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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2763
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Posted - 2012.02.02 16:30:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Tchell Dahnn was a complete ****, but he/she/it at least had the redeeming factor of being funny, fresh and original. Suddenly Ninjas has gone from being just that - something new and interesting - to being rather stale and pastiched. Time for you folks to figure out something new. I said it at the time, and I'm saying it again - Suddenly Ninjas? Moar like Suddenly Ninnies. On the other hand, apparently the only interesting thing you've ever done was grow a mustache.
On the other other hand, you haven't necessarily disagreed with what I've just said.
PS This moustache took a lot of hassle to get, I'll have you know. I had to travel through the EVE Gate to Old Earth, locate the burial place of an ancient troubadour named Freddie Mercury, then clone him and de-moustache him. So there.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2763
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Posted - 2012.02.02 16:32:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:I haven't had pastis in a long time
Pernod Ricard for Lyfe
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
jimmyjam
Deadspace Exploration Conglomerate Clockwork Pineapple
26
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Posted - 2012.02.02 16:47:00 -
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RU serious bro? |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
150
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Posted - 2012.02.02 16:53:00 -
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SN has done nothing BUT evolve over the years, as someone involved from the beginning.
Ninja salvaging as a group was the original innovation. Due to the Lofty scam, we were the only ones able to easily form large fleets and complely suck a mission dry in seconds.
Sadly, CCP stepped in and killed the profession, along with the Lofty scam.
-Noctis (by making salvaging so easy, the salvage became almost worthless) -LVL 4 Loot nerf (now mission runners only care about the bounties- which can't be stolen) -Mission item theft nerf (now mission items respawn so quickly, there is no benefit to taking it)
As SP counts improved, SN evolved into a mission runner ganking corp, pioneering the use of Orcas to fool CNRs and Marauders into shooting at a frigate, then Orca switching into a Hurricane - while earning free sec-status by target painting their NPCs.
Naturally, bears screamed after losing their multibillion dollar Golems, even though it was their own aggression that led to their destruction. CCP nerfs incoming! -Orca nerf #1 and #2. -Sec Status 'harvesting' nerf -Scan strength nerf
There was a period of very successful 'persistant wreck baiting' that occurred last year.... - but CCP stepped in and nerfed that too.
Was later discovered to still be possible to create a persistant wreck, at a higher price. No doubt that CCP will again devote resources to 'fix' this as well - even though the only victims are dishonest wreck thieves like the OP.
Corp infiltration was also fun for awhile. -but CCP changed the rules again, allowing corporations to kick infiltrators - even mid-gank, leading to Concord death.
Wardecs, always a waste of time, are now completely worthless.
Skunkworks figured out how to harvest Incursion runners, but CCP stepped in to save them almost immediately, by screwing up the RR mechanic, leading to RR mods shutting off at inopportune moments in other situations.
So we now spend most of our time suicide ganking. Pretty much the only way left to collect tears efficiently. (and according to the latest Dev Blog on criminality, we are quite good at it....) |
Colonal Kassad
WRY Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.02.02 17:15:00 -
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The amount of fail from the OP is astounding. There should be an IQ test before you can subscribe to this game.
People who understand game mechanics FTW. |
Bisclavret Lais
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
1
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Posted - 2012.02.02 17:26:00 -
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Quote:You have been added as contact From: Smegma Cheesedog Sent: 2012.01.29 22:32
Smegma Cheesedog has added you as contact with Excellent Standing
Oh, Smegma, you shouldn't have. I mean, your infatuation and adoration for us is cute and all but you are just coming on a little bit too strong. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1405
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Posted - 2012.02.02 17:53:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Lady Spank wrote:I haven't had pastis in a long time Pernod Ricard for Lyfe With spring water. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
302
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Posted - 2012.02.02 18:03:00 -
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Smegma Cheesedog wrote:Drake Draconis wrote:Smegma Cheesedog wrote:I have discovered the hard way, that there are groups of pirate flyers who intentinally blow up their own friends in a special hauling ship [iteron some days] with a cargohold full of equipment but also have a specially wrapped packache called "PLEX"
this is not a real PLEX and no matter what , you cannot grab this.
You can however grab everything else in the wreck and fly to a safe station and wait the 15 minutes of death away. I have made millions and millions taking from these wrecks but have been blowed up quite a few times trying. USE CHEAP FAST CHIPS
The pirate gang that does this is called TEARS and had 10-20 people hiding in invisible mode, and unhide themselfs when its time that someone stolen from you They are mean. and wardecced my corp i was in due to me finding their trick out. That is fine i am in new undeckable corp.
These TEARSers are so vicious that they spent 60M on a explosion battleship to kill my 500k ISK frigate.
I must have made them rly mad.
My battleclinic investigation shows TEARS places these fake plex in Perimeter system and in Niarja system.
Welcome to 6-10 months ago. Bit slow on the uptake? i am new to game but not new to fighting back against people who bully
My point is - don't treat everything YOU see as a new thing in this game.
Its rare anything "new" ever shows up in the category of "dirty tricks/scams/greifing tactics" these days.
Instead...ask around FIRST...dont make a bold post saying "OMGWTFBBQLUKOUTITSATARP" Oh and Welcome to EVE Online. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2766
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Posted - 2012.02.02 18:10:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Lady Spank wrote:I haven't had pastis in a long time Pernod Ricard for Lyfe With spring water.
And an ice cube or two, lounging underneath a CInzano umbrella.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Ranger64511
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
19
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Posted - 2012.02.02 18:21:00 -
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Smegma Cheesedog wrote:StonerPhReaK wrote:Smegma Cheesedog wrote:
The pirate gang that does this is called TEARS and had 10-20 people hiding in invisible mode
Wut is invisible mode?Is this like that shout you get in Skyrim? they make their ships invisible. and become visible only when they are already shooting you
Ohh Cloaking. Now it makes sense. Invisible mode that's a new one to me.
But yeah don't think everything you see is "new". This is my gate. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My gate is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my gate is useless. Without my gate, I am useless. |
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Zixie Draco
Tactical Knightmare
59
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Posted - 2012.02.02 18:32:00 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Lady Spank wrote:I haven't had pastis in a long time Pernod Ricard for Lyfe With spring water. And an ice cube or two, lounging underneath a CInzano umbrella.
...are you hitting on Lady Spank? I think you're hitting on Lady Spank. Better be careful...Lady Spank is a man eater ;)
Would you like a kitten? |
Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
33
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Posted - 2012.02.02 19:08:00 -
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Smegma Cheesedog wrote: picking on new users is not a nice attibutte and will have a severe penalties
On this part i could not agree more
In the past we used this as a recruitment, and if we killed a new user at least replace his loses time 10. As we all grow within New eden, regardless if people are stealing or not, its a low trick which i can recoment. Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
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Craggus
Brothers of Madness The Aslyum
11
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Posted - 2012.02.02 19:20:00 -
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Smegma Cheesedog wrote: stuff
I believe there is a game called World of Warcraft somewhere on the Internet you should try out.
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Daemon Ceed
Brotherhood Of Treachery
3
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Posted - 2012.02.02 19:38:00 -
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To whoever it was that left a real PLEX in a shuttle wreck on the Perimeter gate recently, thank you! |
Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company
49
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Posted - 2012.02.02 22:01:00 -
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Solomar Espersei wrote:We have a NATI policy here at TEARS; not anchored, take it.
i fly around i get it |
Aggressive Nutmeg
104
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Posted - 2012.02.02 23:44:00 -
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I like it when I read a thread and actually learn something.
'Invisible Mode' - that is so cool. Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana. |
BuzzyBeagle
Tactical Knightmare
85
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Posted - 2012.02.03 16:16:00 -
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The Sec status and ISK loss for podding the OP via suicide gank will be pale in comparison to the joy i will receive by doing it. SN are solid people.
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Levija Saplina
Sweet Capsuleer Tears
73
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Posted - 2012.02.03 16:28:00 -
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The troll in this thread is strong. |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
402
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Posted - 2012.02.03 17:24:00 -
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BuzzyBeagle wrote:SN are solid people. As opposed to being made of milkshake perhaps?
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Mireidor
Tactical Knightmare
27
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Posted - 2012.02.03 17:25:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:BuzzyBeagle wrote:SN are solid people. As opposed to being made of milkshake perhaps? Strawberry milkshake is delishus. |
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
404
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Posted - 2012.02.03 17:35:00 -
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Potamus Jenkins wrote:Solomar Espersei wrote:We have a NATI policy here at TEARS; not anchored, take it. i fly around i get it I was in SN for a year, and for most of that time, i thought the 'NATI' in Zavulons forum signature was because he was from Cincinatti of something
i am so great
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RiskyFrisky
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
12
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Posted - 2012.02.03 17:52:00 -
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About 100 of my kills came from doing this while I was in TEARS. Keep it up guys. |
Smegma Cheesedog
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.02.03 18:31:00 -
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RiskyFrisky wrote:About 100 of my kills came from doing this while I was in TEARS. Keep it up guys.
congradulations on now having 101 kills.
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MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
117
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Posted - 2012.02.03 22:12:00 -
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Where is this going on? I love watching it from my Prowler in 'Invisible Mode'.
Ran across this a couple times. First time I saw the can and was like 'woah.' Then I check around the gate and saw a lot of people not moving and went 'Woah?'. I then read the details of 'PLEX" and went 'Woah!'. So I flew away and cloaked. Someone else came in a couple minute later and grabbed the can and was gunned down and I went "WOAH!'
"Excellent!" (air guitar)
(so ends my impression of Keanu Reeves) Why are my neocom icons so tiny? Oh, you can widen and narrow the bar. Cool.-á |
Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.02.04 02:07:00 -
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Smegma I like what your trying to do, as you have said you are new to this game.
There is one saying you should ALWAYS remember
"If you find yourself in a fair fight, both sides ****** up."
Don't try and white knight. This isn't the game for it. |
Degren
The Scope Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.02.04 05:01:00 -
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Smegma Cheesedog wrote:USE CHEAP FAST CHIPS
Thats no way to enjoy a chip |
Harlot Hohannson
Eye on Wang Poo
31
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Posted - 2012.02.04 12:07:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/DAvfd.jpg |
Spiderman Blitz
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.02.05 04:53:00 -
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I'm all for ganking but don't really like this. I feel like you should only give aggro to people when you actually take something. If you're in a shuttle and say "Sure I'll take that 1000m3 thing out of the wreck" peolpe still get aggro even though you didn't take anything.
Pretty lame. I mean, cool in terms of gameplay, but it doesn't really make sense in terms of immersion or whatever.
TBH the locks happen so fast that they'd get you regardless.
Hmm... I can't see any downside to changing the aggro rules (from attempted theft to actual theft) other than these kinds of kills stopping. Given that you never could have taken anything to begin with, this smacks of "unfairness" (I kinda just mean "bad" here, like an unfair mechanic where there's an imbalance of risk and reward, this shouldn't be taken to mean that eve should be fair - it's fine the way it is, for the most part). |
Dasrufken
Nova Ardour
3
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Posted - 2012.02.05 08:57:00 -
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TBH tears are pretty bad.. |
Spiderman Blitz
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.02.05 23:01:00 -
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No no, they're not tears. I do sometimes ninja loot outside trade hubs, and I most often die as a result (much more than 50% of the time), but the risk and reward are well balanced and it's an entertaining time sink while you're waiting for something. As I said, the attempted theft aggro mechanic is bad because there should be a potential reward whenever you aggro someone, in principle.
That makes sense, right? When you aggro someone on a gate, you're balancing the chance of killing them (and therefore entertainment, their mods, or whatever strategic value killing them holds) against the risk of not being able to use the gate for a while, taking into consideration also the cost of your ship. And they can't get aggro until you actually DO something to them. If you try to web them in a rookie ship from 25km or whatever, they don't get aggro.
I don't think you should give people aggro for attempting to move cargo that doesn't fit into your ship. You can still do your scam, just make the cargo item smaller, so that more people can loot it. That would probably mean that you would have to make more wrecks, but that's fair and balanced, right? If the issue here is the size of courier containers then maybe the CSM needs to do something about that.
As it stands, the current system is just bad game design.
Also, just as an aside, it seems to me that in Eve you're always waiting. Eve: The Waiting Game. |
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