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judes23
Border Patrol Infinite Innovation
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Posted - 2007.11.22 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: judes23 on 22/11/2007 21:28:07 hey guys, i am in need of a set up for this beast in PvE..any help is awesome -----------------------------------
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insidion
Caldari Last of the Technocracy
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Posted - 2007.11.22 21:53:00 -
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Pretty curious about this ship myself. Not sure why I want one so bad, but when trying to look into setups for it, was pretty surprised to see '[No Setup On Record; Start A New Thread Or Try Eve-Search]' for it on the ship setups list. =)
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judes23
Border Patrol Infinite Innovation
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Posted - 2007.11.22 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: judes23 on 22/11/2007 22:18:07 ya i was like...aww man i really want to set this bad boy up! well, lets see what comes up in the furture -----------------------------------
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Kiviar
Caldari Vice-Presidential Action Rangers
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Posted - 2007.11.22 22:33:00 -
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the navy apoc is completley outclassed by the abaddon iirc. However if you want to fit out one there is always EFT. ---
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Deva Blackfire
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.22 22:48:00 -
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I'd say same as apoc plus heatsink.
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Merii Kha'sen
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.11.22 23:27:00 -
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Edited by: Merii Kha''sen on 22/11/2007 23:27:22 2x Large Armor Repairer II 2x 16cpu Armor <dmg type 1> Hardener (Amarr navy, shadow serpentis, etc) 2x 16cpu Armor <dmg type 2> Hardener (Amarr navy, shadow serpentis, etc) Power Diagnostic System II Heat Sink II
4x Cap Recharger II
8x Mega Pulse Laser II
Semiconductor Memory Cell I 2x Auxiliary Nano Pump I
5x med drones for frigs/inties 5x light drones for lulz
Tanks approx 1k-1.4k (depending on dmg types) for 7-10 minutes with both reppers going and faction Standard crystals. Entirely cap stable with 1 repper.
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Holy Hammer
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Posted - 2007.11.23 06:02:00 -
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I have 2 setups for the navy issue, they are fairly similar. both can solo lvl 4 missions.
For the easy lvl 4's its best to go with-
highs- 8 amarr navy mega pulse lasers, standard crystals. Meds- Tracking computer, stasis webifier, 2 cap recharger 2's lows- 4 tech 2 missions specific hardeners, damage control 2, 1600MM rolled tungsten, Tracking enhancer 2, Large armor rep 2 everything runs forever with this setup.
For the really hard lvl 4 missions drop the tracking enhancer from the low and use another Large armor rep. From the meds drop the tracking computer and the webfier and replace with 2 more cap rechargers, everything runs for a real long time.
rigs for both setups are 2 cap control circuits and an Auxiliary nano pump.
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Asania Dre
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Posted - 2007.11.23 09:33:00 -
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For all Sansha / Blood missions, I use:
Amarr Navy Armor EM Hardener Amarr Navy Armor Thermic Hardener Amarr Navy Armor Thermic Hardener Amarr Navy Large Armor Repairer Tracking Enhancer II Amarr Navy Heat Sink Amarr Navy Heat Sink Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Tracking Computer II or ABII or Web Tracking Computer II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
Mega Pulse Laser II Mega Pulse Laser II Mega Pulse Laser II Mega Pulse Laser II Mega Pulse Laser II Mega Pulse Laser II Mega Pulse Laser II Mega Pulse Laser II
Energy Locus Coordinator I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
There are quite a few mission that this can't tank a spawn in, but it'll melt the rats fast enough to bring the damage down to tankable levels.
It has an optimal with Standard crystals of around 45km, so there's no real need to use Scorch crystals. With Amarr Navy Multifrequency and a couple of implants it gets close to 1k dps (little over 1k with all skills at lvl 5).
I prefer this to the Abaddon, as the extra cap allows you to fit all the extra damage / tracking mods. An Abaddon pretty much requires a cap injector if you want to fit this much gank on it. I prefer not to use a cap injector on a mission ship.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2007.11.23 10:29:00 -
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You have four range extending mods/rigs, surely these are stacking nerfed? Seems a bit of a waste having that rig there, if you use 3 mods for the same attribute. Even having just the rig + 2 mods would make me look for other rigs to put on.
That is, unless the range extension is not stacking nerfed?
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Kay Rissa
Russian Thunder Squad Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.11.23 11:11:00 -
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i would use this setup against sanshas/blood
8 x Mega Pulse Laser II
4 x Cap Recharger II or 3 x cap recharger + afterburner
Amarr Navy Armor EM Hardener Amarr Navy Armor Thermic Hardener Amarr Navy Armor Thermic Hardener 2 x Amarr Navy Large Armor Repairer 3 x Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Rigs : 3 x Capacitor Control Circuit I 5 Hammerhead II
Proud member of RTSQ
ps: i dont like to kill innocent ppl, so if i killed u, u rnt innocent
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.11.23 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon You have four range extending mods/rigs, surely these are stacking nerfed? Seems a bit of a waste having that rig there, if you use 3 mods for the same attribute. Even having just the rig + 2 mods would make me look for other rigs to put on.
That is, unless the range extension is not stacking nerfed?
If i remember correctly those rigs are only stacking nerfed among themselves and not with the modules.
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Velice
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Posted - 2007.11.23 11:20:00 -
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If you are looking for a faction BS to run missions, money shouldn't be a problem for you.
It's shield tanked because 1) navy apoc doesn't have any armor bonuses 2) 4 med slots is enough for shield tank 2) you don't need EW on missions 4) you can't fit full rack of tachyons and armor tank at the same time 5) this shield tank is permarun
Why not megapulses? Well, not dmg bonuses on this ship, you need to compensate it with heavier weaponry. And navy apoc perhaps is THE only ship in this game atm that can successfuly fit tachs and run them cap stable, so why not.
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System True Sansha Power Diagnostic System True Sansha Power Diagnostic System Capacitor Flux Coil II Co-Processor I Amarr Navy Heat Sink Amarr Navy Heat Sink Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Ballistic Deflection Field
Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser
Capacitor Control Circuit II Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
2xheavy webifier drones 5xhobgoblins
This setup can permarun forever. Happy missioning.
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.11.23 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Velice If you are looking for a faction BS to run missions, money shouldn't be a problem for you.
It's shield tanked because 1) navy apoc doesn't have any armor bonuses 2) 4 med slots is enough for shield tank 2) you don't need EW on missions 4) you can't fit full rack of tachyons and armor tank at the same time 5) this shield tank is permarun
Why not megapulses? Well, not dmg bonuses on this ship, you need to compensate it with heavier weaponry. And navy apoc perhaps is THE only ship in this game atm that can successfuly fit tachs and run them cap stable, so why not.
True Sansha Power Diagnostic System True Sansha Power Diagnostic System True Sansha Power Diagnostic System Capacitor Flux Coil II Co-Processor I Amarr Navy Heat Sink Amarr Navy Heat Sink Amarr Navy Heat Sink
Gist C-Type X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Ballistic Deflection Field
Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser Amarr Navy Tachyon Beam Laser
Capacitor Control Circuit II Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
2xheavy webifier drones 5xhobgoblins
This setup can permarun forever. Happy missioning.
I think you should try the new nightmare, im 100% sure you will like that ship.  _________________________________________________ Breetime
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Velice
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Posted - 2007.11.23 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
I think you should try the new nightmare, im 100% sure you will like that ship.
1) there is no new nightmare yet 2) the topic was about navy apoc 3) and yes, the nightmare will be the best laser boat :)
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Layla Ashley
Amarr Children of Avalon Avateas Blessed
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Posted - 2007.11.23 15:52:00 -
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i never regretted switching from navy apoc to abbadon for missions. same mean tank but kills alot faster
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Mastin Dragonfly
Bloodthorn Voyages
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Posted - 2007.11.23 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Merii Kha'sen Edited by: Merii Kha''sen on 22/11/2007 23:27:22 2x Large Armor Repairer II 2x 16cpu Armor <dmg type 1> Hardener (Amarr navy, shadow serpentis, etc) 2x 16cpu Armor <dmg type 2> Hardener (Amarr navy, shadow serpentis, etc) Power Diagnostic System II Heat Sink II
4x Cap Recharger II
8x Mega Pulse Laser II
Semiconductor Memory Cell I 2x Auxiliary Nano Pump I
5x med drones for frigs/inties 5x light drones for lulz
Tanks approx 1k-1.4k (depending on dmg types) for 7-10 minutes with both reppers going and faction Standard crystals. Entirely cap stable with 1 repper.
Any setup with less than 3 heatsinks is an insult to the late emperor.
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Chenile
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Posted - 2007.11.23 16:16:00 -
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If you are prepared to spend a bit on fitting out:
8 Megapulse II
1 Core Afterburner 1 True Sansha tracking computer 1 named webifier 1 cap recharger II
1 Large Armour Repairer II or best named 2 Core X rat specific hardeners 1 best named damage control 3 true sansha heat sinks 1 named cap power relay
3 capacitor control circuits
It kills rats so fast the tank is never threatened, on any of the level 4 missions. The only thing I haven't tried with it is the bonus room in Angels Extravaganza.
The best thing from my point of view is that I don't have to change the setup for different missions (apart from the hardeners). And it's got enough cap to run everything but the afterburner indefinitely, and can even sustain the afterburner, guns and rep for long enough.
I've played around with the Abbadon in evefit, but either have to sacrifice heat sinks for cap, or most of the mid slots, which means a less flexible fit.
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Endo Scrote
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Posted - 2007.11.24 07:52:00 -
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Bearing in mind I have really crap gun skills using Artillery cannons 2 capacitor control circuit 1s and a nano repair rig 4 cap rechargers in mids 2 Large Armour Repair T2s will run forever whilst firing and you can have hardeners too best if something like True Sansha as only 16 cpu used
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.24 10:45:00 -
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All pve ships should have at least 3 damage mods.. Sig removed for the third time, inappropriate content. Sig Locked. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes |
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