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Master Entreri
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.27 17:07:00 -
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It's nice to hear that my guide helped you out. :-)
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Master Entreri
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.29 03:09:00 -
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Bump
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Master Entreri
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.30 07:27:00 -
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Vertex Eisenstein
Gallente
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.30 16:01:00 -
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friendly bump for a corpmate
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Vess Fathick
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Posted - 2007.11.30 18:26:00 -
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As a new player just wanna say thanks!
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Motoroller
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.01 06:43:00 -
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Cheers!
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Master Entreri
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.02 03:58:00 -
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Bump
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Filovirus Marburg
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Posted - 2007.12.02 22:45:00 -
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This is really useful, thanks! The sections on tanking and finding agents were very helpful to me. Good job! |
AulicoLupo
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.03 02:39:00 -
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thanks for time and effort put into this, it really helps
Live in the present, remember the past, and fear not the future, for it doesn't exist and never shall, there is only the now - christopher paolin |
Master Entreri
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.03 18:36:00 -
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You're welcome! Happy to help :-)
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manasi
Caldari
Valhalla Navy Technical Institute
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Posted - 2007.12.03 20:02:00 -
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Very nice, non-technical guide, well written and thoughtful.
:)
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Master Entreri
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.04 23:34:00 -
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:-) Thanks!
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ZarZak Dlynthis
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Posted - 2007.12.07 22:25:00 -
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Thanks! I just downloaded the free trial last night, and was reading over this guide today - exactly what I needed! Non-technical for a totally new player like me. :)
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Gerry Viking
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Posted - 2007.12.08 10:07:00 -
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@Master Entreri
Thank you for the efforts making the guide
Per ardua ad astra
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Tyler Rainez
Gallente
Fallen Kings Inc
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Posted - 2007.12.08 19:58:00 -
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Well done! I've been playing almost a year (has been that long already?  ) I wish I had this guide when I started would have saved me alot headaches about low-sec. Excellent job.
I only have two things in this world, my word and my balls and I don't break'em for nobody! -- Tony Montana |
Master Entreri
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.10 16:37:00 -
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Thanks, its great to hear that even non new players liked the guide!
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Barashi Nugan
Gallente
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:48:00 -
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Good guide.
Only issue I have is with the comments on the starting attributes.
Maybe I'm misreading it (I'm still trying to shake off the weekend), but it seems as if you suggest adding more points to the attributes that you already get bonuses for from your bloodline. As in adding more to perception and willpower when you already have a decent amount of both, and neglecting the other attributes. Is that correct? Or is it the other way around?
I'd suggest trying to keep your attributes fairly even, but that's just my .02 isk.
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Panch0Villa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:57:00 -
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It seems to explain the importance of the attributes, but doesn't specifically advise what to get.
Basically a blanket statement of "balanced attributes" would be best for pretty much everyone's first character. Someone who's been around for a bit would know what they need to get a decent purpose-designed alt, as well as the up/downsides, IMO. Ofc CHA gets no love, but that's ok, it's not really that important unless you have a big corp CEO or Commandship pilot anyways. Then again, if you do, you could probably write a newb guide as well.
Props on the guide, many faq's answered in here. 
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Master Entreri
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.10 21:10:00 -
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I do understand the point you guys are making. But on the other hand the start of the guide did say that some people would disagree with some of my suggestions.
But, since you do raise a valid point I will add a notation mentioning that there are people who prefer a balanced attribute setup. I personally do not, I use a setup that is highly biased toward Intel/Memory.
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Panch0Villa
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.10 21:21:00 -
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It is debateable, but IMO the first character is usually going to be the broadest character anyone makes. In the case of industry characters, perception/willpower translates into shorter learn times for mining barge V, Industrial ship V, and Transport ships. These skills are pretty important, and of course, take a long time. If people are okay training them out to 30+ days, that's their choice I suppose.
The concern I suppose would be the long term plans. Industry types focus on refining and ore-specific processing skills, and apart from the above-mentioned ship skills don't really need PERC/WILL. It's negligible, but for long term, say capital ships, you are looking at 4 or 5 skills at V, minimum.
I can see why it's hard to dispense advice about this, and I can't blame you.
Still, good place for many to start, gj Master Entreri.
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Cyntha Kite
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Posted - 2007.12.11 06:22:00 -
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Very nice guide, Master Entreri. I'm just making the transition from trial to permanent account, and I enjoyed reading your material. You offer a new perspective on a few issues I'd already been thinking about, and a preview of others that I hadn't yet considered. Thanks for the time and effort than went into creating this guide!
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Agga Memnon
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Posted - 2007.12.11 11:40:00 -
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Many thanks.
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Master Entreri
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.12 05:46:00 -
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Many welcomes to both of you :-)
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Tennar Aragil
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Posted - 2007.12.12 10:28:00 -
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Thank you for the guide!
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ZerKar
Caldari
Zen'Tar
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Posted - 2007.12.12 10:29:00 -
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You mention the Caldari are good for PVE. Just to clarify for the new players that is because the NPC's do not run from battle so Shield Tanking, 0 Electronic Warfare, and Long Range Combat with Missiles (As the NPCs often prefer close range weapons) tends to be a good mixture. However, Gallente can do this just as well as the Caldari.
On the other hand however, the Caldari are very poor for PvP due largely to having the slowest ships in the game. As one might expect, being unable to keep distance with an enemy (close or far) will ultimately lead to your defeat. Missiles while variable in Damage are not very powerful in their Rate of Fire which leaves their DPS low. Furthermore, Real Player threats will attempt to escape if they are weak enough and you will need at least 3 Medium slots dedicated to preventing this. With that in mind your ability to Tank with your Shields who's modules all exist on the same level is gimped. Meaning if you wish to successfuly PvP you will either need someone else to Lock your Enemy in Place or will suffer a Lack of Staying Power in your own right. You could choose to Armor Tank SOME Caldari ships and succeed but it is the exception not the rule.
Caldari Ships also have relatively low Power Grids but high CPU meaning they equip Missiles and Electronic Warfar well but Turret Based Weaponry poorly.
So be advised, though the beginning information in-game would suggest them as a powerful military force they are not. Think of them more as just elite Industrailists who can specailize in Black Ops warfare but not in actual killing. However, you can always BE Caldari and train the other Race's ships, it takes time so it is best to start right off if that is your desire.
If you are looking to be the one to actually kill things in PvP your best bet is Gallente are their Drones share the missile ability to Choose Damage type but are more effective and do not put any taxation upon your Ship's Ability to fit Modules. They also can move a bit faster, can handle some E-War, and Armor Tank VERY well if set up correctly.
Minmatar are another fine choice. Very fast, thus able to pick their ranges very well. Their ability to absorb damage is lacking but they can move fast enough and generally hit hard enough to make up for this failing. However, flying Matari is a lot of work, but thrilling and exciting, so if you are not one who likes to make split second decisions and be on the ball hardcore in a fight they may be a bit too stressful for you.
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I saw the Sign...!
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Master Entreri
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.13 05:43:00 -
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Thank you for that add on. If I had thought more and reserved a space for further editing I would add that into the guide. :-)
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Master Entreri
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.13 16:52:00 -
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:-)
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Teki
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Posted - 2007.12.15 02:40:00 -
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thanks for this guide, it's very helpful
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Melkaar
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Posted - 2007.12.15 06:47:00 -
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thanks for the help!
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Transplatin
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Posted - 2007.12.16 20:13:00 -
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Is there a way to print this or a printable version somewhere?
I'm finding LOTS of excellent guides in the forums. Too bad they don't have permanent stickies or .doc versions.
Great work!
Transplatin
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