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Chaz Pounder
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Posted - 2004.03.06 10:57:00 -
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With all this nurfing of thows who love PvP .. cant we just get it over with and do like this . Take all wepods out of the game and NPC .. and rename Eve to "Sim Eve" or even better "Eve : The sec mining Operation" ?,. Plz let me know your tohughts :).. 
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Kram Calama
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Posted - 2004.03.06 11:00:00 -
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I did some mining this morning and it was sweeeeeeet 
Anyway, DT so time to play the Sims
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Je'Nann
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Posted - 2004.03.06 11:05:00 -
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maybe Zombie were just victims of society. with the proper therapy (such as mining veldspar) they may not have turned into 1.0 killers ....
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kurg
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Posted - 2004.03.06 11:12:00 -
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honestly, if the gamemechanics hadnt made it close to impossible to engage ppl I doubt they would have done it..
a psychotherapist would probably call their action a 'cry for help'
and to those who might wonder.. yes im serious.
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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Lump Hammer
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Posted - 2004.03.06 11:14:00 -
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CCP are just rebalancing the food chain in EVE. Its a well know fact that you need a lot of antelope to keep a single lion well fed, CCP are just redressing the balance to keep the game sustainable over a long time.
If PK players have it too good, the sims will become extinct (leave the game), then all you have is just another shoot-em-up.
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Chaz Pounder
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Posted - 2004.03.06 11:24:00 -
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CCP are just rebalancing the food chain in EVE. Its a well know fact that you need a lot of antelope to keep a single lion well fed, CCP are just redressing the balance to keep the game sustainable over a long time.
If PK players have it too good, the sims will become extinct (leave the game), then all you have is just another shoot-em-up.
True true .. still seems all the good candy is for the good guys and the rest just get the left overs.
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Ulfar
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Posted - 2004.03.06 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: Ulfar on 06/03/2004 23:51:18
I think the reason people where camping gates is it is impossible to catch someone during warp travel.
I think this is a symptom of the way Eve handles travel being fundamentally flawed.
The system I would like to see would be where you have a jump drive that you can use to jump directly from a jump point in one system directly to your destination as long as it is in range, otherwise you would have to make several jumps.
Then once you are there the journey to a station from the jump point should take longer so that pirates could chase you. Make a journey take 10 mins. people couldn't whine as they would have saved the time of travelling through each system.
To give prey a chance combat should be lengthened. For a start smaller more agile ships should be much harder to hit. Industrials should have enough shielding and armour to give them a chance and maybe a decent sized turret.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2004.03.06 16:09:00 -
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There is..
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Ulfar
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Posted - 2004.03.06 23:50:00 -
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Oops missed it there never used to be.
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Carzaro Merious
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Posted - 2004.03.07 00:10:00 -
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Well. I wouldnt say that all good things are for teh good peeps.. As it seems, up till now, all good things and the balance has been in favour of the rats.
Still. The "good" players havent been complaining half as much as the rats have they? So come on. Be a man or a mouse. Leave teh game or stay. Do what u like but stop whining.
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True true .. still seems all the good candy is for the good guys and the rest just get the left overs.
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kurg
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Posted - 2004.03.07 00:58:00 -
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well even for the noobs the game will be much more fun (or rather exciting) if 'lover sec' areas is really dangerous (here im talking even .8 etc.
theres should still be 'some' risk in these areas!
even the paranoid has real enemies...
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.03.07 01:52:00 -
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Shootem ups are free.
Sims are also free.
Its creating the complex game mechanics that allows for shootemup+sims that makes it not free.
I think the key is to create a new war system, which I believe Hellmar is also thinking off.
For example I have some ideas on this, one that allows large scale RP wars within Empire space.
In your character or corporate attribute, there should a check flag that says this:
Racial/Faction Wars:
Do you wish to join any of the following (supposing an Amarrian example):
__ War against Minmatar
__ War against Gallente
__ War against Caldari
If you checked a flag, you would have consented on PvP against players who you have checked against with.
For example Amarrian Role Player PvPer checks the first entry against Minmatar. He would be technically part of the larger faction war against Minmatar who also checked the blanks against Amarr.
Since he has consented, those he checked against will be fair game to him, and him, fair game to them. However, he cannot kill MInmatar who has not consented on the faction war or the Concord will come down on him.
Consensual players will therefore have the proper color markings towards each other that makes it technically legal for them to engage in combat.
This way, you can broaden the scope of consensual war.
Once it is checked, you have 24 hours to get all your things in order. If you desire to leave the faction war by unchecking, the player has a 24 hours waiting time to do so, and he canot leave immediately.
There should be other rewards and incentives for joining faction wars. Increased faction standing for example, which can lead to better missions or better ore refining with the faction station.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.03.07 03:52:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 07/03/2004 03:54:04
"For example I have some ideas on this, one that allows large scale RP wars within Empire space.
In your character or corporate attribute, there should a check flag that says this:
Racial/Faction Wars:"
It's nice in theory, but afraid was already verified in practice in SWG, out of all things :/
FACTIONS
Percentage of characters in specific factions
Live server report date: Feb19th
0.34% Rebel Declared
0.49% Imperial Declared
... that's number of people willing to take the risk of being valid target anytime, anywhere -- less than 1% of the whole game population.
converted to Eve numbers, that'd be ~50-75 players (online). Picture the chances of running into one of them in 5k solar systems, and that they have the faction which allows you to shoot them...
Now i don't know, maybe SWG doesn't offer good enough rewards to make it worth the effort... but it just doesn't look good :/
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Chaz Pounder
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Posted - 2004.03.07 08:18:00 -
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Well. I wouldnt say that all good things are for teh good peeps.. As it seems, up till now, all good things and the balance has been in favour of the rats.
Still. The "good" players havent been complaining half as much as the rats have they? So come on. Be a man or a mouse. Leave teh game or stay. Do what u like but stop whining.
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True true .. still seems all the good candy is for the good guys and the rest just get the left overs.
ouch that whas uncalled for .. I just want a diskusion here what everyone ells think, if I thought the game sucked i whodent even start this lil topic ,whod i? . and theres really a diff betwine whining and being qurius what everyone ells think ..
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Chaz Pounder
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Posted - 2004.03.07 16:50:00 -
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Edited by: Chaz Pounder on 07/03/2004 17:36:01
 After some beers it sudenly poped in to my peenutt as brian .
The big plan gota be that CCP want as many new ppl paying to play eve, the perfect way of doing that is to make the game peace full as the garden of eden, and just let the hooked poor veterans who thay really dont whana listen too, give em some crap tech 2,all for the glory of $money$.   
basicly if u can keep the numbers of new players higher then the ppl u lose your still in bizzniz. find the sweet spot and u can make milj.
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.03.07 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Chaz Pounder on 07/03/2004 17:36:01
After some beers it sudenly poped in to my peenutt as brian .
The big plan gota be that CCP want as many new ppl paying to play eve, the perfect way of doing that is to make the game peace full as the garden of eden, and just let the hooked poor veterans who thay really dont whana listen too, give em some crap tech 2,all for the glory of $money$.
basicly if u can keep the numbers of new players higher then the ppl u lose your still in bizzniz. find the sweet spot and u can make milj.
always you to cheer me up chaz
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banrocc
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Posted - 2004.03.07 20:23:00 -
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But with the lack of content within EVE how many players will stay??...Get a BS then what??
Mine with the carebears?
Play missions that would struggle to entertain 6 year olds?
The recent influx of players will soon dissapear
How can you have a game like EVE that is made so safe a 2 year old could play it with no content the game will die..we were promissed tech 2 would improve things with content..like thats really happend..Now its stations and sentry guns with ubber ranges ..like thats going to add content..
I really am struggling to find a reason to still play EVE
I want to but cant see whats left to do?
I have minned i have done the missions was enjoying hunting and gating but now what?
Yes im a pirate but i never go to noob land to kill.......
Thinking about it i have posted about this so much im tired of it 
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Chaz Pounder
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Posted - 2004.03.08 15:32:00 -
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But with the lack of content within EVE how many players will stay??...Get a BS then what??
Mine with the carebears?
Play missions that would struggle to entertain 6 year olds?
The recent influx of players will soon dissapear
How can you have a game like EVE that is made so safe a 2 year old could play it with no content the game will die..we were promissed tech 2 would improve things with content..like thats really happend..Now its stations and sentry guns with ubber ranges ..like thats going to add content..
I really am struggling to find a reason to still play EVE
I want to but cant see whats left to do?
I have minned i have done the missions was enjoying hunting and gating but now what?
Yes im a pirate but i never go to noob land to kill.......
Thinking about it i have posted about this so much im tired of it
agree with u 110% 
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2004.03.08 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Randuin MaraL on 08/03/2004 15:44:41
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With all this nurfing of thows who love PvP .. cant we just get it over with and do like this . Take all wepods out of the game and NPC .. and rename Eve to "Sim Eve" or even better "Eve : The sec mining Operation" ?,. Plz let me know your tohughts :)..
Can I have your stuff? 
To be honest, I am tired of this "uh they nerf my PvP again"-stuff. EVE has more than one facet. Each one needs to be in balance with the other one. You did not buy a steady and fix product, EVE is "alive" and will always move and change.
Tell me, what did "they" change again - the 150km sentry range? :shrugs: I do not care, I am at war with my enemies, and my missiles do not splash damage anymore. If someone needs a safe place to gank from - he shall go where no sentry guns are or increase his range of fire
Mobile warp disruptors seem to work more than nicely from what can be read on these forums.
Some EW has to get balanced - no way around it, and if someone calls the balancing "nerfing" - well, not my problem again.
Understand me well, nothing personal meant here, I simply hate it when people always whine and complain and complain and complain and see EVE as carebear-mining-sim only. In 15 months that I know this universe, it has moved far from that. Whatever.
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PirateShampoo
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Posted - 2004.03.08 15:43:00 -
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ok,
If the zombie pilots can take out concord why did they get banned? If they were smart enough to figure out a way to do it. It is a part of the game and people need to adjust.. Either by making Concord more powerful in .5's and up or if they wont do that they will need to lower the security status of such systems in accordance to whats going on in the world of eve.
I thought CCP wanted eve to be player driven? If a corp or alliance is powerful enough to oust even concord why should it be "illegal"???????????????????????????
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