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Coret Trobane
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Posted - 2004.03.06 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Coret Trobane on 06/03/2004 20:47:37
Just a quick question i've been thinking about recently which i hope you guys can help me out with...
firstly ... anyone know the approximate multiplier applied to damage on a wrecking shot?
second ... anyone know what it is which affects frequency of wrecking shots (other than luck)?
thanks
Coret
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.03.06 20:43:00 -
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1) About 3x I think
2) Nothing I think
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Isiana
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Posted - 2004.03.06 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: Isiana on 06/03/2004 20:56:56
heh my friend scored a wrecking hit of 495 with his ion blaster on his scorpion..........from 60 km with AM ammo 
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Coret Trobane
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Posted - 2004.03.06 21:00:00 -
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woah ... 60km with a blaster ... coolies :)
thanks btw jarjar
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.03.06 21:34:00 -
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...from 60 km with AM ammo
Which proves that nothing affects wrecking hits, you can get them on frigates orbiting at 5k/sec or at insane ranges. 
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.06 21:48:00 -
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What Jarjar said.
Wrecking shot gives a 3x multiplier to damage.
The chance to score a wrecking hit is fixed. Nothing affects it. Which means you can score a wrecking with a blaster from 500km distance and in the same way you can score a wrecking hit with a 1400mm projectile if the target is a frigate orbiting you at 10km/second at 1km range.
Which also means that all those players that like to compare and brag about their wrecking hits are idiots 
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Coret Trobane
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Posted - 2004.03.06 21:49:00 -
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hehe
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Isiana
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Posted - 2004.03.06 22:14:00 -
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...from 60 km with AM ammo
Which proves that nothing affects wrecking hits, you can get them on frigates orbiting at 5k/sec or at insane ranges.
yup  this was on a frig moving 2000m/s 60 km out
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Imperishable
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Posted - 2004.03.06 22:57:00 -
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I think this is bad, particularly for frigs. A BS with 6 guns can score a wrecking hit within a minute. And just 1 hit is enough to kill the frig. If a frig flys faster than gun tracking, it shouldn't get hit
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Tok Narok
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Posted - 2004.03.06 23:49:00 -
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Your Ion Blaster Cannon I perfectly strikes Some Dude , wrecking for 457.3 damage.
60km+ with antimatter. I figured I'd get a wrecking sooner or later, so I kept firing. It's a tad silly, but there you go.
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Frost88
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Posted - 2004.03.07 00:08:00 -
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Edited by: Isiana on 06/03/2004 20:56:56
heh my friend scored a wrecking hit of 495 with his ion blaster on his scorpion..........from 60 km with AM ammo
Heh I got hit by a Guristas Imputor from 120 km today :P
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Gyrn Fzirth
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Posted - 2004.03.07 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Gyrn Fzirth on 07/03/2004 05:03:52
Edited by: Gyrn Fzirth on 07/03/2004 02:09:11
Take a look in my sig - wrecking shot from a Tempest-mounted 1400 for 265 Damage. I was rofl'ing all over the place.
The funny part was that it was a noob ship. The wreck did enough damage to completely one-shot the ship (not hard to do against a noob wagon) and it truncated the damage done to exactly the amount the ship had :) It just looked funny in my log
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Rapturea
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Posted - 2004.03.07 02:32:00 -
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u r so ubar gryn
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Gyrn Fzirth
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Posted - 2004.03.07 04:41:00 -
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Edited by: Gyrn Fzirth on 07/03/2004 04:45:01
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u r so ubar gryn
/me 's sarcasm detector pegs at Max
hmmm perhaps I should add the <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags to my new sig...
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Dreez
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Posted - 2004.03.07 05:11:00 -
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I belive that multiple TC¦s affects your chanse of getting
excellent hits thou. I¦ve noticed a change when testing that
on an Apoc with Tachys , several TCs and Tachys.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.07 14:39:00 -
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I belive that multiple TC¦s affects your chanse of getting
excellent hits thou. I¦ve noticed a change when testing that
on an Apoc with Tachys , several TCs and Tachys.
Yea, the number of "excellent hits" and "well aimed at" is highly affected by optimal range and tracking, so target computers helps that.
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.03.07 15:50:00 -
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Take a look in my sig - wrecking shot from a Tempest-mounted 1400 for 265 Damage. I was rofl'ing all over the place.
The funny part was that it was a noob ship. The wreck did enough damage to completely one-shot the ship (not hard to do against a noob wagon) and it truncated the damage done to exactly the amount the ship had :) It just looked funny in my log
This happens when shooting pods too. I wrecked with a tachyon for 18.3 damage on a pod once... |
SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.03.14 13:57:00 -
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i have a theory that if you stagger you cannons you get better hits. it's my theory and it works for me.
ive binded .5 .5 .5 .5 between my canons to one button. i just hit it and switch to mid slots activate hardnerds booster maybe and sit back waiting for the target to run or die.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.03.14 14:07:00 -
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i have a theory that if you stagger you cannons you get better hits. it's my theory and it works for me.
ive binded .5 .5 .5 .5 between my canons to one button. i just hit it and switch to mid slots activate hardnerds booster maybe and sit back waiting for the target to run or die.
u know what, i find the same thing, when i stagger my guns, i seem to hit harder. if i hit f1 to f6 all at once i seem to miss alot more.
Very strange.
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2004.03.14 14:13:00 -
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i have a theory that if you stagger you cannons you get better hits. it's my theory and it works for me.
ive binded .5 .5 .5 .5 between my canons to one button. i just hit it and switch to mid slots activate hardnerds booster maybe and sit back waiting for the target to run or die.
technically isnt that illegal?
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.03.14 14:48:00 -
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i have a theory that if you stagger you cannons you get better hits. it's my theory and it works for me.
ive binded .5 .5 .5 .5 between my canons to one button. i just hit it and switch to mid slots activate hardnerds booster maybe and sit back waiting for the target to run or die.
technically isnt that illegal?
oooooo, good point, i was saying that i manual staggerd my guns, missread the guys post..
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.03.14 18:17:00 -
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When you stagger your guns you do not make them hit harder, you simply are adding more time between the hits so the game logs it more frequently.
When you fire all your guns at once, the game tends to not report all hits, probably to reduce lag.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.14 18:37:00 -
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i have a theory that if you stagger you cannons you get better hits. it's my theory and it works for me.
ive binded .5 .5 .5 .5 between my canons to one button. i just hit it and switch to mid slots activate hardnerds booster maybe and sit back waiting for the target to run or die.
technically isnt that illegal?
That would probably be classified as :
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illegal 3rd party program (i.e. macro or cheat program) that disrupts game mechanics, is considered unfriendly or gives an unfair advantage by misusing game features in a way for which they were not intended.
and thereby subject to a ban or warning
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.03.14 18:40:00 -
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There are some peripheral devices which allow you to bind keys, I don't see why these would be illegal.
It's not different than using a third mouse button on your mouse and binding it to something useful.
I think macros are only illegal if you are doing completely automated unattended activities, such as macro mining.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.03.14 18:43:00 -
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Yea, well, since missiles don't do splash damage anymore I don't see a point in staggering anything.
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FoulBeast
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Posted - 2004.03.14 20:50:00 -
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Yup just had a ion cannon on my Thorax do a wrecking hit of 241 from 22km out, can''t complain
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Naqq
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Posted - 2004.03.14 22:00:00 -
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i have a theory that if you stagger you cannons you get better hits. it's my theory and it works for me.
ive binded .5 .5 .5 .5 between my canons to one button. i just hit it and switch to mid slots activate hardnerds booster maybe and sit back waiting for the target to run or die.
technically isnt that illegal?
rofl what exactly do you seem to think is illegal in that ???
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Posted - 2004.03.15 03:26:00 -
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that is kinda like using aim bots in FPS games
I guess you can get away with it here cause EVE focuses on character skill leaving little room for player skill, but still, it does require some player skill and that's where you cheat
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Drutort
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Posted - 2004.03.15 08:12:00 -
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I think this is bad, particularly for frigs. A BS with 6 guns can score a wrecking hit within a minute. And just 1 hit is enough to kill the frig. If a frig flys faster than gun tracking, it shouldn't get hit
?? wrecking? if you have all dmg set up, you dont need no wrecking to blow up a frig... with high dmg like 10x and 11ROF & EMP you can kill frig really fast... a good excellent shoot which i got up to like 632dmg will kill a frig i think... depends what type but anyway that is 1 gun hehe, and a wrecking would be with the 10x like what 1500+?
but i havent been getting any wrecking shoots at least not any good ones yet as i used to get many patchs a go... but my avg and the excellent shoots are really good.
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Drutort
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Posted - 2004.03.15 08:14:00 -
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i have a theory that if you stagger you cannons you get better hits. it's my theory and it works for me.
ive binded .5 .5 .5 .5 between my canons to one button. i just hit it and switch to mid slots activate hardnerds booster maybe and sit back waiting for the target to run or die.
u know what, i find the same thing, when i stagger my guns, i seem to hit harder. if i hit f1 to f6 all at once i seem to miss alot more.
Very strange.
i notice that now too... whats up with that? OH the logs also dont record all the hits? im like ok i know i hit that cruiser for a lot more then what my logs say...
CCP needs to fix that... no way do you kill 2-4 npc cruisers with few 300-500 shoots... the math didntn add up in the logs... oh well i guess ill just have to press the keys a little slower LOL, i was too lazy and just hit all the Fx keys at once almost
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