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Bar Salt	Posted - 2007.11.29 00:28:00 - [31] Originally by: Sirius Problem It will be interesting to see what, if anything, CCP comes up with to fix the bounty system. lol i doubt CCP will even look at this thread.
Archivian Specialatus Amarr Fairlight Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.11.30 06:55:00 - [32] When a bounty hunter kills a registered criminal anywhere (even 0.0 space) a pirate gets kill-rights on the bounty hunter. Because a criminal has a bounty on his head and has negative security status, he is a æregistered criminalÆ until there is no longer a bounty or their Sec status is above 0.9. Stations do not want registered criminals on board, you are given a timer to leave or you will be forced out. (When a player logs off, the timer will pause). If a registered criminal is forced to undock, he cannot dock at the same station again for 5mins. They will also charge criminals more money for station services. The insurance company considers registered criminals a high risk. So they increase the price of your next insurance premium. (These penalties only apply to low sec space) -1.0 / 360mins / +10% All station services/ +50% To insurance premium -2.0 / 324mins/+20% All station services/+100% To insurance premium -3.0 / 288mins/+30% All station services/+150% To insurance premium -4.0 / 252mins/+40% All station services/+200% To insurance premium -5.0 /216mins/+50% All station services/+250% To insurance premium -6.0 /180mins/+60% All station services/+300% To insurance premium -7.0 / 144mins/+70% All station services/+350% To insurance premium -8.0 / 108mins/+80% All station services/+400% To insurance premium -9.0 / 72mins /+90% All station services/+450% To insurance premium -10.0 / 36mins/+100% All station services/+500% To insurance premium When a criminal docks, his location is sent to the Bounty Database If your docked your location will be broadcast within a certain distance depending on your sec status: -0.1 system. -0.2 system. -0.3 system. -0.4 system. -0.5 constellation. -0.6 constellation. -0.7 constellation. -0.8 constellation. -0.9 region. -10.0 region. For each 1mil ISK of bounty, the clone services add 2.5% to a registered criminals next clone price. For each level of negative standing, that added percentage is multiplied by: Sec Status / % Multiplier /Example of clone price/ with 100mil bounty: -1.0/2.5% x5/1.328 = 17.928mil -2.0/2.5% x6/1.328 = 21.248mil -3.0/2.5% x7/1.328 = 24.568mil -4.0/2.5% x8/1.328 = 27.888mil -5.0/2.5% x9/1.328 = 31.208mil -6.0/2.5% x10/1.328 = 34.528mil -7.0/2.5% x11/1.328 = 37.848mil -8.0/2.5% x12/1.328 = 41.168mil -9.0/2.5% x13/1.328 = 44.488mil -10.0/2.5% x14/1.328 = 46.48mil Registered Criminal status will be removed when: A) The Criminal no longer has any bounty. And/or B) The Criminals Security Status is above 0.9. If a Registered Criminal cannot afford a clone: He can buy the clone at the normal price and then pay for the rest in instalments of 20% per week until the full payment is reached. If another clone is needed, its price is added on to your current payments. (clone 1 û 17.928 + clone 2 17.928 = Total bill to be paid is 35.856 at 20% per week.) When Registered Criminal status has been removed, future clones do not have the other cost but your current payments continue until they are complete. ------------------------------- bring back Eve TV
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.11.30 08:16:00 - [33] /signed this is a splendid idea
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2007.11.30 09:20:00 - [34] Please don't forget: Bounty Hunters are criminals themselves. No law enforcement agency would ever openly sanction bounty hunting. In fact, the closest historical example would have been the "conscription" of pirates using the "Letter of Marque" during the colonial period. Whilst I agree the bounty system needs work, any system that does not incorporate this basic fact - that bounty hunting itself is a crime and would largely be the domain of those who already operate outside the law - is doomed to failure. Sorry, not signed.
Archivian Specialatus Amarr Fairlight Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.11.30 17:13:00 - [35] Originally by: Cedric Diggory Please don't forget: Bounty Hunters are criminals themselves. No law enforcement agency would ever openly sanction bounty hunting. In fact, the closest historical example would have been the "conscription" of pirates using the "Letter of Marque" during the colonial period. Whilst I agree the bounty system needs work, any system that does not incorporate this basic fact - that bounty hunting itself is a crime and would largely be the domain of those who already operate outside the law - is doomed to failure. Sorry, not signed. (I dont know much on the subject, but i did have a little look into some modern day laws) Modern Bounty Hunters tend to be refered to more as "Bail fugitive recovery agents" or "Bail bond enforcers" than Bounty Hunters. The job is still to catch people and bring them in only they cant be freelance and are restricted by licenses to stay within certain states. Also apparently private detectives can also claim a bounty hunter licence. Obviously they need to complete training, and not have a criminal record. But it seems they are recognized by law. ( i could be mistaken, this is just going by the info i found) In EVE, we cant arrest people, people dont die so there is no get them dead there is no dead or alive. Bounty hunting cannot be dont in high sec either, which you could argue indicates that Concord dont agree with it. Low sec is losly policed, and thats where the game mechanics allow bounty hunting to occure. Which is something that used to happen, I think we can all look back on a hollywood style wildwest for bounty hunters. Anyway I am working on a police force idea that pays in LP. But its going to be very rough, so would appreciate lots of peoples ideas and massive smack to see if its worth thinking through. ------------------------------- bring back Eve TV
Amarr Holymight deii feram Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.12.01 01:30:00 - [36] Edited by: Amarr Holymight on 01/12/2007 01:36:12 Why does it have to adhere to any RL situations it's internet spaceships? I like the idea about a registered criminal.
Archivian Specialatus Amarr Fairlight Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.12.01 15:42:00 - [37] Originally by: Amarr Holymight Edited by: Amarr Holymight on 01/12/2007 05:14:58 Why does it have to adhere to any RL situations it's internet spaceships? It doesnt really have to adhere to anything. But having some kind of very basic similarity gives us a place to start. Originally by: Amarr Holymight Why not apply the metalevel system to the current bounty system as in you can only collect the equivalent amount of money out of the bounty as your killmail = metalevels? The meta level system on its own still leaves room for the system to be exploited, thats what i did on my first version and thanks to alot of feed back it was explained how, even if it did take slightly longer. It would at least have to be the "individual contracts" and the Meta level idea. It can still be exploited in this system "technically" but the time taken to do it and the money back would mean nothing. The effort taken to even attempt on the smallest level would take up all your time. and so it just wouldnt be worth doing. You would make more isk farming in 0.0 for 20mins than if you spent what could take potentially up to nearly a month to get started. ------------------------------- bring back Eve TV
Cailais Amarr VITOC	Posted - 2007.12.01 16:57:00 - [38] Archivian, rather than derail you thread I have posted my own. here Some of the mechanics are similar and I've used your ideas as Ive used them as base inspiration. In effect its a steamlined, and I think less complex system - the aim being that it could be more easily understood by a new player. C. Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Dehumanisation - griefers are cool and if you are not a griefer, you do not belong here.

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