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Vicker Lahn'se
Anominous
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Posted - 2012.02.01 18:42:00 -
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What exactly is it about a warp scrambler that allows it to shut down a MWD? Is it the 2 points of scrambling strength? Would two disruptors be able to shut down a MWD, or is there some kind of hidden stat that scramblers have and disruptors lack? |
Dark Pangolin
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
52
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Posted - 2012.02.01 18:44:00 -
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They have the stat called "Its programmed to do that"...seriously it does that because CCP programmed it to. That is all. |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.02.01 18:55:00 -
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I think it might be the stat named "activationBlockedStrenght" (no, that isn't a typo on my part). It doesn't really matter though, the reason is because CCP says so. |
Hrett
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.02.01 21:00:00 -
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Vicker Lahn'se wrote:What exactly is it about a warp scrambler that allows it to shut down a MWD? Is it the 2 points of scrambling strength? Would two disruptors be able to shut down a MWD, or is there some kind of hidden stat that scramblers have and disruptors lack?
Its not the number of points it applies, if that is what you are asking. Its a feature of scrams. i.e. 2 or 50 disruptor points wont shut down a MWD. 1 scram will. |
Veneth
Twilight Paradox
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Posted - 2012.02.01 21:26:00 -
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It's not really a hidden stat. Says in the description that scrams shut down mwds |
Nalha Saldana
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
106
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Posted - 2012.02.02 00:41:00 -
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Veneth wrote:It's not really a hidden stat. Says in the description that scrams shut down mwds
But not in the attributes where it probably should be. |
Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.02 01:09:00 -
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It's a recent-ish change.
They wanted to give ABs and scrams a more clearly defined role in PVP.
Previously scrams were just shorter ranged warp disruptors.
It's not it being two points.
Two long points will not toggle off an MWD. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
793
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Posted - 2012.02.02 09:57:00 -
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Annie Anomie wrote:It's a recent-ish change.
They wanted to give ABs and scrams a more clearly defined role in PVP.
Previously scrams were just shorter ranged warp disruptors.
It's not it being two points.
Two long points will not toggle off an MWD.
Unfortunately DS AB's are often more expensive than the best T1/T2 faction hull to hit the ridiculous +1.2B for A-types 10MN AB's, witch is the double price of a simple naked carrier....seriously CCP?
The only ships with AB bonus being those already faster there's no real reason to use something else than meta AB or T2 version for regular pvp uses, if you use something else then be ready to cry hard when you loose it.
lol at Tengus/lokis at 1.5B eve-kill announced when very often a single of those mods is already that price.(10MN AB's - Shield boosters/hardeners/platings) |
kyrv
hirr
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.02.02 11:14:00 -
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A disruptor disrupt's the computer systems which engage warp and a scrambler disrupts all mechanisms to engage warp is what I believed. |
Batelle
HOMELE55
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Posted - 2012.02.02 15:39:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:
Unfortunately DS AB's are often more expensive than the best T1/T2 faction hull to hit the ridiculous +1.2B for A-types 10MN AB's, witch is the double price of a simple naked carrier....seriously CCP?
The only ships with AB bonus being those already faster there's no real reason to use something else than meta AB or T2 version for regular pvp uses, if you use something else then be ready to cry hard when you loose it.
non-sequiter much? |
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Wacktopia
Noir.
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Posted - 2012.02.02 15:48:00 -
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Batelle wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:
Unfortunately DS AB's are often more expensive than the best T1/T2 faction hull to hit the ridiculous +1.2B for A-types 10MN AB's, witch is the double price of a simple naked carrier....seriously CCP?
The only ships with AB bonus being those already faster there's no real reason to use something else than meta AB or T2 version for regular pvp uses, if you use something else then be ready to cry hard when you loose it.
non-sequiter much?
What's a non-sequiter, something you don't cut the roses with? 
Apparently we're getting censored now. |
infra52x
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.02 20:20:00 -
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Annie Anomie wrote:It's a recent-ish change.
They wanted to give ABs and scrams a more clearly defined role in PVP.
Previously scrams were just shorter ranged warp disruptors.
It's not it being two points.
Two long points will not toggle off an MWD.
Will a scam still turn off the mwd of a ship that is still able to warp away due to having a warp strength of 2+? I'm thinking yes the scram will still turn off but thought I would ask.
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.02.02 20:23:00 -
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Nalha Saldana wrote:Veneth wrote:It's not really a hidden stat. Says in the description that scrams shut down mwds But not in the attributes where it probably should be.
Would you mind pointing out where the bonuses on your ship are shown in the attributes, then? |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
445
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Posted - 2012.02.02 20:32:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Unfortunately DS AB's are often more expensive than the best T1/T2 faction hull to hit the ridiculous +1.2B for A-types 10MN AB's, witch is the double price of a simple naked carrier....seriously CCP?
The only ships with AB bonus being those already faster there's no real reason to use something else than meta AB or T2 version for regular pvp uses, if you use something else then be ready to cry hard when you loose it.
That's caused by something called "supply and demand" and is working as intended. Keep in mind that the only source of A-Type 10MNs is from explorers running 6/10s in lowsec, there is very low supply and there are people willing to pay that much for the very best; that's why they cost that much. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
311
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Posted - 2012.02.02 22:11:00 -
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infra52x wrote:Will a scam still turn off the mwd of a ship that is still able to warp away due to having a warp strength of 2+? I'm thinking yes the scram will still turn off but thought I would ask.
You would be correct. The scram nullifying a MWD is totally independent of warp core strength.
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Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
32
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Posted - 2012.02.03 12:28:00 -
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It's one of those things in game that is really all about the mechanics and game-play imo |
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