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Snowcrash Winterheart2 Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.23 11:14:00 - [1] Nope, not a "why does DT last an hour" whine thread :) I'm just curious about what actually happens during DT on the server side (aside from the change window opening). ----- Four paws... four sets of claws.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.11.23 11:17:00 - [2] BoB sneak on to the server and farm officer spawns. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Hornymatt	Posted - 2007.11.23 11:20:00 - [3] Server hamsters get to rest, socialise, and generally cool down before it's time for their daily shot of steriods. Then it's back on the wheel.
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.11.23 11:20:00 - [4] Originally by: Avon BoB sneak on to the server and farm officer spawns. AHA! Finally you admit to it! EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki
VicturusTeSaluto	Posted - 2007.11.23 11:25:00 - [5] Underpants gnomes raid the server.
Kayna Eelai Gallente Shadow Legion Covenant Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.11.23 11:27:00 - [6] Originally by: Snowcrash Winterheart2 Nope, not a "why does DT last an hour" whine thread :) I'm just curious about what actually happens during DT on the server side (aside from the change window opening). they clean the crap in their hamster cages. or maybe, they have a more advanced version... some sweatshop chinese farmers on bikes... and this is the hour they have to go to the toilet and sleep a few minutes. eating? they can eat and ride bike at same time... fixed to 23.15 kB (23710 bytes)
MAEOTIS	Posted - 2007.11.23 11:27:00 - [7] Every one at CCP get naked rub themselves in oil and play catch the girl kiss the girl......
Zinras	Posted - 2007.11.23 11:29:00 - [8] EVE turns into Hello Kitty Online for an hour, so all the people told to go there can get a bit of game time on their accounts while regular EVE players have no access.
Cygnus Zhada Amarr The Wild Hunt Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.23 11:36:00 - [9] Oveur enters Jita and starts shouting "EMPTY, YOU @#$%ING C%^&K OF A SYSTEM!!!" Basking in the silence. Welcome to EVE Online: Press 1 for Caldari, PVE Online Press 2 for Minmatar, PVP Online Press 3 for Gallente, PWN Online Press 4 for Amarr, Lulz Online
Alyth Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:06:00 - [10] Originally by: Cygnus Zhada Oveur enters Jita and starts shouting "EMPTY, YOU @#$%ING C%^&K OF A SYSTEM!!!" Basking in the silence. Why would anyone yell 'EMPTY, YOU AMPERSAND-HASH-DOLLAR-PERCENT-ING C-PERCENT-THINGY-AND-K OF A SYSTEM'? Seems like an odd thing to say to me.
zeluk Caldari Shades Corp The OSS	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Hornymatt Server hamsters get to rest, socialise, and generally cool down before it's time for their daily shot of steriods. Then it's back on the wheel. They also break out the girl hamsters and a fresh bottle of liquer. Thus the lag after downtime sometimes.
Snowcrash Winterheart2 Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:10:00 - [12] Originally by: Alyth Originally by: Cygnus Zhada Oveur enters Jita and starts shouting "EMPTY, YOU @#$%ING C%^&K OF A SYSTEM!!!" Basking in the silence. Why would anyone yell 'EMPTY, YOU AMPERSAND-HASH-DOLLAR-PERCENT-ING C-PERCENT-THINGY-AND-K OF A SYSTEM'? Seems like an odd thing to say to me. Odd yes. Stranger still when the collective concious of Jita yells "No." and runs him over with a freighter. ----- Four paws... four sets of claws.
Matthew Cooper Minmatar Who What When Where Why and How	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:10:00 - [13] Originally by: Alyth Why would anyone yell 'EMPTY, YOU AMPERSAND-HASH-DOLLAR-PERCENT-ING C-PERCENT-THINGY-AND-K OF A SYSTEM'? Seems like an odd thing to say to me. FYI: ^ = caret Originally by: Tarminic Stop posting with your alt Kieron.
Matthew Caldari BloodStar Technologies	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:13:00 - [14] At the risk of being serious for a minute, and drawing upon my memory of the last time this was asked: DT is generally used for maintenance operations that would either be difficult to run while the server is live, or which would cause potentially game-breaking oddities if done while the server is live. An example of the first would be the deleting of records of stuff in the "junkyards". For performance reasons when stuff is destroyed/trashed etc the DB entry for it is not deleted immediately. Instead it's transferred to be located in a "junkyard" (the transfer will be a change of one DB field and is a much faster DB operation than a delete of the entire record). This might also make the GM's life a bit easier, as they can find the original item in the junkyard. Things can't be left to sit in the junkyard indefinitely though, as the ItemID's need to be freed up to be used again (there were a couple of instances where the server crashed after running out of ItemID's). While this could be set up as a background process, it would have to be slower as it would be constantly backing off to allow the more critical "live" traffic priority if it was not to impact server performance. There would also be no guarantee of the background process getting enough time to keep up and avoid the server running out of ItemID's and crashing. The DT process gives them far more control, and they can simply extend DT if there is a shortage of ItemIDs developing. An example of the second is asteriod respawning. While it's entirely possible to do this while the server is online, it could lead to some undesirable effects. Just imagine if you're ratting in a belt that's been mined out. The spawn script gets to you and ambushes you with a few dozen veldspar roids, trapping you between them. Not fun, I'm sure you'd agree. Exploration and mission areas do spawn all the time and avoid this because they spawn in a much wider area, and the likelihood of any player being there when it spawns is negligable. Hotfixes are also applied during some DT's without us really knowing (as a client patch is not required for these), and hardware taken in and out of the cluster for maintenance as required. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines.
Cygnus Zhada Amarr The Wild Hunt Pure.	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:16:00 - [15] [TF2]You FAIL![/TF2] Welcome to EVE Online: Press 1 for Caldari, PVE Online Press 2 for Minmatar, PVP Online Press 3 for Gallente, PWN Online Press 4 for Amarr, Lulz Online
Alyth Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:20:00 - [16] Originally by: Snowcrash Winterheart2 Originally by: Alyth Originally by: Cygnus Zhada Oveur enters Jita and starts shouting "EMPTY, YOU @#$%ING C%^&K OF A SYSTEM!!!" Basking in the silence. Why would anyone yell 'EMPTY, YOU AMPERSAND-HASH-DOLLAR-PERCENT-ING C-PERCENT-THINGY-AND-K OF A SYSTEM'? Seems like an odd thing to say to me. Odd yes. Stranger still when the collective concious of Jita yells "No." and runs him over with a freighter. Followed by an old man saying 'It's.....' who is then crushed by a large foot descending from the sky. And yes....caret that's the one
Ash Solar	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:20:00 - [17] Originally by: Alyth Originally by: Cygnus Zhada Oveur enters Jita and starts shouting "EMPTY, YOU @#$%ING C%^&K OF A SYSTEM!!!" Basking in the silence. Why would anyone yell 'EMPTY, YOU AMPERSAND-HASH-DOLLAR-PERCENT-ING C-PERCENT-THINGY-AND-K OF A SYSTEM'? Seems like an odd thing to say to me. internet nerd to the rescue! & = ampersand @ = commercial at ^ = caret
Jallem Sims Minmatar Exploring Blind	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:24:00 - [18] safety? 24/7 is not really good for your health tbh
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Ash Solar @ = commercial at Commercial yes, but "ad" originally My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Khaldor	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:34:00 - [20] Percent sign ampersand dollar sign! What the f@$k are you doing? Swearing in longhand, asterisk mouth.
Monkey Rat Caldari Simtech Productions Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:35:00 - [21] Downtime never last an hour anyway. I've logged in at 30mins past the hour and it's let me in. I guess the actual maintenance takes about this long, with the other half hour as buffer in case they mess up somewhere. Doesn't always work though.
Motokko	Posted - 2007.11.23 13:41:00 - [22] Originally by: Jallem Sims safety? 24/7 is not really good for your health tbh But 23/7 is fine. You heard it here first folks.

ISD Santiago Cortes Caldari ISD Interstellar Correspondents	Posted - 2007.11.24 00:40:00 - [23] Originally by: MAEOTIS Every one at CCP get naked rub themselves in oil and play catch the girl kiss the girl...... They're onto us forum rules \| mailto:[email protected]

Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race	Posted - 2007.11.24 00:41:00 - [24] READING OLD THREADS DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO BUMP THEM: The story behind Downtime _________________ Burn.
Daelorn State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.24 01:12:00 - [25] Edited by: Daelorn on 24/11/2007 01:14:42 DT also gives a chance for some players to shower + eat.
kurg Amarr Science Production And NuKing Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.24 01:36:00 - [26] Originally by: Snowcrash Winterheart2 Nope, not a "why does DT last an hour" whine thread :) I'm just curious about what actually happens during DT on the server side (aside from the change window opening). i would suspect they down their processes/applications in sequence apply any minor fixes/changes then reboot their blades in sequence perhaps even some DB maintance.
Sister Impotentata Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.11.24 01:53:00 - [27] Originally by: Daelorn DT also gives a chance for some players to shower + eat. That's why I always end up cleaner than my laundry by the end of the week. We either need shorter DTs or I need more clean clothes. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Psycho John Petrucci If there's any point where you feel it's too difficult, then just stop. Because you just, you don't have it, you're just not good.
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.11.24 02:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Motokko Originally by: Jallem Sims safety? 24/7 is not really good for your health tbh But 23/7 is fine. You heard it here first folks. That one hour lets the people on the edge of exhaustion pass out.. Seriously.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
Cleric Hammond	Posted - 2007.11.24 02:32:00 - [29] Originally by: Alyth Originally by: Cygnus Zhada Oveur enters Jita and starts shouting "EMPTY, YOU @#$%ING C%^&K OF A SYSTEM!!!" Basking in the silence. Why would anyone yell 'EMPTY, YOU AMPERSAND-HASH-DOLLAR-PERCENT-ING C-PERCENT-THINGY-AND-K OF A SYSTEM'? Seems like an odd thing to say to me. I thought this was an Ampersand = &

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