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Darth Sage Amarr En-Slavers	Posted - 2007.11.30 00:14:00 - [1] The god of the amarr people is dead and false we need to wake up and know that the children of amarr must read the apocryphia that the clergy of the false god tries to deny you for the words of the blooded one will not be denied nor silenced with mockery and pathetic attempts dismiss it as so many here in the summit try to do! ______________________________ En-Slavers we follow the true path of the sani sabik...
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Dichotomy Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.11.30 00:35:00 - [2] Ah, Sage. Gonna have to agree with you here. Well, on the first part anyway. If it does exist, the God of Amarr is certainly not worthy of worship - he must be fought tooth and nail. However, you get SO close to at least a semblanceo f moral decency, and then you tell us to worship ANOTHER very, very false god. You fail. ----- I never sleep. I wait.
Darth Sage Amarr En-Slavers	Posted - 2007.11.30 01:13:00 - [3] We all worship the blooded one in some shape or form we all offer up offerings when ever we spill blood or destroy a ship she is the side of us that takes joy in seeing the enemy explode or erupt in a fountin of blood. Some call her fate others lady luck but we all wroship her isn some form or way for she favours the strong and the prepared. ______________________________ En-Slavers we follow the true path of the sani sabik...
Drakonus Laerdon Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.11.30 01:17:00 - [4] I hope God has some special torture awaiting you once he condemns your soul to Hell, vile heretic. The sooner your filth is gone, the better. --------------- Non Nobis, Domine, Non Nobis, Sed nomini tuo da gloriam.
Darth Sage Amarr En-Slavers	Posted - 2007.11.30 01:59:00 - [5] How can he when he does not even exist? You worship falsely that which the clergy forces before your eyes, why do you think they try to keep you reading the forbidden texts? Because they fear what is written in them for they are weak! ______________________________ En-Slavers we follow the true path of the sani sabik...
Hasek Caldari-Raata Heavy Metals The Omni Federation	Posted - 2007.11.30 02:17:00 - [6] nuff said
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.30 05:26:00 - [7] You know, there is a very short list of reasons I might concievably work together with PIE. Killing Darth Sage would be one of them. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Dichotomy Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.11.30 10:53:00 - [8] You know, Nachshon, you're totally right. At least Rodj Blake is insane in a way that only offends Logic. Darth Onion seems to be insane in ways that offend acting. ----- I never sleep. I wait.
G0rF Gallente The Causality Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.30 11:11:00 - [9] Darth Sage: Loud, Insane, but ultimately harmless. Oh, and such comedic talent.
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.12.02 11:05:00 - [10] The old gods are dead. Be it those of the Amarr or others. All that is left is us the new posthuman Demi-Gods. Forge your own future without the shackles of the past.
Lucius Vindictus Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris	Posted - 2007.12.02 15:07:00 - [11] Blasphemy! To question god is to embrace heresy! It wounds me to see Amarrians fall so deep that they pervert the teachings of the holy scriptures.
Darina Rea Naqam	Posted - 2007.12.02 19:03:00 - [12] Originally by: G0rF Darth Sage: Loud, Insane, but ultimately harmless. Oh, and such comedic talent. Agreed. _________ Time is on our side.
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Dichotomy Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.12.02 19:26:00 - [13] Originally by: Lucius Vindictus Blasphemy! To question god is to embrace heresy! It wounds me to see Amarrians fall so deep that they pervert the teachings of the holy scriptures. Allow me to introduce you to every single Amarrian Loyalist ever. ----- The views expressed in these posts, while inarguably correct, are not neccessarily the views of my corporation or alliance. I never sleep. I wait.
Avel Kereka Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.12.02 23:18:00 - [14] Originally by: Heartstone The old gods are dead. Be it those of the Amarr or others. All that is left is us the new posthuman Demi-Gods. Forge your own future without the shackles of the past. Posthuman Demi-Gods? Who might those be? Jovians? Oh right, enlightened individualistic pod-pilots such as yourself who could be crushed by any of the empires in a second if you got too far out of line. Stop flattering yourselves.
Tyr Vaantau Amarr Peregrin Avionics	Posted - 2007.12.03 02:23:00 - [15] Six of one. Half a dozen of the other. ------
Gaven Lok'ri Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.12.03 02:31:00 - [16] Quote: You know, there is a very short list of reasons I might concievably work together with PIE. Killing Darth Sage would be one of them. I somehow doubt you actually would need our help for that task. Though if you wish to let us know where you are when you have him cornered, we would be perfectly glad to kill the winner of any fighting between EM and Dark Sage. Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public'
Silas Vitalia	Posted - 2007.12.03 02:40:00 - [17] Originally by: Darth Sage We all worship the blooded one in some shape or form we all offer up offerings when ever we spill blood or destroy a ship she is the side of us that takes joy in seeing the enemy explode or erupt in a fountin of blood. Some call her fate others lady luck but we all wroship her isn some form or way for she favours the strong and the prepared. Revan? Is that you? ....I suppose someone had to step up to the plate and start spewing this nonsense again. -Silas
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.12.03 13:18:00 - [18] Originally by: Avel Kereka Posthuman Demi-Gods? Who might those be? As I stated we all are. We, who through technology and trainning, have become more than we were. More than ever dreamt of by our ancestors. We who can live forever, unchain the very stars from thier place in the heavens and reach out with our minds and affect the very fabic of space itself. It is unfortunate that this is not recognised by all of the Post-Humans alive today but we all have the rest of time to come to many realisations about our new nature. The almost forced manner of our evolution gave us little time to understand what we were to become. Originally by: Avel Kereka Jovians? Funny you should bring them up Avel as they were the ones who showed us the way and provided us the means to follow them without asking for anything in return. I of course understand your... dislike for them given your races recent history with them. I do not class them above us. I do not see them as more than us. I simply see them as teachers of our new aspect. Whilst none of us follow them same path as them they do have things to teach us. As much as we have to learn from each other. A thing you and your comrades do not seem to wish to do. Originally by: Avel Kereka Oh right, enlightened individualistic pod-pilots such as yourself who could be crushed by any of the empires in a second if you got too far out of line. Stop flattering yourselves. I fail to see how. We cannot be killed and our voice will be heard. There is more and more of us each day. We are free from them now. There are those of you, afriad of what you have become, who still cling childlike to what you once knew and for that I don't blame you. The adjustment to what we now are must be a difficult one for those indoctrinated so much into a path that does not value the indivdual. In that I pity you.
Avel Kereka Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.12.03 16:46:00 - [19] First of all, technological advancement without God's guidance is hardly advancement--we've become excellent pilots and merchants, but directionless scientific development will lead precisely to the condition your beloved "teachers" suffer from. The Jovians are but a husk of their former selves, with all the power they could ask for but lacking the one thing they miss most: a soul. If you reject the notion of souls, then simply look at the dreaded Disease their race bears--either way, science without morality damns us. Also, if you break empire laws I'm sure you'll notice death and/or crippling fines are the order of the day. You may awaken as a clone a few moments later, but eventually you won't be able to set foot in empire space any longer (for any significant period of time, anyway). You may live on the fringes where the empires may not yet reach, but such an existence is hardly godly--it's running away from the big stick that would otherwise get you. In the end, you're an Intaki who works for a corporation that makes money and has rules/doctrines. You may be powerful, well-read and wealthy--but you are still human. Pray you don't find out what it means to actually not be human.
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.12.03 18:19:00 - [20] Edited by: Heartstone on 03/12/2007 18:21:11 The Jovians are not beloved by me they are simply the foreruners of us. They teach us by existing. Much like you ask someone who has performed a task before for advice the Jovians can show us, by example, what is the next step along the path. They may show this by what they are or what they aren't. Becoming as they are is not our destiny for we are different from them in many other aspects. I do reject the concept of the Soul as a thing that can be damned or saved. Morality is, without question, something that is highly important on the path we are taking. I reject utterly that this morality we use should be based on a common doctrinal code passed down and manuipulated by past mortals for thier own benefit. Where we find this morality that we are to use for our individual selves is a personal thing and far be it from me to deny someone's right to take some of thier codes from the past. In fact we ourselves take form the past in many ways. Looking only backwards is not the path we should be treading. There has not been any of us before and older morality systems are, at least partly, inapplicable to those who's lives will span eternity. As a side point I also see no need to bow to a regime of any sort that I will see fade away over the years. But his of course is hardly what we are discussing. Yes I can be killed by the various Empires forces but this is not the same as being crushed by them as you said before. Death is no longer a thing that can stop us and that alone requires we must look more careful at our own morality and how it now applies. Death is a minor inconvience and certainly not something that in anyway stops me from being who I am or doing what I wish to. As for your comments about not being able to set foot in Empire Space if I continue to break laws well that is most definatly not true. Everyday I see wanted criminals with extremely low concord sancitoned security standings and standings towards the Amarrian Empire happily shopping in Amarr itself. Yes my movements can be restricted to an extent by certain bodies and eventually I guess it is possible that I may have to resign myself to only being able to wander the majority of the systems in this beautiful universe. Only being able to stare in wonder at a most of the wonders available to me. Your Big stick is ephemeral at best as not only is it, in the main untrue, but the time in which I am thusly restricted would be fleeting indeed compared to my now eternal lifespan. I am indeed an Intaki. In fact half Intaki but that is niether here nor there. I do not however work for a corporation who makes money. I am a Free Captain in the Star Fraction. We fight for a cause. We fight for our future as Post-Humans.
Kaleigh Doyle Heavenly Bodies	Posted - 2007.12.03 18:57:00 - [21] I know I'm never going to hear the end of this back at the pilot's lounge, but I dare say Mr. Sage might be onto something. Only a woman could handle such a healthy appetite for wanton destruction and merciless cruelty. And they say the Amarr aren't progressive!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Dichotomy Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.12.03 19:22:00 - [22] Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle I know I'm never going to hear the end of this back at the pilot's lounge, but I dare say Mr. Sage might be onto something. Only a woman could handle such a healthy appetite for wanton destruction and merciless cruelty. And they say the Amarr aren't progressive! Y'know Kaleigh, I'm looking at this statement really hard, trying to pick it apart... and I just can't. I can't find a logical objection to it. ----- The views expressed in these posts, while inarguably correct, are not neccessarily the views of my corporation or alliance. I never sleep. I wait.
Avel Kereka Amarr The Aegis Militia Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.12.03 20:34:00 - [23] Quote: We fight for a cause. We fight for our future as Post-Humans. And like any cause, you are a bunch of people organized into a group who make money (you do, otherwise you'd have no ships, food or clothing) as well as provide each other with companionship and security. Do you see what I'm getting at here? You're all still human, and you're a small society. If all the empires were to dissapear tomorrow and be replaced by SF, you would rapidly morph into something resembling the present empires. If you didn't, you wouldn't be able to meet the needs of humanity and you'd quickly be sidelined in favour of someone who knew how to govern realistically. A caveman might look upon a relatively unimpressive piece of technology--let's say a modern office building on New Caldari--and deem those who dwell within gods. Those within would probably chuckle a bit at the notion, and carry on with their day. Pods are just a fancier office building. The majority of pod-pilots simply smile at your hubris, and continue on with their day.
MirrorGod Heretic Army The Covenant Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.03 20:50:00 - [24] God doesn't exist. Hell of a discovery you made there Sage. We'd all appreciate less out of your mouth.
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.12.03 21:29:00 - [25] Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Quote: You know, there is a very short list of reasons I might concievably work together with PIE. Killing Darth Sage would be one of them. I somehow doubt you actually would need our help for that task. Though if you wish to let us know where you are when you have him cornered, we would be perfectly glad to kill the winner of any fighting between EM and Dark Sage. You're probably right. If I knew of his location, and he was in Amarr space, and I didn't have the ability to organize a gang of my own, I'd find a way to tell you. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.12.03 21:54:00 - [26] Originally by: Avel Kereka Edited by: Avel Kereka on 03/12/2007 20:49:51 And like any cause, you are a bunch of people organized into a group who make money (you do, otherwise you'd have no ships, food or clothing) as well as provide each other with companionship and security. Do you see what I'm getting at here? You're all still human, and you're a small society. I see precisely what you are getting at Avel and I think we are getting closer to understanding each other in some regards at least. To be honest we are not exactly as you descirbe as each individual member of Star Fraction supplies him or herself. As for companionship and security these are indeed provided by our associatign together. However in itself these are not proof of beign human. Indeed a large number of different speices form groups for the same reasons and if these can be attributed "down" the genetic path so to speak surely it is also possible to see this in more evolved species. We are not denying that we were once human. We are not saying that we have no vestiges of human left in us. Originally by: Avel Kereka If all the empires were to dissapear tomorrow and be replaced by SF, you would rapidly morph into something resembling the present empires. Ah this is maybe where you fail to understand what we fight for. We are not fighting to replace anyone. We do not wish to hold space or to govern the populus. We wish to be free and for our sovereign rights to be acknowledged. Yes some of what we belive are our rights are in direct opposition with the common mentality and provokes confrontation. These are what we believe in none the less and we pursue them vigerously. Originally by: Avel Kereka A caveman might look upon a relatively unimpressive piece of technology--let's say a modern office building on New Caldari--and deem those who dwell within gods. Those within would probably chuckle a bit at the notion, and carry on with their day. Pods are just a fancier office building. The majority of pod-pilots simply smile at your hubris, and continue on with their day. And such pilots would also smile at your religious convictions in much the same way. It is the way of the universe. We do not expect everyone to believe as we do and we do not seek to convert the "unbelievers" so to speak at least not to the extent where we expet everyone to follow the same path as we do. As to defining what constitues divinity or not... well I cannot see us being able to hammer out a definition between us anytime soon but we have millenia to do it in. And I do not belive we are gods. I believe we are a very advanced version of Humans. One that has surpassed human capability and has moved beyond the natural boundries. Demi-Gods may have been, to your mind, a poor choice of words to describe this but I think it is the best description. Originally by: Avel Kereka Oh, and keep in mind only God is immortal--all it takes is a malfunction in the mind transfer process, a death outside your pod or the destruction of your facilities at an inoppertune moment to meet the end that awaits us all. We may live for a long time, but we are not immortal. Well here we just have to leave it as I don't think we want to delve to deep into "What is God" etc.
Ardan Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:18:00 - [27] Originally by: Nachshon You know, there is a very short list of reasons I might concievably work together with PIE. Killing Darth Sage would be one of them. Ok, Lets form a Grand alliance, UK, EM, PIE, CVA, SF, and anyone else who wants to join. We can call it the Anti Sage. Of course a few conditions would have to be met first. Like the release of all my brothers and sisters in captivity. You know, minor things like that. "Let them hate us as long as they Fear us." Colligula
Jonny JoJo Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:37:00 - [28] Originally by: Ardan Originally by: Nachshon You know, there is a very short list of reasons I might concievably work together with PIE. Killing Darth Sage would be one of them. Ok, Lets form a Grand alliance, UK, EM, PIE, CVA, SF, and anyone else who wants to join. We can call it the Anti Sage. Of course a few conditions would have to be met first. Like the release of all my brothers and sisters in captivity. You know, minor things like that. Only a Plesure dear Sir. Please, drop by one one of our slave pens, and we shall be only to delighted to re-acquaint you with your heathen Refresh to see next Real Life CCP sig
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Dichotomy Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.12.06 14:39:00 - [29] If the Amarrians released the slaves, I would gladly devote my every waking hour to scouring the scourge of the Blood Raiders and their ilk from... well, everywhere. ----- The views expressed in these posts, while inarguably correct, are not neccessarily the views of my corporation or alliance. I never sleep. I wait.
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.12.06 15:39:00 - [30] Originally by: Ardan Originally by: Nachshon You know, there is a very short list of reasons I might concievably work together with PIE. Killing Darth Sage would be one of them. Ok, Lets form a Grand alliance, UK, EM, PIE, CVA, SF, and anyone else who wants to join. We can call it the Anti Sage. Darth Sage and the En-Slavers(BOBBY] corporation is a neutral entitiy to Star Fraction. Therefore Star Fraction will not engage in any hostile actions against Darth Sage or his corp until such time as they warrant us setting them to red.
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.12.06 23:30:00 - [31] Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Ardan Originally by: Nachshon You know, there is a very short list of reasons I might concievably work together with PIE. Killing Darth Sage would be one of them. Ok, Lets form a Grand alliance, UK, EM, PIE, CVA, SF, and anyone else who wants to join. We can call it the Anti Sage. Darth Sage and the En-Slavers(BOBBY] corporation is a neutral entitiy to Star Fraction. Therefore Star Fraction will not engage in any hostile actions against Darth Sage or his corp until such time as they warrant us setting them to red. The guy eats babies. That good enough reason for you? ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom
McScruff Grudjorn Logistics	Posted - 2007.12.07 00:15:00 - [32] Heart, you are replying to this topic so i can only assume you have read Daft Sage's rant. Surely thats reason enough? ______________________________________ Warning: May contain traces of sarcasm

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