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Orin Valari	Posted - 2007.11.30 21:54:00 - [1] Now, I've never flown a Command Ship, and I know is going to sound quite N00bish. But what does the Nighthawk really have over, say, the Drake? Besides resists, it looks to be about the same but costing a hell of a lot more. Is it really worth all the extra cost? Am I fitting it wrong? Is EFT fibbing to me (which I know happens on occasion!)
Shilikahn	Posted - 2007.11.30 22:09:00 - [2] DPS.. Resists.. a whole lot more skills.. Worth every penny in missions....
Alchemos Gallente Middle School Comedy Club	Posted - 2007.11.30 22:10:00 - [3] Nighthawk is really only worth it for missions. Drake is almost as good for pvp. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
GruFF83 V i r u s	Posted - 2007.11.30 22:11:00 - [4] those extra resist make a hell of difference. The command ships also allows you to have warfare links for gang bonuses (sheild, range bonuses etc).
Impolite Andevil The Shadow Knights Division of Eden	Posted - 2007.11.30 22:13:00 - [5] The Nighthawk tank is a lot stronger and it has better DPS. Couple that with the precision bonus, and the Nighthawk is a very scary ship for any small ships to be around. It can also field a strong take without compromising its DPS, something the Drake has trouble with. A good Nighthawk fit is the following: 6 HML 2's 1 Dual 180 mm Autocannon 2 2 LSE 2's 1 Photon Scattering Field 2 2 Invuln Field 2's 1 PDS 2 1 SPR 2 3 BCS 2's 2x Shield Purger rigs 5x T2 medium drones. That does 459 DPS on my skills and has a pretty tough tank to break.
Verlaine Glariant Knights of the Flame Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.12.01 00:20:00 - [6] Edited by: Verlaine Glariant on 01/12/2007 00:24:47 The Nighthawk is the best non-capital Caldari ship out there. Simple as that. Now: Originally by: "Alchemos" Nighthawk is really only worth it for missions. That's a noobish statement. Nighthawk is ALWAYS a deadly ship. No matter what you use it for. Verlaine Glariant. Tactical Weapons Specialist.
arbalesttom Caldari Glauxian Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.01 02:03:00 - [7] Edited by: arbalesttom on 01/12/2007 02:03:15 Originally by: Verlaine Glariant Edited by: Verlaine Glariant on 01/12/2007 00:24:47 The Nighthawk is the best non-capital Caldari ship out there. Simple as that. I REALLY hope you ment 'the nighthawk is the best non capital tanker out there, and the crappiest commandship ever exept for...tanking...' Nice hamster! - Mindstar Thanks! Phear this sig! - Cortes Your sigs are cool! I wont touch them anymore! - Cortes
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.12.01 03:40:00 - [8] 500-ish DPS up to 80+ km against most targets (70-ish m expradius, 930-ish expvelo and 1500 falloff), or 700-ish DPS at short/mid range (up to 20km) against slower/larger targets, or 450-ish DPS over 35km against small (40-ish m sig) and averagely fast (1250 m/s with 1500 m/s falloff)... I wouldn't call that crappy DPS, no matter how you try to spin it. C\|S\|I\|N\|x.
Ipos	Posted - 2007.12.01 05:59:00 - [9] Edited by: Ipos on 01/12/2007 05:59:27 It's not a great solo ship and in a larger gang the difference between the two is rather negligible aside from the command module since by the time you do get targeted the outcome has most likely already been decided. The difference in DPS is not likely to swing the favour of the outcome either... - However in small gangs or duos the NH greatly outshines the Drake.
Belce Caldari ADAMA Corps	Posted - 2007.12.01 06:16:00 - [10] Well if it is a command ship, I would think the first thing it does well is make other people in your gang look good. Truth is Truth
Feyran Loa'thin	Posted - 2007.12.01 07:46:00 - [11] sigh yet again people forget the most important aspect of any ship in a sci-fi game... it looks 87% cooler. Quote: "To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost." - Gustave Flaubert
Sir Dancealot	Posted - 2007.12.01 08:42:00 - [12] Originally by: Feyran Loa'thin sigh yet again people forget the most important aspect of any ship in a sci-fi game... it looks 87% cooler. sigh yet again people forget the most important aspect of any argument on a forum... don't exaggerate. More like 80% Originally by: Incantare Thread does not deliver. I was expecting a story, funny, surprising or otherwise interesting. Instead I got to read Kehmor's smacking. Awesome.
Merin Ryskin FinFleet Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.01 09:45:00 - [13] The Nighthawk is 90% of a good ship, held back only by crippled fittings. Fitting heavy missiles (not even HAMs!), a MWD (mandatory on all pvp ships) and a gang mod (it's a command ship!) takes more than your grid available at max skills. Fitting even the most basic tank (whether passive or active + injector) requires multiple RCUs. Not even PDUs, which at least give you more cap and shield, you don't have enough low slots to do that. And even if you manage to get a working setup, it's easy to run out of CPU as well! This is of course completely absurd, none of the other command ships have fitting issues like this.
Lars Lodar Caldari Arachnea Phoenix Battalion	Posted - 2007.12.01 10:41:00 - [14] Originally by: Merin Ryskin The Nighthawk is 90% of a good ship, held back only by crippled fittings. Fitting heavy missiles (not even HAMs!), a MWD (mandatory on all pvp ships) and a gang mod (it's a command ship!) takes more than your grid available at max skills. Fitting even the most basic tank (whether passive or active + injector) requires multiple RCUs. Not even PDUs, which at least give you more cap and shield, you don't have enough low slots to do that. And even if you manage to get a working setup, it's easy to run out of CPU as well! This is of course completely absurd, none of the other command ships have fitting issues like this. Yeah I was rather saddened that there was no boost to the nighthawks fittings in Trinity. I love my NH but it can seriously use like 50-75 more CPU and like 300 more Grid. Although I think it should do a little bit more damage to set it apart from the drake, I'd be one happy camper if I was able to fit a decent setup that included a MWD and/or a Warfare Link

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