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HarryManback
Minmatar
Gr0und Zer0
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Posted - 2007.11.19 21:39:00 -
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Please don't nerf the carrier. And if you are going to do it take away its other abilities other than the jump drive and its bandwidth. Why are we calling it a Carrier when it can't even use more drones then the average ship.
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Waxau
Mortis Angelus
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.11.19 23:10:00 -
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 Originally by: HarryManback
Please don't nerf the carrier. And if you are going to do it take away its other abilities other than the jump drive and its bandwidth. Why are we calling it a Carrier when it can't even use more drones then the average ship.
Theres pleanty other threads - Why dont you just bump one of those, rather than creating a new thread, with no major points of arguement, and just a repetition of many other threads?
Think before you talk, and if you're a crazy person....talk before you type. But that thinking part is pretty much the foundation of the idea
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NoNah
Tenth Legion Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.19 23:11:00 -
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Why call it a carrier?
How about for the ability to carry fighters and ships? =)
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ShadowlordUK
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Posted - 2007.11.19 23:15:00 -
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Anybody who is remotely decent in a carrier should know that this 'nerf' has no affect on how you should be flying it.
If you intend to, or even worse, are currently using your carrier in pvp and think that this is a nerf that will reduce your combat ability I highly recommend you ask a more experienced carrier pilot for some tips before you either lose your ship, or more likely just suck at supporting your fleet.
The only nerf is to solo ratters..... well I can live without solo ratting in a carrier. 
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OOOSOOO
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.11.19 23:25:00 -
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I am still enjoying the use of my dictionary. I know, EVE shouldn't be compared to real life, but hey, they named it a 'carrier'. They could have named it something else but didn't.
Carrier
# someone whose employment involves carrying something; "the bonds were transmitted by carrier"
# a self-propelled wheeled vehicle designed specifically to carry something; "refrigerated carriers have revolutionized the grocery business"
# aircraft carrier: a large warship that carries planes and has a long flat deck for takeoffs and landings
# an inactive substance that is a vehicle for a radioactive tracer of the same substance and that assists in its recovery after some chemical reaction
# a person or firm in the business of transporting people or goods or messages
# carrier wave: a radio wave that can be modulated in order to transmit a signal
# mailman: a man who delivers the mail
# a boy who delivers newspapers
# (medicine) a person (or animal) who has some pathogen to which he is immune but who can pass it on to others
# a rack attached to a vehicle; for carrying luggage or skis or the like
# (genetics) an organism that possesses a recessive gene whose effect is masked by a dominant allele; the associated trait is not apparent but can be passed on to offspring
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Andrew Olaffsen
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Posted - 2007.11.19 23:29:00 -
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I can neither afford nor do I have the skills to fly a carrier...just thought I'd throw that out there...Im bored too
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HarryManback
Minmatar
Gr0und Zer0
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Posted - 2007.11.20 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowlordUK
Anybody who is remotely decent in a carrier should know that this 'nerf' has no affect on how you should be flying it.
If you intend to, or even worse, are currently using your carrier in pvp and think that this is a nerf that will reduce your combat ability I highly recommend you ask a more experienced carrier pilot for some tips before you either lose your ship, or more likely just suck at supporting your fleet.
The only nerf is to solo ratters..... well I can live without solo ratting in a carrier.
one of em idiots who wants people to think he knows what hes talking about. Carriers are sposed to be able to deploy 10 drones (without dcu which is how carriers should be) So taking that away it loses half its damage output, half its drone remote output and half its drone ewar output. Thats a pretty severe nerf my man.
Also I dont want to lend 5 fighters to a friend. They aint cheap you know.
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Shardrael
Caldari
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.20 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowlordUK
Anybody who is remotely decent in a carrier should know that this 'nerf' has no affect on how you should be flying it.
If you intend to, or even worse, are currently using your carrier in pvp and think that this is a nerf that will reduce your combat ability I highly recommend you ask a more experienced carrier pilot for some tips before you either lose your ship, or more likely just suck at supporting your fleet.
The only nerf is to solo ratters..... well I can live without solo ratting in a carrier.
two things: 1.) the way you fly a carrier or know how to fly one does not have to be the only way everyone flies it.
2.)ratters wouldnt be effected in any way as 5 fighters is still enough dps to murder the hardest 0.0 bs spawns faster then they can respawn.
now once again people they have recanted the original nerf and postponed any work on it until after trinity. so lay off the useless threads and wait tell work is being put to this again.
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Compendium
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Posted - 2007.11.20 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: OOOSOOO
I am still enjoying the use of my dictionary. I know, EVE shouldn't be compared to real life, but hey, they named it a 'carrier'. They could have named it something else but didn't.
Carrier
# someone whose employment involves carrying something; "the bonds were transmitted by carrier"
# a self-propelled wheeled vehicle designed specifically to carry something; "refrigerated carriers have revolutionized the grocery business"
# aircraft carrier: a large warship that carries planes and has a long flat deck for takeoffs and landings
# an inactive substance that is a vehicle for a radioactive tracer of the same substance and that assists in its recovery after some chemical reaction
# a person or firm in the business of transporting people or goods or messages
# carrier wave: a radio wave that can be modulated in order to transmit a signal
# mailman: a man who delivers the mail
# a boy who delivers newspapers
# (medicine) a person (or animal) who has some pathogen to which he is immune but who can pass it on to others
# a rack attached to a vehicle; for carrying luggage or skis or the like
# (genetics) an organism that possesses a recessive gene whose effect is masked by a dominant allele; the associated trait is not apparent but can be passed on to offspring
It's definitely a boy who delivers newspapers!
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Atsuko Ratu
Caldari
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2007.11.20 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: HarryManback
Originally by: ShadowlordUK
Anybody who is remotely decent in a carrier should know that this 'nerf' has no affect on how you should be flying it.
If you intend to, or even worse, are currently using your carrier in pvp and think that this is a nerf that will reduce your combat ability I highly recommend you ask a more experienced carrier pilot for some tips before you either lose your ship, or more likely just suck at supporting your fleet.
The only nerf is to solo ratters..... well I can live without solo ratting in a carrier.
one of em idiots who wants people to think he knows what hes talking about. Carriers are sposed to be able to deploy 10 drones (without dcu which is how carriers should be) So taking that away it loses half its damage output, half its drone remote output and half its drone ewar output. Thats a pretty severe nerf my man.
Also I dont want to lend 5 fighters to a friend. They aint cheap you know.
Being used in the correct role = 0% loss in dps post-nerf, reading the dev reports help a lot when you try to argue a point.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.11.20 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: HarryManback
Also I dont want to lend 5 fighters to a friend. They aint cheap you know.
Sounds like that's your issue right there..
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.11.20 05:14:00 -
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its a solo pwnmobile that instead of fullfilling a support role of a fleet, has become what the fleet is comprised of.
They need to be nerfed, for the sake of balance, for the sake that EVE can say new players can 'accomplish' something in pvp, and for the sake of us pilots who refuse to fly those disgusting ISK sinks.
Eat crap, they're getting ****canned.
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Posted - 2007.11.20 06:18:00 -
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Why don't you go write a myrm nerf whine thread about it.
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Andrew Olaffsen
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Posted - 2007.11.20 06:36:00 -
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I think carriers are meant to fill a specific role in ANY game. In most games, movies, etc. they are used to refuel, repair, and resupply fighters and other small ships in order to keep them in the fight. Look at the NAVY's carriers (yes i know its a space game blah blah blah flame flame flame) they have defences yes. anti-incoming missle defences and unbeleivable radar and electronic capabilities. But you will NEVER see a carrier by itself. They always travel with support craft. Even when you think yuo see a crrier by itself...its not. Under the water theres always a sub or two. (or 6) The main punch and ass-whoopery that comes from a carrier is the fighters. the problem here is that frigates almost never need to be resupplyed with ammo unless the pilots and idiot, never need refueling, and repair can be done by themselves or by various other means. Yes ok the carrier has fighters...but they are little more than uber drones. The carrier is meant to fill a logistical and tactical void that in this game...isnt there. Its hard to use something in a role its intended for when the role doesnt exist in the first place.
Im prepared to be flamed ...or pwned or whatever...
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Draconus Lofwyr
Eternal Guardians Corp.
The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.20 19:41:00 -
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If CCP wants the carrier to fulfill a "Specific" role in fleet battle, perhaps they should come out with more Capital ships for Said "Specific" roles.
Is the Carrier/Mothership a fighter platform for damage? is it a Logistics ship for support? is it a armed Hauler?
As a pilot that is days away from flying a Carrier, and have been debating on shifting to a dread, i have a few things to say.
What role does the name Carrier imply? if they are talking a Fleet role, then it should be a fighter platform for damage and not either of the others.
I propose they need to make a few more Capital ships (the Industrial caps are a good start, no more using the carriers to haul for 0.0 Fleet mining ops in a carrier)
1. Logistics Capital Ship : smaller than a dread, a bit faster, only can fit up to large guns, no capital guns, and only for self defense. Move all the logistics abilities of the Carrier to this class
2. Support Maintenance Capital: falls into the industrial catagory, no guns, has the ship arrays, and a area affect shield module like a pos, but uses power and fuel to maintain and can not be activated within 1000k of any solar objects ( planets, moons, asteroid belts, gates) reduce the carrier ship hold so it can only hold smaller ships for fighter delagation if need be.
3. Carrier changes : since these ships are now to be only drone boats, minimize the effect of sensor jamming to a certain level. Consider it a plan during construction that they felt locking and drone control is so critical to operations that they hardened the targeting and control systems against jamming, warp and propulsion systems are still normal so as to make them at least tackleable.
if you wish fighters to be deployable as a main line of defense, then either make them cheaper and easier to control, or allow the carrier to still depoy a full arsenal of lesser drones (sentry's and below for self defense)
Just my 2k isk.
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Andrew Olaffsen
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Posted - 2007.11.21 04:37:00 -
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instead of more super ships only thig corps and such can afford...why not more lower and mid range ships.
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Atsuko Ratu
Caldari
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2007.11.21 04:55:00 -
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They specifically declared the "new" carrier's role in the original dev blog. Less direct DPS (shock; 0% decrease in max dps), and more support (IE, giving drones to others and repping people).
Although the "fighters get lost when allied ship dies" was pretty stupid, otherwise the fix to carriers was perfect.
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Hulkon
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Posted - 2007.11.21 05:06:00 -
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Here's the dealio, I'll spread it flat for you like bread n butter. Stop spamming the forums because no one gives a **** especially the people who can do something about it.
Just my 2 isk.
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NoNah
Tenth Legion Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.21 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: OOOSOOO
Generic alt spam
Funny, doesn't mention anything about spaceships in a internet spaceshipgame.
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