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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2012.01.31 06:20:00 -
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Alcohol consumption from around the world.
Very interesting little chart. Some country's stats didn't really surprise me. Others made me do a double take. And some made me flat out question the accuracy of the data (Iceland, Japan... I thought you'd be heavier drinkers!!)
"Just because I seem like an idiot, doesn't mean I am one."
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2012.01.31 06:24:00 -
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I have a wee bit of the consumption 
*Edit: What the hell, America? You're getting your ass kicked by France!  |
Spineker
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Posted - 2012.01.31 06:24:00 -
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That is interesting I figured USA to be far higher. I thought Japan drank more, France was not #1 for wine though. |
Spineker
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Posted - 2012.01.31 06:25:00 -
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I love wine by the way. Good warm buzz! Second best is Rum. |
Spineker
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Posted - 2012.01.31 06:26:00 -
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S. Korea like the hard stuff  |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.31 09:23:00 -
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Its quite interesting how humanity has taken to this poison that is killing our brains. |
Squidgey
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.31 16:35:00 -
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Sidus Isaacs wrote:Its quite interesting how humanity has taken to this poison that is killing our brains.
Alcohol has been around since before civilization.
In fact (according to the Discovery channel special on beer), beer (alcohol) was the single most important thing that caused people to settle in one place and develop societies as we know it today. The written language (again according to theory) came about purely as a need to record the sales of BEER.
So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Human history, civil evolution, and alcohol will forever be linked. And in moderation causes very little harm. |
Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.31 17:40:00 -
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Squidgey wrote:Sidus Isaacs wrote:Its quite interesting how humanity has taken to this poison that is killing our brains. Alcohol has been around since before civilization. In fact (according to the Discovery channel special on beer), beer (alcohol) was the single most important thing that caused people to settle in one place and develop societies as we know it today. The written language (again according to theory) came about purely as a need to record the sales of BEER. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Human history, civil evolution, and alcohol will forever be linked. And in moderation causes very little harm.
Yeah not to mention that the poison wine:
Reduces cholesterol
Maintains the immune system
Reduces coronary heart disease
Is loaded with antioxidants
But when you think about it, wine is merely fermented grape juice. Just like with beer which is made with wheat, barley, and water, many of the same ingredients that you find in bread. It's not the drink that is poison, it's the users rate of consumption. |
Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2012.01.31 17:44:00 -
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Squidgey wrote:
In fact (according to the Discovery channel special on beer), beer (alcohol) was the single most important thing that caused people to settle in one place and develop societies as we know it today. The written language (again according to theory) came about purely as a need to record the sales of BEER.
Not to disagree, though it does make me wonder what accident lead to beer. Did some one have a clay pot full of grain, it rained, filled the pot. Someone forgot about it for a few days, then after it sat and started to stink someone said, "Hey, Let's drink that!" and they refined the process of how to make rotten grain, dirty water and yeast farts palatable.
I've similar questions about cheese, mmm rotten milk lumps, yum! |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.01.31 18:21:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Squidgey wrote:Sidus Isaacs wrote:Its quite interesting how humanity has taken to this poison that is killing our brains. Alcohol has been around since before civilization. In fact (according to the Discovery channel special on beer), beer (alcohol) was the single most important thing that caused people to settle in one place and develop societies as we know it today. The written language (again according to theory) came about purely as a need to record the sales of BEER. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Human history, civil evolution, and alcohol will forever be linked. And in moderation causes very little harm. Yeah not to mention that the poison wine: Reduces cholesterol Maintains the immune system Reduces coronary heart disease Is loaded with antioxidants But when you think about it, wine is merely fermented grape juice. Just like with beer which is made with wheat, barley, and water, many of the same ingredients that you find in bread. It's not the drink that is poison, it's the users rate of consumption.
indeed, if drank in moderation, wine is actually quite healthy. A glass of red wine by lunch is quite healthy and many people recommend it.
I myself prefer green wine, but that's personal taste.
beer doesn't increase cholesterol or makes you fat btw, it's more the appetizers you eat with it. at most beer causes expanded bladder.
quite interesting that my country is n-¦3 for wine consumption btw. thought we would be lower.
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Squidgey
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.31 19:12:00 -
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Exactly, beer actually helped me lose a decent amount of weight. Instead of getting up and buying fast food, or snacking... whenever I got hungry at home I drank a beer.
Just one mind you.
Lost 15 lbs in a couple months. |
Shalia Ripper
The Elevens
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Posted - 2012.01.31 19:40:00 -
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The French are drinking all of our Jack Daniels.
This travesty must be stopped. |
Dowla Daupor
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Posted - 2012.01.31 19:55:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I have a wee bit of the consumption *Edit: What the hell, America? You're getting your ass kicked by France!
We have Mormons and ****** addicts dulling our numbers. |
Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.01.31 20:00:00 -
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Dowla Daupor wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I have a wee bit of the consumption *Edit: What the hell, America? You're getting your ass kicked by France! We have Mormons and ****** addicts dulling our numbers.
It's partly my fault as well. America used to be five places higher about 6-7 years ago but then I decided to dry up. |
jason hill
The Riot Formation
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2012.01.31 21:26:00 -
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i think the only thing thats really shocked me is that this country actually exists ! i must confess I had never heard of it |
SpaceSquirrels
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:30:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Squidgey wrote:Sidus Isaacs wrote:Its quite interesting how humanity has taken to this poison that is killing our brains. Alcohol has been around since before civilization. In fact (according to the Discovery channel special on beer), beer (alcohol) was the single most important thing that caused people to settle in one place and develop societies as we know it today. The written language (again according to theory) came about purely as a need to record the sales of BEER. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Human history, civil evolution, and alcohol will forever be linked. And in moderation causes very little harm. Yeah not to mention that the poison wine: Reduces cholesterol Maintains the immune system Reduces coronary heart disease Is loaded with antioxidants But when you think about it, wine is merely fermented grape juice. Just like with beer which is made with wheat, barley, and water, many of the same ingredients that you find in bread. It's not the drink that is poison, it's the users rate of consumption.
You know that guy just got accused of falsifying data? Fact is grapes do the same thing...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085609/Researcher-working-benefits-red-wine-falsified-data-100-times.html
YAY USA not the number 1 alcoholics! This is what happens when you sell alcohol to 14 year olds... You got to make em earn it as a right of passage! Don't just let em buy it!
Damned if you didnt have to sneak it out your parents supply or find someone with a brother or sister that was 21. Also run like hell when the cops came cause you were underage. |
SpaceSquirrels
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:31:00 -
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jason hill wrote:i think the only thing thats really shocked me is that this country actually exists ! i must confess I had never heard of it
Hmm I have but then again we have a base there for most Africa operations in the region. (I believe it's actually French we just freeload) |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:20:00 -
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Squidgey wrote:Sidus Isaacs wrote:Its quite interesting how humanity has taken to this poison that is killing our brains. Alcohol has been around since before civilization. In fact (according to the Discovery channel special on beer), beer (alcohol) was the single most important thing that caused people to settle in one place and develop societies as we know it today. The written language (again according to theory) came about purely as a need to record the sales of BEER. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it. Human history, civil evolution, and alcohol will forever be linked. And in moderation causes very little harm.
Your point?
I still find it quite interesting how we have all taken to this poison.
Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Reduces cholesterol
Maintains the immune system
Reduces coronary heart disease
Is loaded with antioxidants
Surely, you do not think wine and alcoholic drinks is the only source of this?
I take the occasional whiskey myself, or occasional beer/wine to my dinner. But alcohol is still a poison. As such I have made a conscious effort to reduce my intake these last years. I really have no need to be drunk, and much prefer to have my mind clear. So a glass of wine to my Sunday dinner, or a beer a Saturday afternoon while out with some friends is just dandy (but I tend to keep it to just one or two beers). I do not blame others if they want to drink as much as they want, they are free to do so as far as I see.
Still, it is curious that alcohol is a legal substance in our society, and so many other substances are not while it is clear that alcohol is more dangerous the some of them. |
Brisco County
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.02.01 07:06:00 -
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Shalia Ripper wrote:The French are drinking all of our Jack Daniels.
This travesty must be stopped.
That's quite okay, because the Irish and those floppy-headed Canadians are sending us much better whiskey. |
Ryoko Matsu
Community against Justice
ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2012.02.01 14:30:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Alcohol consumption from around the world.Very interesting little chart. Some country's stats didn't really surprise me. Others made me do a double take. And some made me flat out question the accuracy of the data (Iceland, Japan... I thought you'd be heavier drinkers!!)
\o/ as polish/austrian i seem to be in good company...nearly everywhere under the top ten  |
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.01 15:22:00 -
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Sidus Isaacs wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Reduces cholesterol
Maintains the immune system
Reduces coronary heart disease
Is loaded with antioxidants
Surely, you do not think wine and alcoholic drinks is the only source of this?
No and I thought I had already pointed that out. Wine is simply a fermented grape drink. You could go to aisle 6 and pick up a jug of Welch's and get the same effects. This is because the ingredient Grape, is the catalyst in providing the items listed above (which of course grapes can be found in produce)
Sidus Isaacs wrote:I take the occasional whiskey myself, or occasional beer/wine to my dinner. But alcohol is still a poison. As such I have made a conscious effort to reduce my intake these last years. I really have no need to be drunk, and much prefer to have my mind clear. So a glass of wine to my Sunday dinner, or a beer a Saturday afternoon while out with some friends is just dandy (but I tend to keep it to just one or two beers). I do not blame others if they want to drink as much as they want, they are free to do so as far as I see.
This is exactly what I explained in my previous post. The poison is not the drink, it is the user's inhibitions. Alcohol in excessive amounts does cause damage. It is the who user controls the amounts that they consume. In small amounts, such as your one beer or wine for dinner, is easily manageable by your liver, and thus isn't dangerous (Unless you learn that you're allergic to yeast).
I have the same argument with people who try to tell me that guns are dangerous. A gun is an inanimate object. It is neither neither dangerous or safe. It is the user who equips it that determines if the gun is dangerous or safe. And it is the user who picks up the drink who determines if it is dangerous or safe.
The poison is in your head. I know it was certainly in mine for some 6 years but I took control of it and can now enjoy the occasional drink, such as yourself, without causing physical or mental harm to myself.
Sidus Isaacs wrote:Still, it is curious that alcohol is a legal substance in our society, and so many other substances are not while it is clear that alcohol is more dangerous the some of them.
Your answer can be found by googling the word prohibition. |
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2012.02.01 22:47:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:
Your answer can be found by googling the word prohibition.
I was hinting at the fact that a lot more substances should be legal. I see no reason why the state should tell me what to do and not to do to my own body. :)
So I am really curious as to why people still let the state boss them around. Not in the way that one person might try and stand up alone, but in general, why we the population lets us be dictated to be a few.
As for alcohol, it does have some physical effects as well, that is not good for you. But in moderation its is almost negligible. :) Of course the addiction is another thing as well. |
SpaceSquirrels
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Posted - 2012.02.01 23:56:00 -
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^
Start the revolution then chief. Why do you follow the rules? If you didn't I would assume you'd be living in the mountains or in jail. |
Sandslinger
NorCorp Enterprise
No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2012.02.02 09:01:00 -
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@ OP
These Stats are imaginary based on legal sales, where in the behjesus is that unrecorded number coming from ???????.
What you find in a lot of these countries is that making your own alcohol (beer/wine and illegal Moonshine 96%)
Is more common then purchasing it.
Three factors seem to play into this.
Nr 1 is were poverty makes this the only method of aquiring the alcohol. Russia, Eastern Europe.
Nr 2 Is simply cultural history of brewing moonshine and such (northern europe - some places in US retains this culture too i believe too (US person can maybe confirm if this is a stereotype or still a fact)
Nr 3 which seems to take over where nr 2 might have died out naturally is where the government tries to tries to kerb alcohol consumption by taxation and retarding laws. This is especially the case in Northern Europe (norway/iceland/finland)
When it all comes down to it the damaging effects of alcohol is not always directly correlated to the amount of consumption (taking europe as an example)
France and Spain aren't far off percentile wise off the UK in consumption however, where the UK has binge drinking, with mass spikes in alcohol related violence and illness every weekend more or less unmatched in the rest of europe.
France and Spain has a healthier relationship to alcohol based on a regular (daily) yet lower consumption each time alcohol is consumed.
This is the way a doctor will encourage you to drink. 6 Units a week is fine spread over a week it is NOT fine, healthwise consumed within one happy hour at the bar 
Glad someone brought up the prohibition earlier. Norway is such a good example of government policy of "prohibition" going **** up. the more expensive and difficult they make it to aquire alcohol the more the sale of illegal alcohol increased. to the point where there was several years in a row, there was more deaths from badly distilled (methanol laced) russian black market moonshine then any other drug combined
in 16 years in the UK I never saw or heard of anyone distilling their own spirits in 2 years back in Norway I know at least one or two in every circle of friends I have who distill their own moonshine and dish it out to everyone.
I know It looks like I argued that alcohol is bad above, but I am actually for the government removing all drug related policies.
It is much more effective where the government by positive reinforcement spends money on making leisure activities available that do not work combine with alcohol (sports and such) then spending the money on trying to stop people doing what they will always find a way to do anyways. |
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