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Stormdeath	Posted - 2007.12.02 17:48:00 - [1] I am really hopping someone in CCP DEV area reads this post. There is something that CCP has over looked reguarding the introduction of the Roqual, JF's and the new Black Ops Ships. That is ICE! CCP is soon going to drasticly increase the demand of ICE Isotopes within the game. Yet the supply has not increased in the least. Just look at what has happened to the price of OXYGEN ISO with the introduction of the Roqual. Price has increased about 30%. The Supply of Ice products has not and is not slated to increase. Lets be honest ICE mining sucks and is not all that profitable even with the increase in price. For one carrier run into 0.0 where I go, it cost 40m isk round trip. It would take me 7-10 hrs running 2 macks to mine the amount of ice needed. I don't mine ice becuase it take less time to mine the Crokite or Bistot I need to pay for the ice. This is the situation for alot of people. CCP MARK my words if you do not introduce some serious changes to ICE mining the price of ISO will double within 3 months, with OXYGEN reaching 800-900 isk per uint. Please address this problem before it gets out of hand.
Ellaine TashMurkon CBC Interstellar	Posted - 2007.12.02 18:07:00 - [2] But much higher ice prices would not really be bad for the game. Poeple will think twice before putting 50 towers for POS war or jumping 100 dreads to scare someone. Ice will grow till semi-afk mackinaw will make about same profit as semi-afk hulk on veld. If highsec icefields dry out totally and there will be only lowsec ice mining - that would double them. And good for the miners, reaon to go lowsec and risk for profit is a fun element of miner profession that was lost by mineral price canges after drone regions.
Genarus	Posted - 2007.12.02 18:41:00 - [3] Good for miners but bad for Capitol ship pilots. It should balance out in the end.
Macmuelli Gallente Gallente Mercantile Exchange Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.12.02 20:16:00 - [4] "Solar Panels or powerplants" anchored at the pos conected which lowerrs the fuel costs coud lower the ice shortage. "Ein jeder ernte Ruhm auf seine Weise.....Gunnar von Hlidarendi " EVE FAN since 2003
Reggie Stoneloader Teikoku Trade Conglomerate Visions of Warfare	Posted - 2007.12.02 21:01:00 - [5] Or sovereignty. Ice has always been a pain, the trick is that it's almost all mined in high-sec by persons of questionable character. So legitimate miners can't influence the market enough to make it worthwhile. Ice mining is the biggest time sink in EvE, and is best done by a guy with eight accounts in high-sec empire. Tailor made for the aforementioned disreputable types. A quantum shift is called for. Crusades: Bounties & Security Status
Empire marketslave	Posted - 2007.12.02 22:03:00 - [6] considering that ice cubes have like 67k a piece i dont think we can run out of ice two things will happen the cost of strot will almost doubble to meet the new demand people will start mining more ice to meet the new demand of strot which will bring down the cost of most isotopes
Shaemell Buttleson Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.12.03 00:48:00 - [7] Plenty of Icebelts in lowsec that noone mines! Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2007.12.03 01:16:00 - [8] Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson Plenty of Icebelts in lowsec that noone mines! Yeah. Since being tied to an ice block for 4 minutes or more in gankland is a death sentence. Ice mining is, as Reggie said, best done by a guy with 8 accounts and a large supply of bree. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Stormdeath	Posted - 2007.12.03 04:48:00 - [9] Guys the whole point is to get away form the macro miners being the ones that mine ice. unless ice minign is fixed to be more in line with isk per hr for say ratting or 0.0 mining. Say a 0.0 Ice ore that yeilds 1000units of iso or evn 1500 units per unit of ore. then Ice will be maintianed as a feirly steady macro mining opportunity. Okay and for the guy who mentioned the price of stront. What? i am not sure the point you were trying to make. but stront is not the problem mining the amount of stront you need is easy especialy in 0.0. people this post was about making Ice Mining more accessalbe for cap ship pilots and tower operators. Plus a nice little isk maker is always good SD
Ellaine TashMurkon CBC Interstellar	Posted - 2007.12.03 10:37:00 - [10] Macro? You can fit a Mackinaw so it mines for 20 minutes without any attention. You can easily read a book or manage other 5 mackinaws and a hauler. There is no need to use a macro, and if someone is using a macro and risks ban, he's better off mining veldspar. Mining ice a perfectly legal way to be almost afk, I think more people do so then use a macro. I love playing afk and if I had less stuff to move with a freighter, I'd buy a mackinaw :)
Eleana Tomelac Gallente Through the Looking Glass	Posted - 2007.12.03 13:27:00 - [11] Ice mining AFK... I have good ones about that, I have to guard my corpmates so I pop NPCs because they don't even notice that they are being attacked... Feels like being a shepherd... So, you think that introducing a ship that increases the mining productivity will make an increase in the ice? It will balance by itself I think! Anyway, it's always like this : A common mineral price drops, no one wants to mine it, some new thing is introduced, the price raises, it becomes profitables, all miners jump on it, price goes back to normal... Offer, demand, supply, the eve market works perfectly fine because many people like isk and it's good like that. It sounded to me that the ice mining was not the most profitable thing in mining, it's only the most afk! If it doesn't balance by itself, a CPU boost to mackinaw to fit an upgrade will be welcome. -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast ! Say hello to my tiny friends !
Buyerr	Posted - 2007.12.03 13:57:00 - [12] Edited by: Buyerr on 03/12/2007 13:59:57 hmmm the macro miners will clap their hands in joy :S Originally by: Ellaine TashMurkon Macro? You can fit a Mackinaw so it mines for 20 minutes without any attention. You can easily read a book or manage other 5 mackinaws and a hauler. There is no need to use a macro, and if someone is using a macro and risks ban, he's better off mining veldspar. Mining ice a perfectly legal way to be almost afk, I think more people do so then use a macro. I love playing afk and if I had less stuff to move with a freighter, I'd buy a mackinaw :) hehe although i actually think your right here, using a macro for something like this seems wierd ^^ how the hell do they actually see if it is a macro or some guy watching tv only looking at the screen and his watch goes "PIIP PIP PIP" and only for 2 sec to drag out to can?!? O.o
Zwissy Caldari The Crew Incorporated	Posted - 2007.12.03 19:07:00 - [13] The OP says there will be a shortage of ice because as it stands now, ice is not profitable to mine and more ships are coming out that require ice to operate. But this is what will solve the problem, as the demand increases, prices will rise, and more people will mine ice. With more people mining ice prices will fall slightly but remain above current prices. Prices aren't static in game which makes the system work.
Pociomundo Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.12.03 21:31:00 - [14] Macroers mine most of the Empire Ice
Kell Braugh Caldari letter of marque Plunder-Bears	Posted - 2007.12.03 22:42:00 - [15] Originally by: Stormdeath I am really hopping someone in CCP DEV area reads this post. CCP MARK my words if you do not introduce some serious changes to ICE mining the price of ISO will double within 3 months, with OXYGEN reaching 800-900 isk per uint. Please address this problem before it gets out of hand. By 'out of hand', you mean economics at work, and by 'address this problem' you mean "God I could make so much more isk if the developers just lowered my bottom line". If it was up to me: There would be no ice in high sec... evil prevails when good men do nothing.
FawKa Gallente x13	Posted - 2007.12.04 06:07:00 - [16] It is the lack of miners not the lack of belts. Even if there was one belt in empire it is in theory enough to keep up if there is enough miners. Now that the miners get more profit mining it they might outmine the macroes and prices will drop? - - - Signature - - - For Sisi; Running: 8800 GTX 640mb, 4 GB ram, quad core Q6600, creative x-fi, ASUS striker exstreme MB, windows vista, 1680x1050 fullscreen,
Blazde 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.12.04 06:38:00 - [17] Considering isotope prices have risen from 400 in January 2005 to about 400 now despite the introduction of capital ships and probably hundred fold (at least) increase in starbases, I think it's safe to say demand drives supply. _
Rjaiajik Kajvoril	Posted - 2007.12.04 08:26:00 - [18] It's a persistent economy. If ice mining isn't profitable then people won't do it and ice will get into shortage. Now ice is profitable because it's at shortage and everyone wants it. The large 0.0 corps WON'T gank the guy mining the ice because they want it for their POS and if they blow up his Exhumer he can't come back tomorrow to mine the ice for them to buy that no one else will bother doing. It's all about supply and demand. As supply drops demand will rise and profit will increase. I see no problems here, just people wanting the game to go easier for them.

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