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Suze'Rain
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.03 14:53:00 -
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Me, I feel a little sorry for you.
one, for frittering away a trust fund on a game.... two, because you have to boast about it. three, that you have to resort to wasting real life cash to get any adequacy in a game. four, that you seem to think that throwing cash at a problem is an answer. five, that you might have such a sadly pathetic life that you have to troll a forum about it.
six... that it might just be true.
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Hamfast
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.03 14:54:00 -
[92]
One question for the OP...
Are you having fun?
If yes, more power to you, please continue to have it...
If not, keep trying, you will find something...
As for you getting ISK for Cash via CCP's GTC Program, so what... Getting Blown up a lot, so what... if you are having fun, good deal, enjoy it while you can. --------*****-------- It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
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Malarki X
Caldari Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.03 14:58:00 -
[93]
Dont see a problem realy ....
I sell GTCs as well when money gets tight and Im low on ISK and time to play. Its game mechanics.
Dont see why should other players be angry - they are buying it and playing for free  
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7shining7one7
Quafe Paladins
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Posted - 2007.12.03 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: trustfund So basically, I am rich. More specifically, I have a rather... large... trust-fund.
When you kill my ship (so far, 5 Drakes, 5 Ravens, and various small ships) I go to my credit card and I buy more game cards and sell them for ISK.
I have spent a few billion so far.
So how does that make you feel? Does it make you want to kill me more? Does it make you feel sorry for me? Angry?
Honest answers please.
Oh, and for the record, it is *slightly* annoying to have to buy all the fittings again.. :p
egotrip.. ^_^ cc or not your ship blows up just the same, and btw. with a gtc you provide time for others to play, so it's not as solo self jerking as you'd probably fancy.
allthough you can see if u can buy pure isk from an isk farmer that can do some cc fraud on you. that ought to be interesting since your so rich. Oh yeah and did i mention that for added benefit and amusement you will then get banned for doing so. It's simply awesome, then you have an excuse to make another thread like this.
it doesn't matter either way, you just want it to so you can feel better than others.
have a nice day.
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:02:00 -
[95]
I have no idea if this is the desired effect of your post but i'm sure PPL will now be working out ways to kill you more, even pilots that would never have heard of you!
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Freya Runestone
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:04:00 -
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well apart from posting with an alt you're just giving anyone who's ever killed you the ultimate satisfaction in knowing than not only did they remove your virtual assets, they are actually hitting you on your RL money balance.
What you do with your money i don't really care about, i do find it rather sad to spend it on EVE consistently though.
the word 'addiction' comes to mind, maybe a bit strong.
Also i can't see the reason for you posting this. unless you're lying in an attempt to stop GTC sales
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Shar'Tuk TheHated
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:13:00 -
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I find it rather sad and pathetic that you suck so bad at EVE. Better luck next time. BTW nice troll. 
DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale!
THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES! |

Malcanis
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: trustfund So basically, I am rich. More specifically, I have a rather... large... trust-fund.
When you kill my ship (so far, 5 Drakes, 5 Ravens, and various small ships) I go to my credit card and I buy more game cards and sell them for ISK.
I have spent a few billion so far.
So how does that make you feel? Does it make you want to kill me more? Does it make you feel sorry for me? Angry?
Honest answers please.
Oh, and for the record, it is *slightly* annoying to have to buy all the fittings again.. :p
I feel a little sorry for you that your missing out on such a large part of the point of this game. Still, it's your money, and it keeps the GTC prices lower so some of my friends can play.
How long until you're honour-tanking a Pheonix?
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Malcanis
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zenst
Originally by: trustfund So basically, I am rich. More specifically, I have a rather... large... trust-fund.
When you kill my ship (so far, 5 Drakes, 5 Ravens, and various small ships) I go to my credit card and I buy more game cards and sell them for ISK.
I have spent a few billion so far.
So how does that make you feel? Does it make you want to kill me more? Does it make you feel sorry for me? Angry?
Honest answers please.
Oh, and for the record, it is *slightly* annoying to have to buy all the fittings again.. :p
So basicly killing you makes CCP richer leading to better content, less bugs, better servers etc etc.
I personaly not only feel good about that but now that I'm aware of you I'll have an easier time picking targets 
ooh, good perspective!
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Pitt Bull
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:16:00 -
[100]
In reply to the topic: Moron.
Wasn't bothered to read the rest, just thought I'd share that.
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Malcanis
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Apocryphai I call troll post.
In fact, I call troll alt. Is this another Tarminic attempt at being funny/clever?
Of course it's a troll. It's not Tarminic though, unless his standards have really dropped How sad that he's not getting the response he looked for. Maybe he should sell another GTC and get Tar to do it properly.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Apocryphai I call troll post.
In fact, I call troll alt. Is this another Tarminic attempt at being funny/clever?
I would have been a lot more clever, honestly.
Originally by: Danton Marcellus Pity for you that you never get the feel of accomplishment out of the game. Joy that I get to waste someone abusing the mechanics of the game with their wallet and putting a dent in it, however small.
So if you want to make my day tell me before hand that the ship is bought and paid for by GTC trading or whatever.
This. ---------------- Tarminic - 29 Million SP in pink Forum Warfare |

Bentula
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:45:00 -
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Wow i like the op. To think that everytime we kill him the prices of GTCs drop a bit is awesome. Also its kinda cool to imagine we are shooting your RL wallet while you can only hurt our ingame wallet.
Its atleast twice as much fun to grief you than to grief someone who just has alot of isk ingame. I like thinking of it like this:
1. I need gametime. 2. I go shoot me a trustfund. 3. I sell his loot, now i have some more isk. 4. Trustfund needs ISK. He buys a GTC for cash. 5. He sells me the GTC, i pay partly with the money i made killing him. 6. I tell him that he is a great guy and we should meet ingame to run a few missions together .
Ofc there are alts involved on both sides, but im pretty sure this is how its supposed to work .
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David Corbett
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:47:00 -
[104]
It makes me both happy, but more interested in killing you. Why? Because people like you usually fly poorly but still drop great loot. Score. ---
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:53:00 -
[105]
It would make me happy. But not for the reasons you imagine.
Why? Because you (anyone) losing lots of ships and equipment helps keep the market healthy.
As to where you got the ISK...I couldn't care less. Buying ISK via secure GTC sales doesn't bother me if that's what you're asking. Support fixing the EVE UI | Suggest Jita fixes If you'd suicide gank yourself for what you're hauling, don't.
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Lazuran
Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:53:00 -
[106]
I'm well off in RL too, but it still makes me regret spending so many hours ingame to earn ISK because I thought the economic aspect was part of the game.
It used to be less visible, but nowdays the RMT is really bad. I've cancelled my subscriptions and am now buying GTCs from my remaining ISKs and those I get from Datacores to keep training my chars. While the income for CCP is still the same, as a sign of protest, at least they're not getting any money from me.
"...been designed for one purpose and one purpose only. Imagine a handful of repair drones pouring from the carebear's mouth. Now imagine they have um, nothing." -Unknown Hel redesigner (2007) |

Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.03 16:08:00 -
[107]
Originally by: trustfund
So how does that make you feel? Does it make you want to kill me more? Does it make you feel sorry for me? Angry?
I happen to hold the deed to a large bridge in Brooklyn. Contact me in game and we can discuss your upcoming purchase of this fine bridge.
-AS
The Real Space Initiative - V5 (Forum Link) |

Guillame Herschel
Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.12.03 16:27:00 -
[108]
Originally by: trustfund It is logical to believe that out of the many thousands of people who play EVE, at least some of them are multi-millionaires?
For now. -- Guile can always trump hardware -- |

Leroy Payne
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Posted - 2007.12.03 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Bentula Also its kinda cool to imagine we are shooting your RL wallet while you can only hurt our ingame wallet.
Not strictly true. The time you spend earning money in game, is time you coudl spend earning money out of game. If you can earn money faster in-game than out of it, then really you are in the laughable situation not the person buying gtcs.
I could spend an days ratting in the best system in eve, and probably if i was very lucky manage an average hourly rate of 100 million / hour (and thats extremely generous). Or I could go and earn those 3 days worth of isk in two hours in real life, and then just play eve for those 3 days instead of grind.
Every second you spend grinding for money in eve is time which could be spent grinding for money in real life. You'll get paid better in real life in most countries (and you'll have some kind of prospects other than sandbox mmorpg champion), probably better to do your earning there, and leave your playtime for the virtual online world.
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2007.12.03 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Apocryphai I call troll post.
In fact, I call troll alt. Is this another Tarminic attempt at being funny/clever?
I call paranoia post on this one. Get out more.
Originally by: Death Kill Go travel or live in the rainforest if neccesary, just dont turn to religion as its a cul de sac.
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Lazuran
Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.03 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Leroy Payne
Every second you spend grinding for money in eve is time which could be spent grinding for money in real life. You'll get paid better in real life in most countries (and you'll have some kind of prospects other than sandbox mmorpg champion), probably better to do your earning there, and leave your playtime for the virtual online world.
What a fool I was when I started playing in 2003, thinking that the game should be fun *including the ISK-earning aspect*. Apparently everyone here thinks that EVE is some sort of online theme park where you spend money to have a few minutes of fun and skip the boring aspects of the game.
"...been designed for one purpose and one purpose only. Imagine a handful of repair drones pouring from the carebear's mouth. Now imagine they have um, nothing." -Unknown Hel redesigner (2007) |

Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.03 17:12:00 -
[112]
Originally by: goodby4u i find it funny that if i were to shoot you down it hurts your RL wallet
This. Some would want to know your main, just to hunt you. :) 2isk
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.12.03 17:13:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Omega Man on 03/12/2007 17:14:35 happy to kill you -
- Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345 |

Kirmok
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Posted - 2007.12.03 17:16:00 -
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Buy as much as you can. Thats what I say. Don't wanna spend a week mining and trading and risking your ship to buy back what some ganger took from you...then don't just sell your time codes for some isk and get your instant gratification!
I don't wanna spend all my time just earning the isk to buy my ship to play, then just lose it in 5 minutes of pvp...
I would rather play the game and help some poor bastard who can't afford 14.95 a month out! :-D
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Kirmok
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Posted - 2007.12.03 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Leroy Payne
Originally by: Bentula Also its kinda cool to imagine we are shooting your RL wallet while you can only hurt our ingame wallet.
Not strictly true. The time you spend earning money in game, is time you coudl spend earning money out of game. If you can earn money faster in-game than out of it, then really you are in the laughable situation not the person buying gtcs.
I could spend an days ratting in the best system in eve, and probably if i was very lucky manage an average hourly rate of 100 million / hour (and thats extremely generous). Or I could go and earn those 3 days worth of isk in two hours in real life, and then just play eve for those 3 days instead of grind.
Every second you spend grinding for money in eve is time which could be spent grinding for money in real life. You'll get paid better in real life in most countries (and you'll have some kind of prospects other than sandbox mmorpg champion), probably better to do your earning there, and leave your playtime for the virtual online world.
QFT 
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.03 17:19:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 03/12/2007 17:22:26
Originally by: Disco Flint For those who say "I got not that much time to play, I got a job, RL, family, whatever and that's why I buy ISK" let me ask you, do you do sports? Do you use doping of whatever kind to get 'competitive' with those who have more time to train and practice? Or do you play games with others, board games, pen and paper or whatever. Do you flip that dice or shove that pawn when no one is looking? After all, you got less time to play than them, the playing field is certainly uneven.
Buying virtual assets with real life money is cheating, there is no excuse that would warrant it. I myself played several MMOs in the past, often times with not that much actual playing time because of friends & beer or my job or whatnot. Still I can't comprehend why anyone would want to cheat in a game they're playing for fun, for relaxation. Especially those with a job and precious few hours to spend. Earning money ingame no fun? Then you're either doing it wrong or you're playing the wrong game. To that guy who said he earned 10m/h ingame... you're definitively doing it wrong. Unless you're a relatively new player, where you honestly don't need more than that as you can't fly all the shiny stuff yet.
Ah but whatever, yeah, should I ever hear that one of my victims used real money to buy his ship and fittings, I'll have a good laugh and a beer on it.
I don't think it's cheating, it's just lame. My irl wallet is fine, I work just like everyone but I don't do this. When I'm about to lose a ship, I know it's been farmde (-edit- big lol about that. *farmed* with a french accent of course   ), earned with painfull things to do (belting is my only profitable ressource).
I like it that way. And it makes me play the game really better, as I tend to not lose that much my ships recently. 2isk
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Steppa
Gallente Incognito Inc
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Posted - 2007.12.03 17:21:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Val Vympel
Originally by: Steppa Pity, actually, for the void inside you that prompted you to post this in the first place.
Steppa...sadly I concur with you concerning the OP.
Then only to learn that he is also a law student. My sympathy abounds for him.
Sincerly
Actually, I think everyone is missing the real point as far as the OP is concerned. Despite my irksome feelings towards people that lord their genetic lottery over others, he's missing the REAL fun of Eve.
Whether you like pvp or not, there is one inescapable truism about Eve. Eve pvp entails real loss. Loss of time, if nothing else. But, to my point, if you actually expend effort and time building up the resources, isk, modules, etc to outfit that ubership you've been wanting, the first time you find yourself in an actual pvp situation, your heart will race and you will have a gaming experience unlike anything that's ever come down the pike.
If you're milking the tit of your forebears' effort in order to buy ships and modules for pvp, you're actually missing most of the fun.
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Leroy Payne
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Posted - 2007.12.03 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lazuran
Originally by: Leroy Payne
Every second you spend grinding for money in eve is time which could be spent grinding for money in real life. You'll get paid better in real life in most countries (and you'll have some kind of prospects other than sandbox mmorpg champion), probably better to do your earning there, and leave your playtime for the virtual online world.
What a fool I was when I started playing in 2003, thinking that the game should be fun *including the ISK-earning aspect*. Apparently everyone here thinks that EVE is some sort of online theme park where you spend money to have a few minutes of fun and skip the boring aspects of the game.
To take your facecious comment at face-value: No dude you weren't a fool, that's just not how you want to play the game.
I totally respect how you want to play the game, and it is undoubtedly a purer and more complete experience of EVE.
However it's not an experience that is possible or desirable for everyone.
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trustfund
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Posted - 2007.12.03 17:42:00 -
[119]
Originally by: N1fty Can we assume you also bought your character?
In whichcase you haven't done any of the hard work which helps you learn the game. Leading to you losing ships, isk, and real money hand over fist.
Give a newbie everything they need straight away, they don't know the value of what they have, and they arent scared of losing it. So of course, they lose; constantly.
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.12.03 17:56:00 -
[120]
It makes me want to kill you more.
Originally by: GM Tacgnol Oveur descended from the heavens (also known as the second floor) and beat us all with his nerfbat.
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