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Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 01:49:00 - [1] I'm thinking Arabs rather than Islam here (very important difference.) If you look at the Arab world, arguably some of the most important cultural and technological developments have historically come from the Arab world and wider middle east, but again debatable, one could say that the output has declined in recent years or perhaps the western world has moved on and developed at a faster pace? That aside there are many striking similarities to modern Arab countries and culture as to Amarrian. Deeply religious and conservative in many quarters and certainly distinctly culturally apart from the western world but not entirely immune to foriegn influence. And I have a perception here (and must say this is just the way I see it through the media and people I meet) of a people both highly practical and amenable on one side and zealous and fanatical (in an extreme minority) on the other Caste system no direct parallel like in say India, or like some rigid class system, but there certainly is a heriarchy in somewhere like Saudi Arabia, or Dubai where the poor Bangladeshi migrant workers are really at the bottom of the ladder, and the Sheiks at the top One area where I'd definitely note a difference and use a different analogy is in the economy. Amarr feels like the old Russia of the early 1990's, laden with beaurocracy and inefficiency and with a population who don't really understand "business" (Nice to see that slowly changing, although recent trips to Russia and Ukraine (the latter especially) seem to indicate that the older generations don't quite get the whole entrepreneurial thing). But at the same time a vast land with near limitless natural resource waiting to be tapped Khaldari khanidpublic : RP channel for supporters of the Kingdom Recruiting
Drethon Gallente Lutin Group Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.11.28 02:46:00 - [2] Personally the Amarr remind me of the middle age Catholics that controlled every aspect of life including sending everyone off to Israel to "reclaim" the holy land... "I may not believe in what you believe in but I will fight to the death to protect your right to believe."
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.11.28 03:06:00 - [3] Persian actually. At least the names of their planets sound vaguely persian. And for example Ardishar+Shapur (Two legendary Persian kings) = Ardishapur (One of the Amarr royal families). What the RP community has puzzled together is that the Amarr are the descendants from a yet unformed, persian based, christian sect called the Universal Catholic Church (which is kind of cake on cake, because Catholic means "universal" as well) inheriting that cultural heritage and the peculiarities inherent in small Cultleader-worshipping sects. It has of course mutated over the millenia but that seems to be the basics of it. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Arch Revenant Gallente The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.28 05:24:00 - [4] "Mongol dynasty that ruled in Iran. Il-khan is Persian for ôsubordinate khan.ö Hnlegn, a grandson of Genghis Khan, was given the task of capturing Iran by the paramount Mongol chieftain M÷ngke. Hnlegn set out in about 1253 with a Mongol army of about 130,000. He founded the Il-Khanid dynasty in 1256, and by 1258 he had captured Baghdad and all Iran. The Il-Khans consolidated their position in Iranà Il-Khanid Dynasty... (75 of 226 words)" That's a quote from http://www.britannica.com I got when searching for "Khanid". Seems to add to Spoon Thumb's argument. ----------------------------------------- Be one with the fork. The path of the fork is the one true path.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.11.28 06:18:00 - [5] Originally by: Arch Revenant "Mongol dynasty that ruled in Iran. Il-khan is Persian for ôsubordinate khan.ö Hnlegn, a grandson of Genghis Khan, was given the task of capturing Iran by the paramount Mongol chieftain M÷ngke. Hnlegn set out in about 1253 with a Mongol army of about 130,000. He founded the Il-Khanid dynasty in 1256, and by 1258 he had captured Baghdad and all Iran. The Il-Khans consolidated their position in Iranà Il-Khanid Dynasty... (75 of 226 words)" That's a quote from http://www.britannica.com I got when searching for "Khanid". Seems to add to Spoon Thumb's argument. Supports the Persian origin IMHO. Note that Persian and Arabic is definitely NOT the same. Persian Culture was Islamized, but not Arabized. Different language, different history and different customs. This is mostly thanks to the Shu'ubiyyah movement within the region of Greater Persia (Modern day Iran plus some more). ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Andre Ricard Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.11.28 23:53:00 - [6] Edited by: Andre Ricard on 28/11/2007 23:54:02 Much of the inspiration for Amarrian culture and doctrine is drawn from Zoroastrianism, which was a spiritual predecessor of the Abrahamic religions. They aren't meant to be a dig on modern Arab Islamic fundamentalists, however - the structure of their society is based far more on the Byzantine Empire (which, incidentally, ruled Persia at one point and was based in what is now the capital of Turkey) and Medieval, Catholic Europe than anything else. ----- Character back under original management.
GoGo Yubari PAK	Posted - 2007.11.29 08:21:00 - [7] The extra information available on the Chinese site which we still haven't seen here stated the origins of the Amarr language, which would be an indication of their racial origins. I recall they were from one of the eastern european countries close to the mediterranean, can't recall exactly which one off-hand. Anyway, they're not going to be direct analogues and I don't think we should go too far in trying to place such correlations where they are not immediately obvious. The Gallente are descended from French colonists, we know, for example, but even they have become something else. Even more so for the other bloodlines. They are amalgams of different cultures and in that way unique. I don't really see the Arab connection to Amarr, have to say. There is some faint Persian-flavor sure, but not really anything pointing to Arabic. Now, looking at early Arabs for some inspiration regarding the Nikunni might be appropiate, as they both desert dwelling cultures. Love by nature. Live by luck. Kill by profession.
Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.29 16:26:00 - [8] wasn't so much as trying to say "Amarrians evolved from Arabs or Persians" but simply saying there are paralells, just as in today's world there are parallels between otherwise completely unrelated cultures and societies. Hence why I think it is dangerous to imply one leads from/to another, and also where I pointed out the similarities are with a different time and place on the economic front. And they are similarities. Like Amarr Empire doesn't have the problems of organised crime and gansterism that Russia and much of the former USSR did at the end of communism. Also the Gallente don't have a work ethic and social security model anything like the French, nor such lax laws toward prostitution What I'm merely trying to point out is that many people make an almost 1 to 1 correlation between Amarr and the Catholic church (of old), and although that isn't quite right, a similar comparison to some Arab cultures or those from around the middle east for that matter could easily be made Khaldari khanidpublic : RP channel for supporters of the Kingdom Recruiting
Albert Wittmann	Posted - 2007.11.30 00:40:00 - [9] Look the timeline of the amarr! http://www.eve-online.com/races/amarr_timeline.asp They have catholic roots.
Nomakai Delateriel Amarr Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.11.30 11:12:00 - [10] Originally by: Albert Wittmann Look the timeline of the amarr! http://www.eve-online.com/races/amarr_timeline.asp They have catholic roots. "Unified Catholic Church" means "Unified Universal Church". That doesn't mean that they belong to the roman catholic church as we know it. Heck, that timeline is 1800 years into the future. The Roman catholic church barely existed 1800 years ago and it definitely wasn't called the Roman catholic church back then. ______________________________________________ -You can never earn my respect, only lose it. It's given freely, and only grudgingly retracted when necessary.
Albert Wittmann	Posted - 2007.11.30 12:07:00 - [11] Na, the romans had another religion, but one of the last roman emperors undertook the christian religion ... I think, the roots of the amarr was the christian religion ...
Jacque Custeau Knights of the Minmatar Republic	Posted - 2007.11.30 13:49:00 - [12] I think everyone looks at things like this through the prism of their own experience. I am Egyptian and yet all my characters are Minmatar because when I started this game I saw my people in them. Sure to an outsider the Amarrians with their Emperor is god (sounds like a Pharaoh to me) sound more like Egyptians. But to me, we are a nation that recently emerged from colonial occupation, finding our place in the world. The struggle of a 3rd world nation sounds a lot like the Minmatar. Of course I am wrong the Minmatar are obviously based on the Icelandic people (besides Hellmar said so at the FF). So like I said, you can look at it so many different ways. -------------------
Sofring Eternus Amarr	Posted - 2007.11.30 19:07:00 - [13] I always equated the Amarr empire with the old Roman Empire, complete with Emporer. Especially with the Rome was not built in a day, relates to how the Amarr are slow and steady, especially when you read the backstory of how they were travelling the stars for almost 2 millenium and the Gallente & Caldari caught up to them inside 800 years. Also the part about how they conquered and enslaved, but those slaves and their people eventually became citizins, that was very similar to the Romans. Even the Romans enlisted slaves into their armies, and that was eventually their downfall, because the former slaves would teach the Roman tactics to the rebels. Also instead of simply conquering territories like the Romans because "I came, I saw, I conquered" it became a religous crusade almost like the Fedykin from Children of Dune, making all bow to the power of Moah'dib. --- ΞνΞ ΘΠLІΠΞ Amarr dont need Grr... and RAWR is definately too much, but some Oomph would be nice.
me bored	Posted - 2007.12.01 21:45:00 - [14] I always thought they were based on the papal states.
Mithfindel Gallente St. Julian Social Club	Posted - 2007.12.02 18:31:00 - [15] The races are not based solely on a single template. Well, Gallente are pretty close with the emphasis on the French though there are some parts which are more American-sounding to me. Amarr language, according to third party knowledge claiming to be taken off the EVE China site, is a mix of Bulgarian and Persian. Socially they are, with their Prophet-Emperor (note, the Emperor isn't still God, just first of his Apostles) pretty close to a combination of the ancient Rome and the medieval Church with a touch of imperialist "White Man's Burden".
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.03 06:46:00 - [16] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 03/12/2007 06:46:18 By far the closest RL comparison to Amarr is the Byzantine Empire, AKA the Eastern Roman Empire. It has the right attitude on key issues like the place of the emperor and the rough mix of feudal and bureaucratic empire. I find useing RL comparisons to be misleading, however, so I would suggest ignoring them in favor of just taking what you have on Amarr in its own right. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Spoon Thumb Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.04 23:39:00 - [17] Yeah was just suggesting if people use Rome or Catholicism (sp?) to make comparisons, consider Arabs also? Byzantine does fit quite nicely. Though we all know what happened to the Byzantine Empire ... Khaldari khanidpublic : RP channel for supporters of the Kingdom Recruiting
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.06 02:23:00 - [18] I assume you are referring to its status as the longest lasting western empire period, right? Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Arelius Sarum Amarr Exodus.	Posted - 2007.12.06 11:42:00 - [19] Yes I would think true Amarrians would be very vaguely related to Arabs. In the latest game news, the 7th fleet is referred to as the Saracens, a clear reference to Arabic culture.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.06 21:23:00 - [20] The name of the Admiral is Admiral Saracen. So, no its just them associating with their admiral. Specifically setting up a combative relationship between the Saracens and the Defiants. There is no real comparison with a tribal desert culture and Amarr, though there is some comparison with some of the Islamic Empires (Persian and Ottoman, primarily) and Amarr. And Islam is probably the best surviving religion to use to explain the level of influence religion has within Amarrian culture. But I would repeat that these comparisons are rarely helpful, better to take Amarr as it is. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Scagga Laebetrovo Five Pioneers	Posted - 2008.01.29 14:46:00 - [21] Edited by: Scagga Laebetrovo on 29/01/2008 14:47:35 As a speaker of persian, I can say that the naming system of many systems within the Amarr empire (especially in the derelik region) sound persian. Sasta, Araz, Assah, Salashayama, Janus, Orva, Dysa, Chidah, Uzistoon, Lisudeh, Hasiari, Ejahi...it goes on. Culturally, I would agree that there are elements of Islam, Catholicism, the Roman Empire present. I feel that it is too simplistic to assert that they are linked to one 'primary' culture. It does hold, at least to me, some of the caste/feudal structures. It is strange, so easy to gain understanding but so hard to compare exactly. Edit: added examples San Matari Official forums
nether void Caldari Shrapnel Industries	Posted - 2008.01.29 16:01:00 - [22] That timeline is seriously flawed. They get to the new planet, and in 3500 years they don't populate the entire planet? Furthermore, they have a 500 year war to take control of the planet? Even with our current tech a world war would never last more than 10 years. 500 years? Also, what were they doing for the other 8000 years between the time they finished settling and they crowned an emporer? Surely they would have a population problem way before they ever had a war with the other inhabitants of that planet. I mean think of where our tech will be in 8000 years, and how many people will be on this planet. Pretty off topic, but that timeline really surprises me. --------------------------- CEO Shrapnel Industries "You like to blow s*** up, and we like to make that possible." nethervoid - since '97 [UO\|EQ\|SB\|SWG\|PS\|EVE\|NWN\|VG Beta\|WoW]
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.01.29 18:02:00 - [23] Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 29/01/2008 18:02:46 Originally by: nether void That timeline is seriously flawed. They get to the new planet, and in 3500 years they don't populate the entire planet? They weren't the only ones on the planet. No one human civilization has dominated earth in 3500 years, why would it be different with Amarr? Especially as centuries (at least) of that were spent with them recovering from the complete loss of modern technology. Quote: Furthermore, they have a 500 year war to take control of the planet? Even with our current tech a world war would never last more than 10 years. 500 years? With our current tech campaigns are far faster than they used to be. The first of these wars were almost certainly fought with weaponry we would consider quite primitive. Also such a war is less a single war in the way we think of it, and more a series of wars like the crusades that make a bigger whole. What we would call a war would be a single campaigning season in a much longer conflict that could only end when one side was extinct. When it is taken in that context, 500 years is actually pretty short. Quote: Also, what were they doing for the other 8000 years between the time they finished settling and they crowned an emporer? Surely they would have a population problem way before they ever had a war with the other inhabitants of that planet. The capability to have nearly exponential population growth is a phenomenon that is less than 300 years old. Its a result of vastly improved food production and vastly improved heath care. Both of which are likely to have been lost in the struggle to survive after the EVE gate collapsed. It is likely that for most of that time the Amarr were losing as many people as they were gaining. Infant mortality rates through the roof, famine, pestilence. New alien plagues. Ect. Quote: I mean think of where our tech will be in 8000 years, and how many people will be on this planet. That view requires a view of population and technology as things with constant growth rates. Technology can be lost and population growth rates can plummet. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Garion Avarr Amarr Zero Zero Traders	Posted - 2008.01.29 18:55:00 - [24] One interesting thing to consider are the Kameiras, slave soldiers who are so well indoctrinated that they fully convert in religion and culture to that of thier masters, thinking of themselves not as the same race as their ancestors, but as being the same race as their masters. Very strong parallels can be drawn between the Kameiras and certain groups in Earth history -- the Janissaries come to mind first, the Mamluks are also a good example. And given how little PF there is about the Kameiras, these historical examples of similar groups can certainly provide some interesting ideas to anyone that wants to do more with them. . . . ________________________________ This is not a signature.
Kyra Felann Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2008.01.31 06:32:00 - [25] Originally by: Drethon Personally the Amarr remind me of the middle age Catholics that controlled every aspect of life including sending everyone off to Israel to "reclaim" the holy land... ...and modern day Islamic militants.
The Switch Dust Clique	Posted - 2008.01.31 21:33:00 - [26] Edited by: The Switch on 31/01/2008 21:35:07 Most decidedly a parallel with the Byzantines, the continuation of the Roman Empire btw. It WAS an empire after all, with probably several hundred(!) distinct contributing cultures including the Romans. . . probably far more diverse than our current UN even, considering how amazingly diverse one city or town was from another prior to the consolidation of empire. Massive influxes of slaves and traders, wealthy nobles from backward lands, from all over really. As for Arabs, known at the time as the Nabateans, much of their later culture comes from Byzantine and Alexandrian sources along with the Indo-Asian trade routes. And the the Minmatar, if you really knew anything about the new world THAT is the source; much like California Matar was before the collapse of the Eve Gate a beacon for all those dispossed and disparate immigrants looking for a new start as it IS the most hospitable system climate-wise from what has been said. After 20,000 years they probably started to blend like in the Caribbean, Cali, S. Africa, Brazil or New Orleans. Go to california some time if you don't believe; tho i think a few WASPy Norte Americano corps probably made their way into the Caldari Confederation.
The Switch Dust Clique	Posted - 2008.01.31 21:39:00 - [27] Edited by: The Switch on 31/01/2008 21:42:13 And that bit about the slave soldiers is a great point. And there is kinda something Dune-ish about the whole deal. . . the Arabs, who kinda inherited that part of the world with the Turks, are kinda a logical aesthetic source.
Vabjekf	Posted - 2008.02.04 14:02:00 - [28] Clearly byzantine. This discussion pops up now and then, and byzantium is the clearest single parallel you can draw. Further amarr is more of an eastern orthodox than a roman catholic. If the time line says a unified catholic church that could easily be a more easternized whole. Particularly considering that the west seems to shun religion nowadays=P The ship designs and stations and monuments and stuff also seem much more easternish. So the arab parallel kind of fits. Byzantium is modern day turkey, which is in the middle east. While you could argue over what happens in the next generations before they set out, what is clear that the resources used to draw on by whoever was designing the amarr had a great part of byzantine leaning=p Look at a picture of the hagia sophia, or any important building in constantinople and tell me it doesn't look amarrish to you=p Look at the art also present there. Much more amarrian looking than something you would find further north and west.
Garion Avarr Amarr Zero Zero Traders	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:26:00 - [29] Eh, I'd say a fusion of Byzantine and Ottoman cultures would really be the best parallel. Which, of course, the archetexture one would see in Instanbul/Constantinople would also be. In the same way, I sometimes wonder if the Amarr religion might be based upon a fusion of Christianity and Islam . . . which really isn't a particularly odd idea, since they're both part of the Abrahamic tradition. Also, note that catholic and Roman Catholic are not the same thing. The fact that the ancestors of the Amarr came from the 'Unified Catholic Church' does not necessarily mean that they had their main roots in the Roman Catholic Church -- which includes more than just the Latin Rite (what most people think of when they think of the RCC). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic ________________________________ This is not a signature.
Ellaine TashMurkon CBC Interstellar The Unseen Company	Posted - 2008.02.05 11:04:00 - [30] Edited by: Ellaine TashMurkon on 05/02/2008 11:05:04 I think that a great base for Amarr faith would be belief, that they missed Armageddon :) Proto-Amarrs go thru Eve gate and settle on Amarr/Oris. Eve Gate closes = on the other side the universe has ended. Somethings wrong -> we're not in a New Jerusalem full of reborn saints :O Now, we're a little out of Gods great plan. He'd prefer us fighting Gog and Magog in Armageddon, but we happened to be in wrong galaxy at the time. The world did not end properly and the kingom of heaven is not formed as planned in Book of Apocalypse. Proto-Amarrs were punished by God for this disobeyance by fall of their civilisation (luckily it managed to rebuild). At the same time, they are the only people who can now bring the right order of things and put other people here back in line. Se now we have to Reclaim everything that rightfully belongs to the Kingom of Heaven and reclaim Gods grace for ourselves, build the New Jerusalem by our own hands, finally ending the Apocalypse the proper way :)
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.02.05 13:59:00 - [31] Originally by: Ellaine TashMurkon From muslim culture, I one nice element fits - prayers at set hours. Imagine a space station, 20 million people, hightech everywhere, its 12:00 standard time and EVERYONE stops whatever he's doing, falls on knees and prays for 2 minutes. Its naturally not aplied in military readieness, like spaceship crew when in fight, but otherwise You should plan Your work so You don't operate a crane at axactly 12:00 :) Daily prayers at 11:00 - that's why we have downtime Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Garion Avarr Amarr Zero Zero Traders	Posted - 2008.02.06 20:18:00 - [32] Originally by: Rodj Blake Daily prayers at 11:00 - that's why we have downtime Ah! That makes so much sense! ________________________________ This is not a signature.
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris	Posted - 2008.02.08 04:22:00 - [33] Timed prayers are hardly a trait unique to Islam. Christian monastics do it, for certain. I would suggest that a prayer routine like that is pretty much standard for a truely religious society. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Cipher7	Posted - 2008.02.08 06:59:00 - [34] I think its purposely ambiguous. Each person would view the factions through the lens of their own cultural background. Amarr/Minmatar could be : Egypt/Israelites Rome/Germanic tribes Byzantine Empire/Arabs Ottoman Empire/Armenians Persian Empire/Greeks Personally I have always seen Amarr as Romans and Minmatar as various ethnic tribes. Why I chose Minmatar over Amarr I don't know, because I adore Roman culture.
No'akai	Posted - 2008.02.10 11:23:00 - [35] According to the Amarrian timeline article on this very website, the Amarrians where originally a group of the Unified Catholic Church, which IMO sort of rules out the theory that they originally where Muslims, Arabs, possible, but Muslims, no.
Ellaine TashMurkon CBC Interstellar The Unseen Company	Posted - 2008.02.11 11:16:00 - [36] A religion does not have to be post-muslim to have its elements. Religions affect each other in various ways, and if we look at thousands of years of history, they are just mixed together. So we're free to take whatever element that fits alreday published and authorised fiction :)
Garion Avarr Amarr Zero Zero Traders	Posted - 2008.02.11 18:55:00 - [37] Originally by: No'akai According to the Amarrian timeline article on this very website, the Amarrians where originally a group of the Unified Catholic Church, which IMO sort of rules out the theory that they originally where Muslims, Arabs, possible, but Muslims, no. Not really. Suggests that it is unlikely, yes, Muslims would probably use an Arabic word and not a Greek one. My personal opinion, however, is that this Unified Catholic Church grew out of a combination of Islam and an [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Christianity]Eastern Christian[/url] group. Add a little Mormon flavor in the form of one leader recieving divine instructions, and then having to make a long exodus from persecution. But as I said, that's just my opinion, my personal take on the Amarr religion, or its origins, at least. Culturally, of course, they've had a long time to become something entirely their own, but certainly it seems like they have Byzantine, Pursian, and Ottomon influences, perhaps some general Arabic influence too, I'm not sure. Hmm, aside from the 'Pax' in Pax Amarria, is there any indication in PF that the Amarr know or make use of Latin? The pre-Trinity Bestower had Greek letters on it. . . . ________________________________ This is not a signature.
Heavy MG Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.03.05 00:44:00 - [38] I'm surprised no one has said this already but the Amarr religion and culture most closely resemble ancient Israel/Judaism. First, the Jews consider themselves God's chosen people. The OT is full of stories about God killing their enemies and blessing the people. That salvation and God's promises were to come through the Jewish people were the whole center of their existence. Back then, lots of people had slaves, including the Israelites. Slaves and enemies were all welcome to become a part of Israel if they repented of their ways and worshiped the one true god. Arabs, originally descended from the tribal cultures of the Arabian Peninsula, however up until modern times they had no cultural prevalence. It was really the Persians and Turks that dominated much of the middle ages of the region, and previously it was the Persians and Greeks and not the Arabs at all. There are also similarities to the Byzantine Christian Empire in regards to the Emperor, who is considered God's representative in Eve, the Byzantine Christians considered the emperor to be an icon of Christ reigning on earth. So you put the two together, jumble it up a bit and Amarr Victor!
Ellaine TashMurkon CBC Interstellar The Unseen Company	Posted - 2008.03.05 12:33:00 - [39] Originally by: Heavy MG I'm surprised no one has said this already but the Amarr religion and culture most closely resemble ancient Israel/Judaism. First, the Jews consider themselves God's chosen people. The OT is full of stories about God killing their enemies and blessing the people. Every religion in that area and epoch was like that. Israelite God protected Israelites while Egyptian gods protected Egyptians and Babylonian gods protected Babylonians. The main difference is the fact that Judaism has a very popular book on that topic, and that is because of Christianity. Its hard to refer Israelites to Amarrians because they had no great empire for most of their history, a well prospering large city state was their best, and they had no land for ages.
Benjix	Posted - 2008.03.06 21:27:00 - [40] Edited by: Benjix on 06/03/2008 21:32:08 I have always pictured the Amarr as a mix of cultures, some parts seem like the Roman Empire, even a bit of Egyptian style. As for religion, it seems to not just be based off one type, it seems to have borrowed from different styles of beliefs. And as for the Khanid, they have a lot of characteristics of Japanese and Mongols. Also the ship names do point to many Christian themes(Armageddon, Abaddon, Crusader, Templar etc) But to put it simply, there are too many different styles, themes and characteristics to put as one, so they are their own force, they don't borrow all ideas from just one thing.

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