying that, 0.0 is a bit different! Maybe.....

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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar

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They still on summer break, you just wait till they come back.

Oh boy, and I mean this time (not the last time they said it), you will see the full wrath...yes indeed

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Originally by: Abn Matar

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Edited by: Abn Matar on 18/11/2007 03:08:17

Originally by: DALE0404

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Edited by: DALE0404 on 18/11/2007 03:00:10
We might be small, we might be a new Alliance, we might be uninteresting but until Goons prove something else. we are and always will be Pro-BOB.

get over it!

Hell, we dont even hold Empire space, ask Interimo!!

But saying that, 0.0 is a bit different! Maybe.....

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Your'e also AFK...

We are? Ta

A.F.K Alliance

Originally by: Prez21

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what a load of crap, youwhat werent defeated my bobs enemies in the north because it was tri who beat youwhat and tri hate goons just as much as bob maybe even more.

I hope bob actualy win this war to shut all the smack talking noob alts up who cant pvp for sh*t

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Originally by: Dylan Rhade

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Those are all i can think of atm, but, never forget, RA bounced back from using POS as stations, into the alliance with twice then territory they held previously, i was in C-J when LV and friends tried to wipe them out, and i will never forget the speed at which they bounced back.

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Originally by: Steel Catrat

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How are you? BoB and co still holding up strong?

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Originally by: Dextrius

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sounds to me like the goofswarm are taking this whole thing pretty SERIOUSLY... come on goof's its just a game remember?

but if they lose ground they will go whine to mommy and daddy CCP to nerf something.

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Originally by: Duke Grail

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You're speaking for the whole of tri now? Many members of Tri have joined in on the goonswarm forum shenninigans recently. They don't seem to take the game too seriously, apparently you do.

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Originally by: Prez21

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what a load of crap, youwhat werent defeated my bobs enemies in the north because it was tri who beat youwhat and tri hate goons just as much as bob maybe even more.

I hope bob actualy win this war to shut all the smack talking noob alts up who cant pvp for sh*t

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Originally by: Iasius

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Edited by: Iasius on 18/11/2007 01:12:17
I think BOB are going to pull something out of the bag. So what is it?

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Originally by: Prez21

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what a load of crap, youwhat werent defeated my bobs enemies in the north because it was tri who beat youwhat and tri hate goons just as much as bob maybe even more.

I hope bob actualy win this war to shut all the smack talking noob alts up who cant pvp for sh*t

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Originally by: Farham

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I would just like to say, having Sir Molle himself (In Shrike form) tell us we are being evicted was a once in a life time experience. The fact his alliance gave up the very same space with far less of a fight not 6 months later is a testament to his extreme control of 0.0.

Oh wait.

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Originally by: Dylan Rhade

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In real warfare, purely defensive is never a good tactic for the obvious reasons.

But as this isnt real life warfare, there are major advantages to what BoB have done with retreating to the home regions.

1 - Their home systems will be unasailable fortresses as they would no doubt have been the first places to start on the sov road when sov entered EvE.

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2 - They shorten their supply lines, forcing RSF to lengthen theirs and spend time getting supplies of ships and such to the new front lines

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3 - Less territory to defend means they can focus higher numbers into few systems, also, travel time is reduced whereas RSF's is lengthened, putting strain on pilots, FC's and fleets.

4 - Whole new cyno chains will be needed to get the RSF capitals to the front lines and then some to enter BoB space.

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Those are all i can think of atm, but, never forget, RA bounced back from using POS as stations, into the alliance with twice then territory they held previously, i was in C-J when LV and friends tried to wipe them out, and i will never forget the speed at which they bounced back.

D

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Originally by: Mr Broker

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Originally by: Prez21

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what a load of crap, youwhat werent defeated my bobs enemies in the north because it was tri who beat youwhat and tri hate goons just as much as bob maybe even more.

I hope bob actualy win this war to shut all the smack talking noob alts up who cant pvp for sh*t

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look ma, it's the noob that flies rigged officer fitted faction ships in empire war decs but only to play dock games against an equal number of regular t1 battleships HAHAHAHHA AHHAHAHA

your corp sucks, you're lucky one of your guys knows a guy in tri or you'd still be running around empire being a failure merc corp

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Originally by: Prez21

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And my orginal post was made under the influence of alcohol and wasnt meant as an insult to goons just to all the stupid alts talking crap on the forums like yourself who probably havnt even killed a ship during the whole war but are quick to run there mouths on the forums

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Originally by: Prez21

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what a load of crap, youwhat werent defeated my bobs enemies in the north because it was tri who beat youwhat and tri hate goons just as much as bob maybe even more.

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Originally by: Gaius Kador

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Nothing surprises me as to the lengths Star Fraction will go to push their propaganda on the public masses.

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Originally by: Dylan Rhade

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In real warfare, purely defensive is never a good tactic for the obvious reasons.

But as this isnt real life warfare, there are major advantages to what BoB have done with retreating to the home regions.

1 - Their home systems will be unasailable fortresses as they would no doubt have been the first places to start on the sov road when sov entered EvE.

2 - They shorten their supply lines, forcing RSF to lengthen theirs and spend time getting supplies of ships and such to the new front lines

3 - Less territory to defend means they can focus higher numbers into few systems, also, travel time is reduced whereas RSF's is lengthened, putting strain on pilots, FC's and fleets.

4 - Whole new cyno chains will be needed to get the RSF capitals to the front lines and then some to enter BoB space.

Those are all i can think of atm, but, never forget, RA bounced back from using POS as stations, into the alliance with twice then territory they held previously, i was in C-J when LV and friends tried to wipe them out, and i will never forget the speed at which they bounced back.

D

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Originally by: Voculus

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I agree with the OP. Bobbit's glory days are certainly over, and even with the Goony spam, the forums are still a far more pleasant place without the old school bobbits crapping all over it.

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I predict that it won't be long before Tri and Goons end up fighting eachother. There is something distinctly schizophrenic about Tri's view of goons. Its not just you.... it seem to be a recurring theme. And if BoB's lucky break is gonna come from somewhere, it will be probably Tri that deliver it.

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Edited by: Nez Perces on 18/11/2007 11:13:21

Originally by: Prez21

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And my orginal post was made under the influence of alcohol and wasnt meant as an insult to goons just to all the stupid alts talking crap on the forums like yourself who probably havnt even killed a ship during the whole war but are quick to run there mouths on the forums

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Thats an impressive amount of back-peddling there....lol.

Lets watch a replay.... just for fun...

Originally by: Prez21

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what a load of crap, youwhat werent defeated my bobs enemies in the north because it was tri who beat youwhat and tri hate goons just as much as bob maybe even more.

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Seems pretty clear cut to me.

I am the proud owner of an all-seeing, all-dancing crystal ball... it happens to be working pretty good today. And as this thread is partially about predicting the future...

I predict that it won't be long before Tri and Goons end up fighting eachother. There is something distinctly schizophrenic about Tri's view of goons. Its not just you.... it seem to be a recurring theme. And if BoB's lucky break is gonna come from somewhere, it will be probably Tri that deliver it.

Infact there is something weird about Tri in general, like some pig-tailed, murderous, pumped up muscle man running around in a mini-skirt and heavy mascara, bludgeoning people to death on the sidewalk.

[edit: clarity]

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Originally by: Florio

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Hi there, you're through to BoB. We're all on holiday at the moment playing Pirates of the Burning Sea and WoW. You are important to us so please leave a message after the beep.

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Originally by: Maksiim

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For months BoB have been running extreme logistics far from there home regions holding these regions before they pulled back, I doubt Goon can afford to run the kind this kind of supply tbh.

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Originally by: Yaay

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Did you ever think maybe just maybe, you're an idiot? Fight on the field, leave the forum to the *****s.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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do you know anyone in bob who might be able to give good peptalks?

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Originally by: Ungdall

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I need a sig that says "This is the worst thread", can someone help me with this?

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Originally by: Juha85

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Youwhat was never fighting for bob in the north. Youwhat fought for youwhat.

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Originally by: Aperion Madante

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Poll: This thread needs checkboxes.
[ ] Confirm
[ ] Deny
[X] Pat Buchanan

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Originally by: Admiral Pelleon

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Love it how all are now prediciting BoB¿s death woithout them having even lost part of their home territories or losing significant battles.

They are in trouble, yes, but far from being defeated.

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3/10 troll

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Originally by: touchvill

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People within Tri have their own oppinions of each of the alliances.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Yaay

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Did you ever think maybe just maybe, you're an idiot? Fight on the field, leave the forum to the *****s.

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after a terrible thread like this your side could use a peptalk

do you know anyone in bob who might be able to give good peptalks?

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Originally by: Karunel

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Edited by: Karunel on 18/11/2007 18:43:06

Originally by: Admiral Pelleon

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Love it how all are now prediciting BoB¿s death woithout them having even lost part of their home territories or losing significant battles.

They are in trouble, yes, but far from being defeated.

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3/10 troll

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Nice job at making a mockery of yourself by trying to trash a reasonable post by someone who, unlike you, actually matters or has mattered in the game and whose opinions are widely considered worth reading.

Thumbs up.

Edit: Youwhat wasn't or isn't a BoB pet.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Karunel

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Edited by: Karunel on 18/11/2007 18:43:06

Originally by: Admiral Pelleon

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Love it how all are now prediciting BoB¿s death woithout them having even lost part of their home territories or losing significant battles.

They are in trouble, yes, but far from being defeated.

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3/10 troll

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Nice job at making a mockery of yourself by trying to trash a reasonable post by someone who, unlike you, actually matters or has mattered in the game and whose opinions are widely considered worth reading.

Thumbs up.

Edit: Youwhat wasn't or isn't a BoB pet.

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yeah i see a couple of peeps tryin to rehabilitate yw's rep here but the truth is they were pets and backstabbers

annnnnd now they lost all their space so its pretty good

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Yaay

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Did you ever think maybe just maybe, you're an idiot? Fight on the field, leave the forum to the *****s.

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after a terrible thread like this your side could use a peptalk

do you know anyone in bob who might be able to give good peptalks?

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Originally by: fire 59

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Edited by: fire 59 on 18/11/2007 20:14:46

Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Karunel

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Edited by: Karunel on 18/11/2007 18:43:06

Originally by: Admiral Pelleon

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Love it how all are now prediciting BoB¿s death woithout them having even lost part of their home territories or losing significant battles.

They are in trouble, yes, but far from being defeated.

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3/10 troll

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Nice job at making a mockery of yourself by trying to trash a reasonable post by someone who, unlike you, actually matters or has mattered in the game and whose opinions are widely considered worth reading.

Thumbs up.

Edit: Youwhat wasn't or isn't a BoB pet.

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yeah i see a couple of peeps tryin to rehabilitate yw's rep here but the truth is they were pets and backstabbers

annnnnd now they lost all their space so its pretty good

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It's fascinating that you call them backstabbers, seeing as it was you who posted the original logs of d2 trying to talk to you about backstabbing youwhat. Short memory on that one mate?

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Originally by: fire 59

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It's fascinating that you call them backstabbers, seeing as it was you who posted the original logs of d2 trying to talk to you about backstabbing youwhat. Short memory on that one mate?

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Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: fire 59

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It's fascinating that you call them backstabbers, seeing as it was you who posted the original logs of d2 trying to talk to you about backstabbing youwhat. Short memory on that one mate?

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id comment but i gotta give my dad a call soz m8

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Love it how all are now prediciting BoB¿s death woithout them having even lost part of their home territories or losing significant battles.

They are in trouble, yes, but far from being defeated.

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Originally by: fire 59

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Edited by: fire 59 on 18/11/2007 20:14:46

Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Karunel

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Edited by: Karunel on 18/11/2007 18:43:06

Originally by: Admiral Pelleon

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Love it how all are now prediciting BoB¿s death woithout them having even lost part of their home territories or losing significant battles.

They are in trouble, yes, but far from being defeated.

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3/10 troll

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Nice job at making a mockery of yourself by trying to trash a reasonable post by someone who, unlike you, actually matters or has mattered in the game and whose opinions are widely considered worth reading.

Thumbs up.

Edit: Youwhat wasn't or isn't a BoB pet.

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yeah i see a couple of peeps tryin to rehabilitate yw's rep here but the truth is they were pets and backstabbers

annnnnd now they lost all their space so its pretty good

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It's fascinating that you call them backstabbers, seeing as it was you who posted the original logs of d2 trying to talk to you about backstabbing youwhat. Short memory on that one mate?

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Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd

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so, is there one particular system that bob must lose; because it's the ONLY system that is REALLY bob's? and therefore, until they lose that ONE system, they've never "really" lost anything?

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Originally by: Dafuzz

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Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd

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so, is there one particular system that bob must lose; because it's the ONLY system that is REALLY bob's? and therefore, until they lose that ONE system, they've never "really" lost anything?

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Yes.

In before the edit \o/

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Originally by: Jim Linger

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we have nothing at all to do with your war

just fyi

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Originally by: Tek Halcyon

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You can't win a defensive war (ref RA)

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Originally by: Tarantelita

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Very good writen post.

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Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd

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Edited by: Ezoran DuBlaidd on 19/11/2007 00:00:28

Originally by: fire 59

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Edited by: fire 59 on 18/11/2007 20:14:46

Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Karunel

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Edited by: Karunel on 18/11/2007 18:43:06

Originally by: Admiral Pelleon

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Love it how all are now prediciting BoB¿s death woithout them having even lost part of their home territories or losing significant battles.

They are in trouble, yes, but far from being defeated.

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3/10 troll

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Nice job at making a mockery of yourself by trying to trash a reasonable post by someone who, unlike you, actually matters or has mattered in the game and whose opinions are widely considered worth reading.

Thumbs up.

Edit: Youwhat wasn't or isn't a BoB pet.

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yeah i see a couple of peeps tryin to rehabilitate yw's rep here but the truth is they were pets and backstabbers

annnnnd now they lost all their space so its pretty good

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It's fascinating that you call them backstabbers, seeing as it was you who posted the original logs of d2 trying to talk to you about backstabbing youwhat. Short memory on that one mate?

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just out of curiousity, and please do correct me if i'm way off here -- have the goonies ever claimed to NOT be backstabbing scammers? or, have they, maybe, claimed TO be backstabbing scammers on a number of occasions?

just curious, i'm thinking you confused them with some other e-honor group.

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Originally by: Steel Catrat

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How are you? BoB and co still holding up strong?
I understand that you have pulled your allies back for a big bunker party in Delve. LetÆs cut out the tedium of small talk and get right to the point.
You have played right into the hands of your enemy and there is now no going back. Your movements were predicted long ago and it was expected that you would make the decision to pull back and defend. Actually, itÆs more like you didnÆt have a choice. With your northern campaign grinding to a halt and your defence of Querious weakening by the day, you had to pull back for you knew that one day, you would have the allies knocking right on the door of your main hubs. Temporary retreat was your ONLY option.

But what are you going to do now? IÆm sure that even you know that one of the first rules of engagement is that you cannot win a battle by simply defending, so there must be more on your agenda here. Your movement into Catch was intended to be quick and easy, and you expected to use it as your stepping stone into AAA space and back into Feyth. It was your only hope to keep this war in your favour. However, things didnÆt go exactly your way. You encountered unexpected resistance in Catch and that campaign has now ground to a halt. Now with RedSwarm completely in control of what used to be your territory, where have you to go? As we speak, Goons are securing their new space, amassing their stockpiles, and building their numbers for an assault on Period Basis like non youÆve experienced before. Even your campaign in catch is crumbling as IAAAC begin to take back the space you stole.

What about the north?
YouWhat, one of your closest allies in the north, have recently surrendered their entire space to your enemies. Your campaign up there was original successful, but unfortunately in the end, your allies were pushed back and defeated. You are now stuck in a pincer and there is nothing you can do about it. Maybe it might be time to start thinking about departure. ThatÆs right, it looks like this war has only one outcome, and it doesnÆt end with a very happy Molle. I know as well as the next man that BoB would never surrender; but since you wonÆt surrender, you will be destroyed. The outcome of this war is now inevitable, and the resolution of the coalition is absolute.

Your plans for galactic domination have failed, and what remains of your campaign simply remain for the purpose of being destroyed. You had it all; and now, you have nothing û at least nothing that will be around for much longer.
It is over.

gg

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Originally by: Yaay

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Originally by: Steel Catrat

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How are you? BoB and co still holding up strong?
I understand that you have pulled your allies back for a big bunker party in Delve. LetÆs cut out the tedium of small talk and get right to the point.
You have played right into the hands of your enemy and there is now no going back. Your movements were predicted long ago and it was expected that you would make the decision to pull back and defend. Actually, itÆs more like you didnÆt have a choice. With your northern campaign grinding to a halt and your defence of Querious weakening by the day, you had to pull back for you knew that one day, you would have the allies knocking right on the door of your main hubs. Temporary retreat was your ONLY option.

But what are you going to do now? IÆm sure that even you know that one of the first rules of engagement is that you cannot win a battle by simply defending, so there must be more on your agenda here. Your movement into Catch was intended to be quick and easy, and you expected to use it as your stepping stone into AAA space and back into Feyth. It was your only hope to keep this war in your favour. However, things didnÆt go exactly your way. You encountered unexpected resistance in Catch and that campaign has now ground to a halt. Now with RedSwarm completely in control of what used to be your territory, where have you to go? As we speak, Goons are securing their new space, amassing their stockpiles, and building their numbers for an assault on Period Basis like non youÆve experienced before. Even your campaign in catch is crumbling as IAAAC begin to take back the space you stole.

What about the north?
YouWhat, one of your closest allies in the north, have recently surrendered their entire space to your enemies. Your campaign up there was original successful, but unfortunately in the end, your allies were pushed back and defeated. You are now stuck in a pincer and there is nothing you can do about it. Maybe it might be time to start thinking about departure. ThatÆs right, it looks like this war has only one outcome, and it doesnÆt end with a very happy Molle. I know as well as the next man that BoB would never surrender; but since you wonÆt surrender, you will be destroyed. The outcome of this war is now inevitable, and the resolution of the coalition is absolute.

Your plans for galactic domination have failed, and what remains of your campaign simply remain for the purpose of being destroyed. You had it all; and now, you have nothing û at least nothing that will be around for much longer.
It is over.

gg

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Did you ever think maybe just maybe, you're an idiot? Fight on the field, leave the forum to the *****s.

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Originally by: Dylan Rhade

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1 - Their home systems will be unasailable fortresses as they would no doubt have been the first places to start on the sov road when sov entered EvE.

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Originally by: Dylan Rhade

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2 - They shorten their supply lines, forcing RSF to lengthen theirs and spend time getting supplies of ships and such to the new front lines

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Originally by: Dylan Rhade

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3 - Less territory to defend means they can focus higher numbers into few systems, also, travel time is reduced whereas RSF's is lengthened, putting strain on pilots, FC's and fleets.

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Originally by: Dyalan Rhade

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4 - Whole new cyno chains will be needed to get the RSF capitals to the front lines and then some to enter BoB space.

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Originally by: Orebuster

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...blah blah...

Doesn't this also mean that ratting/moon mining/other money making ventures are curtailed? If they move all their core corps into one or three systems, don't they run the risk of creating friction among the pets and vets?

..blah blah..

Remember this, when you have assets buried deep in BoB space, they will have theirs safely tucked away in empire, and they will expect you to risk your hard earned gains so they can keep charging you rent. It is never too late to realize you're on the wrong side.

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Originally by: fire 59

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Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd

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Edited by: Ezoran DuBlaidd on 19/11/2007 00:00:28

Originally by: fire 59

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Edited by: fire 59 on 18/11/2007 20:14:46

Originally by: The Mittani

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Originally by: Karunel

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Edited by: Karunel on 18/11/2007 18:43:06

Originally by: Admiral Pelleon

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Love it how all are now prediciting BoB¿s death woithout them having even lost part of their home territories or losing significant battles.

They are in trouble, yes, but far from being defeated.

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3/10 troll

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Nice job at making a mockery of yourself by trying to trash a reasonable post by someone who, unlike you, actually matters or has mattered in the game and whose opinions are widely considered worth reading.

Thumbs up.

Edit: Youwhat wasn't or isn't a BoB pet.

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yeah i see a couple of peeps tryin to rehabilitate yw's rep here but the truth is they were pets and backstabbers

annnnnd now they lost all their space so its pretty good

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It's fascinating that you call them backstabbers, seeing as it was you who posted the original logs of d2 trying to talk to you about backstabbing youwhat. Short memory on that one mate?

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just out of curiousity, and please do correct me if i'm way off here -- have the goonies ever claimed to NOT be backstabbing scammers? or, have they, maybe, claimed TO be backstabbing scammers on a number of occasions?

just curious, i'm thinking you confused them with some other e-honor group.

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Most certainly the goons are . But, he and others quite often call youwhat backstabbers because they sided with bob, completely forgetting that 'D2', the boss of the old north, approached goonswarm about backstabbing youwhat and leaving them to die whilst making it look like they had fought to help them but in actual fact, pull down all but on pos so goons get the sov, d2 look like they were giving it there all and youwhat gets faceslapped by the 'loyal' d2.

A political move because it was 'embaressing' struggling against the goons and they wanted out without losing face, sums it up

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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What a load of crap, D2 never talked with Goonswarm about backstabbing YouWhat, infact the vast majority of D2 pilots hated Goons and only very few had a grudge against YW.

Trillian Dent did totally unauthorized talk with Goons and after that himself left his duties to another person, cause the cries of anger within D2 were very loud to say the least, when it came out.

He made a mistake, not D2.

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Originally by: Dafuzz

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PS: I miss D2, honorable enemies.

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Originally by: NATMav

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Originally by: Dafuzz

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PS: I miss D2, honorable enemies.

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I miss G.

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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Pulling back is normally better than blowing your load.

You might be stuck for life.

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Originally by: Orebuster

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Originally by: Dylan Rhade

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1 - Their home systems will be unasailable fortresses as they would no doubt have been the first places to start on the sov road when sov entered EvE.

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I would assume, their home systems would have been "unasailable" fortresses before the pullback?

Originally by: Dylan Rhade

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2 - They shorten their supply lines, forcing RSF to lengthen theirs and spend time getting supplies of ships and such to the new front lines

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This is true

Originally by: Dylan Rhade

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3 - Less territory to defend means they can focus higher numbers into few systems, also, travel time is reduced whereas RSF's is lengthened, putting strain on pilots, FC's and fleets.

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Doesn't this also mean that ratting/moon mining/other money making ventures are curtailed? If they move all their core corps into one or three systems, don't they run the risk of creating friction among the pets and vets? Also, RSF can stage a lot closer to that space, since, well, there was never much of a fight for staging areas close to that space.

Originally by: Dyalan Rhade

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4 - Whole new cyno chains will be needed to get the RSF capitals to the front lines and then some to enter BoB space.

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True. But, what about when they are complete? It isn't like anyone is trying to stop RSF from doing whatever they want to do. BoB isn't trying, they have turtled up. Most of the ships I see out and about belong to pets that prefer living by their wits, to living by their old reputation. It is true, BoB used to be a group of highly skilled pilots, that worked well together, and shot balls of death out of their arse, but now, it is a conglomeration of the best pilots from failed alliances, trying to hold back a tidal wave of justice with cynojammers and gatecamps.

Remember when BoB said they wouldn't pos-spam? Remember when rent money bought protection? Remember when BoB would come out and fight?

Defense is their best offense, but the difference between BoB and their enemies is that BoB felt entitled to own all of 0.0, and those that fight against BoB know that to own space, you have to fight for it.

What about what will happen when the cyno chains and eye of terror are extended, and everyone that has an axe to grind against BoB is given a highway to fight them? Have you factored that in to your thinking? Because it is happening, and not only are the GBC not stopping it, they are not trying to stop it.

Remember this, when you have assets buried deep in BoB space, they will have theirs safely tucked away in empire, and they will expect you to risk your hard earned gains so they can keep charging you rent. It is never too late to realize you're on the wrong side.

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Originally by: NATMav

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Originally by: Dafuzz

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PS: I miss D2, honorable enemies.

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I miss G.

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Originally by: Ivor Gunn

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You stood firm against bob's push, waiting until they were comfy

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Originally by: Gloomy Gus

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Originally by: Ivor Gunn

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You stood firm against bob's push, waiting until they were comfy

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We gritted our teeth at first, it was rougher than we'd anticipated and we really hadn't expected them to come from that direction. Slowly however over time we came to welcome the new sensations of our defenses' being penetrated so deeply. Their titans were then unstoppable and we were battered over and over, their fleets moving in and out of our borders at will. After a while we got used to the rhythm of things, and begin to move our fleets to take advantage of the friction and indeed groove with the flow.

You can only fire a doomsday so often however, and between shots there's plenty of time to recover and heal. After Bein Glorious' long boring treatise their titans became limp and pretty soon the pillar of their fleet was flaccid. After the violent end of one such pillar this threat became soft and they seemed far less eager than in the past. Slowly the lumbering armies turned around, and as soon as the RSF had their hands on the shoulders of the GBC things began moving in the other direction.

While the Russians and their massive titans began breaking down BoB's brittle internal barriers, the TCF and Goons and all of their other allies begin filling all other available holes in the GBC's defenses. BoB's cries slowly became more and more muffled as they lost traction under the press of so many eager participants, and their mouthpieces were chocked off with the flood of fofofo until only an occasional pained gasp could be heard on CAOD.

Now their forces huddle broken and bleeding on the cold tile floor of the shower that is Delve, clutching themselves and wondering who to blame and why this happened to them. Had they been too provocative? Was it the armor of their ships, did it not cover enough therefore inviting others to take advantage? Would things have been different if they hadn't been walking in 0.0 after dark?

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Originally by: Gloomy Gus

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Originally by: Ivor Gunn

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You stood firm against bob's push, waiting until they were comfy

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We gritted our teeth at first, it was rougher than we'd anticipated and we really hadn't expected them to come from that direction. Slowly however over time we came to welcome the new sensations of our defenses' being penetrated so deeply. Their titans were then unstoppable and we were battered over and over, their fleets moving in and out of our borders at will. After a while we got used to the rhythm of things, and begin to move our fleets to take advantage of the friction and indeed groove with the flow.

You can only fire a doomsday so often however, and between shots there's plenty of time to recover and heal. After Bein Glorious' long boring treatise their titans became limp and pretty soon the pillar of their fleet was flaccid. After the violent end of one such pillar this threat became soft and they seemed far less eager than in the past. Slowly the lumbering armies turned around, and as soon as the RSF had their hands on the shoulders of the GBC things began moving in the other direction.

While the Russians and their massive titans began breaking down BoB's brittle internal barriers, the TCF and Goons and all of their other allies begin filling all other available holes in the GBC's defenses. BoB's cries slowly became more and more muffled as they lost traction under the press of so many eager participants, and their mouthpieces were chocked off with the flood of fofofo until only an occasional pained gasp could be heard on CAOD.

Now their forces huddle broken and bleeding on the cold tile floor of the shower that is Delve, clutching themselves and wondering who to blame and why this happened to them. Had they been too provocative? Was it the armor of their ships, did it not cover enough therefore inviting others to take advantage? Would things have been different if they hadn't been walking in 0.0 after dark?

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Originally by: Dylan Rhade

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In real warfare, purely defensive is never a good tactic for the obvious reasons.

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Originally by: Gloomy Gus

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Originally by: Ivor Gunn

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You stood firm against bob's push, waiting until they were comfy

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We gritted our teeth at first, it was rougher than we'd anticipated and we really hadn't expected them to come from that direction. Slowly however over time we came to welcome the new sensations of our defenses' being penetrated so deeply. Their titans were then unstoppable and we were battered over and over, their fleets moving in and out of our borders at will. After a while we got used to the rhythm of things, and begin to move our fleets to take advantage of the friction and indeed groove with the flow.

You can only fire a doomsday so often however, and between shots there's plenty of time to recover and heal. After Bein Glorious' long boring treatise their titans became limp and pretty soon the pillar of their fleet was flaccid. After the violent end of one such pillar this threat became soft and they seemed far less eager than in the past. Slowly the lumbering armies turned around, and as soon as the RSF had their hands on the shoulders of the GBC things began moving in the other direction.

While the Russians and their massive titans began breaking down BoB's brittle internal barriers, the TCF and Goons and all of their other allies begin filling all other available holes in the GBC's defenses. BoB's cries slowly became more and more muffled as they lost traction under the press of so many eager participants, and their mouthpieces were chocked off with the flood of fofofo until only an occasional pained gasp could be heard on CAOD.

Now their forces huddle broken and bleeding on the cold tile floor of the shower that is Delve, clutching themselves and wondering who to blame and why this happened to them. Had they been too provocative? Was it the armor of their ships, did it not cover enough therefore inviting others to take advantage? Would things have been different if they hadn't been walking in 0.0 after dark?

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Originally by: Gloomy Gus

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Originally by: Ivor Gunn

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You stood firm against bob's push, waiting until they were comfy

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We gritted our teeth at first, it was rougher than we'd anticipated and we really hadn't expected them to come from that direction. Slowly however over time we came to welcome the new sensations of our defenses' being penetrated so deeply. Their titans were then unstoppable and we were battered over and over, their fleets moving in and out of our borders at will. After a while we got used to the rhythm of things, and begin to move our fleets to take advantage of the friction and indeed groove with the flow.

You can only fire a doomsday so often however, and between shots there's plenty of time to recover and heal. After Bein Glorious' long boring treatise their titans became limp and pretty soon the pillar of their fleet was flaccid. After the violent end of one such pillar this threat became soft and they seemed far less eager than in the past. Slowly the lumbering armies turned around, and as soon as the RSF had their hands on the shoulders of the GBC things began moving in the other direction.

While the Russians and their massive titans began breaking down BoB's brittle internal barriers, the TCF and Goons and all of their other allies begin filling all other available holes in the GBC's defenses. BoB's cries slowly became more and more muffled as they lost traction under the press of so many eager participants, and their mouthpieces were chocked off with the flood of fofofo until only an occasional pained gasp could be heard on CAOD.

Now their forces huddle broken and bleeding on the cold tile floor of the shower that is Delve, clutching themselves and wondering who to blame and why this happened to them. Had they been too provocative? Was it the armor of their ships, did it not cover enough therefore inviting others to take advantage? Would things have been different if they hadn't been walking in 0.0 after dark?

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Originally by: Bran Stormer

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That sounds a lot like my marriage

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Originally by: Steel Catrat

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But what are you going to do now? IÆm sure that even you know that one of the first rules of engagement is that you cannot win a battle by simply defending, so there must be more on your agenda here.

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Originally by: Steel Catrat

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But what are you going to do now? IÆm sure that even you know that one of the first rules of engagement is that you cannot win a battle by simply defending, so there must be more on your agenda here.

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Originally by: Karunel

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YouWhat was fine

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