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Landarian
Spaceways Provisioning Company
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Posted - 2007.11.26 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: Landarian on 26/11/2007 14:43:31
All:
What factors go into determining the cost of an office rent at an NPC station?
Over the last 3 months my office rent has gone from 297k to 3.7M and I'm just dying to know the reason for such massive inflation, especially since my office isn't exactly in a high-traffic area. Not like everyone and their brother is trying to put an office out here :)
Any info appreciated
Land
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Nlewis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.26 14:47:00 -
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as your landlord I did it because I need the money for the upcoming holiday season
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NAT Mav
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Posted - 2007.11.26 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: NAT Mav on 26/11/2007 14:47:48
Supply and demand. The more the offices are rented, the higher it goes. I had one in Ibura shoot up to 73 million. 
Stupid alts.
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Dafuzz
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:41:00 -
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 Originally by: NAT Mav
Edited by: NAT Mav on 26/11/2007 14:47:48
Supply and demand. The more the offices are rented, the higher it goes. I had one in Ibura shoot up to 73 million.
Stupid alts.
I wonder whose alt this is
Anyways, quoted for truth, but I also think the busier the station is may have something to do with it as well. May want to petition under ask a question/other.
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Landarian
Spaceways Provisioning Company
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Posted - 2007.11.26 20:01:00 -
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Yea, I may do that. The supply and demand thing I understood but that's the issue: there's hardly anyone in my system, so it's not like demand is huge  At least not enough to justify that sort of increase in rents.
Thanx for the replies.
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.26 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Landarian
Yea, I may do that. The supply and demand thing I understood but that's the issue: there's hardly anyone in my system, so it's not like demand is huge At least not enough to justify that sort of increase in rents.
Thanx for the replies.
You'd be surprised. Check the corp offices tab. Out of the way stations are more popular than you might imagine.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.11.26 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Originally by: NAT Mav
Edited by: NAT Mav on 26/11/2007 14:47:48
Supply and demand. The more the offices are rented, the higher it goes. I had one in Ibura shoot up to 73 million.
Stupid alts.
I wonder whose alt this is
I have no idea. 
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.11.27 05:33:00 -
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If all the offices are full in that station, the rental price continues to shoot upwards until people unrent (and the offices remain empty for quite some time). It doesn't matter if no one has ever actually visited that system in the last month, it's based on how many unrented offices there are.
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.27 11:13:00 -
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I allways thought that it has also to do with the usage of the station services as an example i tried to rent a office yesterday in a station with a refinery: 311 mil, 3 offices open but 2nd station in sys had 0 offices and rent was something like 3.7 million and crappy services.
When we first arrived in the Venal k3j station rent was 273 mil a month and when we left it was 17 million. Amount of rented offices was allways the same but overal station activity went down.
The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones!
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.11.27 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sacul
I allways thought that it has also to do with the usage of the station services as an example i tried to rent a office yesterday in a station with a refinery: 311 mil, 3 offices open but 2nd station in sys had 0 offices and rent was something like 3.7 million and crappy services.
When we first arrived in the Venal k3j station rent was 273 mil a month and when we left it was 17 million. Amount of rented offices was allways the same but overal station activity went down.
When it has 'free' offices the rent goes down, when they are all full the rent goes up. It's not instant, so even if you unrent all the offices, it will still be the same rent, it decays over time. If there are 'any' free offices the rent decreases, if there are none, it increases. It doesn't change right away just because an office is unrented (that would be exploitable). This way, the rent gets higher and higher, until someone thinks 'it's not worth it' and unrents it. It's better than before where you couldn't get an office ANYWHERE because they were all 10k/month regardless of usage, so people hoarded them, and even 'sold' the slots to others.
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Landarian
Spaceways Provisioning Company
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Posted - 2007.11.27 14:05:00 -
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Now THATs and interesting way of doing things. And it turns out you're right, all the offices in my particular station are rented - there weren't many to start with it seems.
That particular game mechanic is somewhat troublesome however. For a small corp with only one HQ/Office at that station, the price could just keep going up and drive them out, while a larger corp where that is just one of many offices could keep paying it.
Definitely something to keep an eye on. Thanx for the info everyone.
L
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.27 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sacul
I allways thought that it has also to do with the usage of the station services as an example i tried to rent a office yesterday in a station with a refinery: 311 mil, 3 offices open but 2nd station in sys had 0 offices and rent was something like 3.7 million and crappy services.
When we first arrived in the Venal k3j station rent was 273 mil a month and when we left it was 17 million. Amount of rented offices was allways the same but overal station activity went down.
It wouldn't overly surprise me to hear its a combination of factors, offices rented + station services usage + market sales at the station + clone contracts, etc...
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.11.28 15:02:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral Nova on 28/11/2007 15:04:02
Originally by: Landarian
Now THATs and interesting way of doing things. And it turns out you're right, all the offices in my particular station are rented - there weren't many to start with it seems.
That particular game mechanic is somewhat troublesome however. For a small corp with only one HQ/Office at that station, the price could just keep going up and drive them out, while a larger corp where that is just one of many offices could keep paying it.
Definitely something to keep an eye on. Thanx for the info everyone.
L
This system has been how it has been done for the last 2 ? years. Before that, all offices were 10k isk. Everywhere. 'Big' corps or even small ones would just rent all of them (and there was only half as many). So you couldn't find an office anywhere except in incredibly out of the way places. This way, small corp or large corp, you will stop paying the bill eventually if you are not using it. It means that anyone willing to pay for it, will eventually be able to get an office, which is MUCH fairer than the previous system where you COULDN'T get an office, no matter how much you wanted to pay.
The same system applied to LAB/Factory slots, and as you can imagine, Lab slots were impossible to find, people searched for months to find one, and there were none available anywhere in the game. You only got one when someone went away or forgot to pay the bill.
Anyway, if you are a small corp, you need to find a less popular station to start from, rent is cheap at out of the way stations, and then you can move into the 'high rent' offices later. If it's your only office, paying the rent is going to be easier than it is for a corp with dozens, some that they don't use so they will drop unused offices eventually. Thus quieter parts of space have cheaper rents, just as it should be.
Originally by: Janu Hull
It wouldn't overly surprise me to hear its a combination of factors, offices rented + station services usage + market sales at the station + clone contracts, etc...
It's not. It's purely to do with the number of offices free, and it goes up quite fast if they are all rented, it's by a % so it takes a little while for it to start rising, but then it really climbs. It takes a while to go down again also. The lab fees, and possibly the factory fees, were set based on their usage, but they were set statically based on their usage before the patch that set them that way.
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F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.11.29 08:39:00 -
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I'll expand on the good Admiral's response:
When there are no offices available to rent, i.e. they're all rented, the rental fee rises at 3%/day. If one office is available the fee does not increase. If 2 or more offices are available the fee decreases by 3%/day.
I don't know if this is an average for the whole day, or what is current at DT, though. It used to be the same for labs and factories, but that was changed with the sort-of-new system.
Originally by: Karen Serasia
Because some idiot decided to sell an internet connection to me and didn't think of the consequences.
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