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Luso
Caldari Nova Lusitania Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.21 02:53:00 -
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Cloakers in War,...
are kinda difficult to fight.
The risk CCP are atm going is that big alliances are getting bigger because of the possibilities (lot¦s of pilots) to send Cloaking Fleets to enemies space and let them there to sabotage other Alliances. To balance the possibilities Alliances will try to get together in bigger alliances. One day one of the big partys will have enought of the Cloaking wars and will leave EVE (hopeful), CCP will have only half of the players than, that will be the Paradise.
Nova Lusitania lost a lot of players in the past few months because of that situation. Goons are having a lot of "suck"sses with this tactics, and the promess from CCP to give a counter-tactics for this kind of warfare is still in planing....guess why.
Maybe CCP think about the situation and bring at least a possibility to scan and fight Cloakers. It would balance a little bit the lame situation of have 10 afk cloaker-alts all day long somewhere.
or
Keep going with that Kind of "no-change-to-get-us" fleets... its the key to have in a short amount of time less players online :)
Question: Did Goons bought CCP? Or are they White-Wolf owner?
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ae1
Minmatar The IMorral MAjority
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Posted - 2007.12.21 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Luso Cloakers in War,...
are kinda difficult to fight.
Maybe CCP think about the situation and bring at least a possibility to scan and fight Cloakers. It would balance a little bit the lame situation of have 10 afk cloaker-alts all day long somewhere.
The day I can press a button and make an outpost (in 0.0) undock someone is the day I'll stop fitting a cloak.
Don't say it's unfair that you can't shoot a cloaked ship, without saying it's unfair for someone to sit docked up in a station.
So here's the "patch" (read nerf) that CCP should apply: Cloakers can be scanned down and de-cloaked with a hacking module. In return, outposts should be modified so that the ships dock on the outside of the outpost. They are still targetable and can still be shot. Make it so no one can "hide".
That being said, I dread the day either of those things happen.
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Aviticus
Caldari Deviance Inc DeStInY.
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Posted - 2007.12.21 07:19:00 -
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Deviance has fought a lot of respectable corporations while we were low sec pirates. Veto, Blood Corsairs, System-Lords, The Movement, TURBY to name a few and you want to know something? You don't see them responding to a post and bragging about some alliance they are fighting do you?
Honestly, posting all of this and saying how your "crushing" an alliance and posting links to all these stats and killboards...it's quite pathetic, and it's not even close to being true. Destiny is actually stronger than before thanks to you. (have a cookie on me).
But all that's said here really just goes to show you how much your corporation has no respect. And those that you think you have respect from really deep down inside most likely don't have any for you. Not only are you making yourselves look like little 16 year olds thinking you're better than everyone, you're making them look like it too.
When we fought against those mentioned above, we had some great battles. Some great wars. And at the end of the day, it was a "o/ gf" and a goodbye until the next engagement. If any posts were made it was about how much fun the engagement was, not really boasting in anyone's particular favor. That's respect.
But maybe you all need these posts to make you feel better about yourselves? Give you some self esteem? Seriously, grow up now. Action speaks louder than words and I'd seriously rather have you all cloaked in our system then making a fool of yourselves on these boards.
When you come in system, I'll be sure to grab my fly swatter ;/
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port22
The IMorral MAjority
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Posted - 2007.12.21 07:32:00 -
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Originally by: Aviticus Deviance has fought a lot of respectable corporations while we were low sec pirates. Veto, Blood Corsairs, System-Lords, The Movement, TURBY to name a few and you want to know something? You don't see them responding to a post and bragging about some alliance they are fighting do you?
Honestly, posting all of this and saying how your "crushing" an alliance and posting links to all these stats and killboards...it's quite pathetic, and it's not even close to being true. Destiny is actually stronger than before thanks to you. (have a cookie on me).
But all that's said here really just goes to show you how much your corporation has no respect. And those that you think you have respect from really deep down inside most likely don't have any for you. Not only are you making yourselves look like little 16 year olds thinking you're better than everyone, you're making them look like it too.
When we fought against those mentioned above, we had some great battles. Some great wars. And at the end of the day, it was a "o/ gf" and a goodbye until the next engagement. If any posts were made it was about how much fun the engagement was, not really boasting in anyone's particular favor. That's respect.
But maybe you all need these posts to make you feel better about yourselves? Give you some self esteem? Seriously, grow up now. Action speaks louder than words and I'd seriously rather have you all cloaked in our system then making a fool of yourselves on these boards.
When you come in system, I'll be sure to grab my fly swatter ;/
Get a clue. We are in your space because your of your leaders over inflated ego. He challenged us to be here, infact he dared us to come here and shoot you. We took him up on the offer. He shot his mouth off at us, we called his bluff and are making you look stupid in the process. So I welcome your responses above, it is not us who looks foolish....
Originally by: Venetian Tar port, your mum hates you, and your dads shagging your sister
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theWoman
Gallente Apostles of Insanity Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.21 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Aviticus
And at the end of the day, it was a "o/ gf" and a goodbye until the next engagement. If any posts were made it was about how much fun the engagement was, not really boasting in anyone's particular favor. That's respect.
Respect isn't something that's given. It's something that's earned.
And you and your alliance have a long way to go before you get any respect from anyone in Branch !!!
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schwarzes Schaf
Gallente Apostles of Insanity Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.21 07:59:00 -
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Edited by: schwarzes Schaf on 21/12/2007 08:00:50 Interesting facts (not opinions)
BADD Killboard Campaign V Destiny Alliance
168 kills / 29 losses - 7,881,151,571 ISK / 2,215,169,792 ISK
Rare Faction Killboard V Destiny Alliance
396 kills / 176 losses - 21691.54M / 5804.93M
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menis'2'society
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Posted - 2007.12.22 09:35:00 -
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instead of moaning on the fourms! try doing something about IM, destiny you say you dont care but you are truly showing you do :)
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schwarzes Schaf
Gallente Apostles of Insanity Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.25 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: menis'2'society instead of moaning on the fourms! try doing something about IM, destiny you say you dont care but you are truly showing you do :)
They are! They are recruiting. :)
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port22
The IMorral MAjority
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Posted - 2007.12.26 07:31:00 -
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War Campaign Update!
BADD / Destiny 188 kills / 33 losses 10,740,181,725 ISK / 2,577,479,645 ISK
Originally by: Rachen Mysuna Looks like we'll have to go to Destiny space more often... Just answer me this, do you all fly nano ships and run away at the first sign of an even fight?
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pipvac
Sacred Templars DeStInY.
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Posted - 2007.12.26 13:17:00 -
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Edited by: pipvac on 26/12/2007 13:17:35 My deepest respect and best wishes for the new year to all at Rare Faction. I can appreciate an enemy who will stay in character, and stand up and fight, and fight well, without having to take credit for the effort of others, and resort to verbal abuse and personal attacks.
See you on the battlefield guys. In the meantime have a superb Xmas break, and don't spare the beer.
Special mention for Ricco...I salute a good fighter without hesitation, and you're no exception.
I don't care how many ships we lose to you guys, you're always game for a stand up fight, and thats what makes this game fun for me. Cheers lads and ladies.
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Mokita
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.27 00:15:00 -
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if you have a problem with them being in your systems, try killing them...?
newbz.
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schwarzes Schaf
Gallente Apostles of Insanity Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.27 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: pipvac I can appreciate an enemy who will stay in character, and stand up and fight, and fight well, without having to take credit for the effort of others, and resort to verbal abuse and personal attacks.
I do not speak for my Alliance but I do speak for my corp.
IM appear to be doing an all right job of taking the fight to you alone without input from RARE. Their killboards support this fact. The only abuse I have seen is from your members directing insults towards members of IM. Venetian Tar as an example. As for personal attacks, Destiny kicked things off quite well by daring IM into 0.0 warfare with taunts of "noob's" and "you cannot take us on, we are leet 0.0 pvpr's." Hows that working out for you?
To my knowledge IM do not take credit for fights they are not involved in. A perfect example of this is the lack of capital kill posts on their killboards when you attacked our POS and lost those 4 carriers to Outbreak. They were responsible for the intel alone on that occasion.
From my angle, everything in here appears "in character."
Originally by: 5n4keyes my tactic was to dock, remain safe, and lose nothing....
Originally by: Shin Ra Lets be honest Venetian, its not really your space is it. You are merely paying someone else..
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pipvac
Sacred Templars DeStInY.
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Posted - 2007.12.27 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: pipvac on 27/12/2007 11:11:31
Originally by: schwarzes Schaf
Their killboards support this fact.
Its not my place to put a link to IM's kbs here. But I have nothing to say except people can go look and judge for themselves.
Originally by: schwarzes Schaf
The only abuse I have seen is from your members directing insults towards members of IM.
I cannot comment on actions already taken by GMs against IM as it breaches the forums' code of conduct. No such action has been taken against Destiny to my knowledge.
Originally by: schwarzes Schaf Venetian Tar as an example.
Send me log evidence and I will deal with anyone of our members who instigates 'personal attacks' of any kind.
Originally by: schwarzes Schaf
Destiny kicked things off quite well by daring IM into 0.0 warfare with taunts of "noob's" and "you cannot take us on, we are leet 0.0 pvpr's." Hows that working out for you?
IM drop below my radar tbh. Their presence in Dek is inconsequential to our alliance, short of the opportunistic kills they get by popping the odd ratter and hauler (which prompts emotional posts like that of the OP). I'm certain RF were/are more than capable of getting those kills without IM's assitance. IM is background noise. However RF are good fighters, and have a couple of great FCs with good tactical awareness. Its a joy to play the game with you guys.
Originally by: schwarzes Schaf
To my knowledge IM do not take credit for fights they are not involved in.
In that context, totally agree with you. Otherwise they would have to invent killmails. Although as I said, I think RF are/were more than capable of getting those kills with their 5 to 20 man gangs, whether IM chose to send a member or two or not.
Originally by: schwarzes Schaf A perfect example of this is the lack of capital kill posts on their killboards when you attacked our POS and lost those 4 carriers to Outbreak. They were responsible for the intel alone on that occasion.
Yes. Nicely done. The evemail that the POS was under attack would also have told you quite a bit, and the RF character in system would've helped too. But I understand that you feel beholden to IM, and are grateful for their help. The billions paid for Outbreak's help I'm sure justifies the killmails, and theres no denying the results on the killboards. Well played.
From a personal point of view I want to play the game in the game, and enjoy it, without all this tiresome smack.
In summary...
RF - well played/good fighters/good results IM - I have no opinion to offer, not had to fight them much. Only effort I've seen is in the forums. Destiny - needs to/can do better. For a relatively small bunch of pvprs good/brave effort.
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schwarzes Schaf
Gallente Apostles of Insanity Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.27 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: schwarzes Schaf on 27/12/2007 11:51:12
Originally by: Trebor Locke your member corps are being told to dock up the second 'one single red' hits a system, and to top it all off you're getting beaten by a group of 3-4 cloakers who disrupt every ounce of your trade, putting you in to a 2.5 billion isk trade deficit not including requirements for POS resources (of which I couldnt obtain good market information for).
I think IM would appreciate the fact you have your head in the sand. Example posted.
Originally by: 5n4keyes my tactic was to dock, remain safe, and lose nothing....
Originally by: Shin Ra Lets be honest Venetian, its not really your space is it. You are merely paying someone else..
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pipvac
Sacred Templars DeStInY.
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Posted - 2007.12.27 12:00:00 -
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Welcome to Smack Online. Choose the 'facts' that suit your argument and reply accordingly, or just make it up or edit accordingly.
Kate Moss naked on my lap - priceless Posting on these forums in the hope of something more than smack? - pointless
If anyone reading this really wants to know what this is about convo me in game. Otherwise in here expect...
quote=pipvac xxxx /quote
Smack
If youre not interested...stop reading and go do something else ya daft muppet.
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schwarzes Schaf
Gallente Apostles of Insanity Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.27 12:10:00 -
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Make it up? Im sure you just didnt go there, did you?
Originally by: 5n4keyes my tactic was to dock, remain safe, and lose nothing....
Originally by: Shin Ra Lets be honest Venetian, its not really your space is it. You are merely paying someone else..
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port22
Gallente The IMorral MAjority
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Posted - 2007.12.27 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: pipvac Welcome to Smack Online. Choose the 'facts' that suit your argument and reply accordingly, or just make it up or edit accordingly.
Kate Moss naked on my lap - priceless Posting on these forums in the hope of something more than smack? - pointless
If anyone reading this really wants to know what this is about convo me in game. Otherwise in here expect...
quote=pipvac xxxx /quote
Smack
If youre not interested...stop reading and go do something else ya daft muppet.
If anyone wants to hear Destiny's side of the story, please convo pipvac. If anyone wants to hear IM's side of the story, please convo me. If anyone wants to make up their own mind, look at killboards and read the comments posted on the forums by ex Destiny members sheding light on the subject.
Fixed.
Originally by: Darklin Eldaris Destiny is without honor. They talk ****, they station jockey, and they are epic fail.
Originally by: Confessor Destiny seemed to be really focused on the isk farm.
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deathdragons
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Posted - 2007.12.31 02:06:00 -
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lol i like this thread destiny needs to stop kicking or fighting with its membrs if it wants them to stand and fight the pvp corps left becouse snake trys to tell others how to fight my corp got booted for not kicking are members that snake wanted kicked ya we had a spy and som korean friends that made us isk =). but trying to bully my 2nd when i was not on line was not going to help my guys where in every battle and u kick us but most of destiny hides if they see a red. so they will leave. and threating some one to come try to take a pos down... we all know why you will tell try they are trying to take sov so they can join the fight. o and your we might lie to tri and tell them im is trying to take sov even if they are not so tri can join the fight i remembr when that was going to hapen oops was i not suspos to say that. o well have fun dieing or running what ever destiny is better at.
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port22
Gallente The IMorral MAjority
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Posted - 2007.12.31 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: deathdragons lol i like this thread destiny needs to stop kicking or fighting with its membrs if it wants them to stand and fight the pvp corps left becouse snake trys to tell others how to fight my corp got booted for not kicking are members that snake wanted kicked ya we had a spy and som korean friends that made us isk =). but trying to bully my 2nd when i was not on line was not going to help my guys where in every battle and u kick us but most of destiny hides if they see a red. so they will leave. and threating some one to come try to take a pos down... we all know why you will tell try they are trying to take sov so they can join the fight. o and your we might lie to tri and tell them im is trying to take sov even if they are not so tri can join the fight i remembr when that was going to hapen oops was i not suspos to say that. o well have fun dieing or running what ever destiny is better at.
So did 5nake ever post his losses to your ISK farmers when they podded him? And thanks for the intel, but we already know Destiny have been having a cry to Tri as has been previously explained in previous posts. Desperate times call for desperate measures. IM believe there is no measure to how low Destiny Alliance will stoop to try and save face.
Originally by: Darklin Eldaris Destiny is without honor. They talk ****, they station jockey, and they are epic fail.
Originally by: Confessor Destiny seemed to be really focused on the isk farm.
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deathdragons
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Posted - 2007.12.31 03:18:00 -
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Edited by: deathdragons on 31/12/2007 03:21:57 lol no they did not ofcourse it got erased from kill board and my korean friends (not isk farmers) lol got banned lol. o well it was fun even though u guys killed me a time or two =( lol have fun mates. they will always be a tri pawn with no asperations except making snakes corp isk by over pricing factory slots and refine charges. but snakes wallet is fat.
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