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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2007.11.30 11:47:00 -
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I think part of the problem is the general players perception of how Ewar should be balanced. I think alot of you think the Amarr, Minmatar & Gallente ewars should be as effective as the Caldari Ewar. It shouldn't and I'm pretty damn sure this was never CCP's intention.
Caldari are given next to useless hulls but with a very powerful saving grace, ECM. Noticeably more powerful than the other races. For the last year or so this hasn't been the case. Damps were preferable because CCP 'over-nerfed' ECM with Revelations. Now they're straightening things out again.
Take away the ECM & all of the ECM hulls are a joke in comparison to the other races Ewar hulls. Our 100% dedicated ECM bonuses also reflect the fact that these ships were designed for one purpose only.
In this particular instance CCP are not looking for balance. Caldari are supposed to be leading the pack when it comes to electronic warfare. It makes up for their other crippling weaknesses in pvp.
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2007.12.01 00:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: welsh wizard
Edited by: welsh wizard on 30/11/2007 23:26:34
I think part of the problem is the general players perception of how Ewar should be balanced. I think alot of you think the Amarr, Minmatar & Gallente ewars should be as effective as the Caldari Ewar. It shouldn't and I'm pretty damn sure this was never CCP's intention.
Caldari are given next to useless hulls but with a very powerful saving grace, ECM. Noticeably more powerful than the other races. For the last year or so this hasn't been the case. Damps were preferable because CCP 'over-nerfed' ECM with Revelations. Now they're straightening things out again.
Take away the ECM & all of the ECM hulls are a joke in comparison to the other races Ewar hulls. Our 100% dedicated ECM bonuses also reflect the fact that these ships were designed for one purpose only.
In this particular instance CCP are not looking for balance. Caldari are supposed to be leading the pack when it comes to electronic warfare. It makes up for their other weaknesses in pvp.
[i]What?[/b]
What is it Goumindong? What are you unable to comprehend this time?
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2007.12.01 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 01/12/2007 01:19:54
Oooo I don't know, perhaps a few of the following observations;
The dedicated bonuses to all the ECM ships where as all the other races Ewar boats have mixed bonuses?
In fact the other races recons even have a second ability!! Wheres the Caldari second ability?
The fact that one of our battleships is entirely dedicated to ECM and nothing else?
The fact that all the Caldari Ewar hulls are significantly weaker than the other races Ewar hulls when fit to operate with their bonuses?
The fact that we're required to use damage mods for our ewar?
The fact that the ECM skilltree is alot longer than all the other ewars skill trees?
The fact that the Caldari race has little going for it in pvp without ECM?
And finally and most importantly the fact that ECM was and will again be the most powerful form of ewar.
Lets hear your logical explanations and reasoning for the above. I really cannot wait!
edit: Actually perhaps a member of CCP staff would just put us out of our misery and let us know one way or the other? ;)
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2007.12.01 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Revnant
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You're quite right, Guess I saw Long Distance Jamming and assumed Frequency Modulation was for ECM only. I stand corrected!
1 reason down, lots to go!
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2007.12.01 02:40:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 01/12/2007 02:41:12
Originally by: Wu Jiun
You are right CCP doesn't look for balance. That doesn't mean its good. Notice though that by your own logic caldaris other weaknesses in pvp shouldn't be solved. Can't have your cake and eat it too or how is that saying?
Theres a difference between intended weaknesses and generally just being rubbish/ineffective, like the Ferox, Moa or Raptor. For example the intention is that Caldari should have a tough time flying alone because of the nature of a shield tank. The intention is also that they're the slowest race because apparently shield tanks, missiles & ECM make up for it! Without making sweeping changes to game mechanics these weaknesses are racial and 'unsolvable' without simpily ignoring 4 years of Eve. This is generally acceptable if not ideal, its what makes the races different afterall.
Now if a ship is just poor at performing its role or laughable in comparison to its racial counter-parts then theres stuff to balance and change! It isn't just Caldari who have problems in this department, Amarr suffer considerably too. in fact all the races do in varying degrees. Some worse than others though.
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2007.12.01 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
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I'm certainly not claiming otherwise! ECM is great as it is (after wednesday) it doesn't need buffing any further. If Goumindong had his way then part time tracking disruptor platforms would be as effective as ECM platforms despite the fact that they've got far more going for them in other areas.
ECM platforms are rubbish for anything apart from ECM. The other races Ewar platforms are generally just very good regardless.
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