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MasterTao
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.04 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: MasterTao on 04/12/2007 18:16:56 Division 2: Invention/Production It will focus primarily on growth and expansion in the new t2 market. Having acquired an additional t2 production/research character from a friend for a small part in this operation, I can expand focus to production as well as invention. Exactly what will be produced will depend on market, but mainly I would expect it to be the upcoming ships and any new t2 items in which a bpo doesnÆt exist. All operations are taken place in High Sec.
Profit Assesment - As invention is based purely on chance, it is hard to give out a hard number when it comes to potential profit. But on average the return from my calculation is healthy enough to make this venture worthwhile. I'm aiming at a 10% return after paying off liabilities.
Risk Assesment- 1) My pricing estimates are totally off 2) Fierce market competition 4) Bad luck streak on invention in initial months
The biggest risk come from bad streak streaks from big invention items such as jf and perhaps bs, and for this I shall hedge it somewhat with smaller and easier items/ships.
Loan(Bond) 6b will be raised as loans in form of bonds. 6000 blocks at 1m each will issued. These have a payout of 3.5% twice a month with a maturity of 4 month. A limited buyback of 95% of initial offering will be availble at end of every month. A seprate corporation will be created to distribute the bonds.
Shares- The Corporation will be created with an initial share of 250,000 Valued at 25b in total. 30,000 shares will be available for purchase by public @ 100,000 each, which will raise 3b in isk. I shall a stake by investing 4b isk and locking the production of a Damnation BPO and value it at 18b (real value of around 25b) for a total of 22b in stake.
A progress report will be generated twice a month.
Dividends aren't paid to share holders in the early monthes. it will built into the stock price itself. Profits will be used to generate more income and to pay off liabilities which in turn give more profit to shareholders. Shareholders can use the stock exchanges in eve or I can handle any share transactions without additional cost.
I would also personally buyback some shares every month at 100% of NAV from teh latest report.
Purchasing Information:
Shares- To purchase shares, send increments of 100,000 isk to the character "Synergy Development" along with an eve-mail with the number of shares you are requesting or you can search for corp ticker SYDI and give money that way. Creation for new shares will take 24 hours. So you shall receive your shares as soon as that is done
Bond- To purchase shares, send increments of 1,000,000 isk to the character "Scinn" along with an eve-mail with the amount you are requesting. Creation for new shares will take 24 hours. So you shall receive your shares as soon as that is done
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.12.04 18:23:00 -
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How many ipos/bonds does this make? That you are trying to start up that is? Did the other one from last week, or was it last month, go well? Where does that one stand? Or is this some sort of shotgun effort at getting investors and funds?
Inquiry minds would like to know.
Taikun's Lost Bet |
MasterTao
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.04 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
How many ipos/bonds does this make? That you are trying to start up that is? Did the other one from last week, or was it last month, go well? Where does that one stand? Or is this some sort of shotgun effort at getting investors and funds?
Inquiry minds would like to know.
This will be the 2nd one. Last week's one didn't generate much interest so I returned all the money and redesigned it a bit as you can see it here. The one last month is going as planned, dividend day is coming up in a few days. |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.12.04 18:32:00 -
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It is much to your credit that your closed up your shop and redesigned your offering. However to your credit would be links to the previous efforts and testimonials from credible people that you did in fact return the funds that you previously collected.
Whenever possible always, always, try to do things in as transparent a manner as possible. People understand obscuring tactical and strategic matters but they only trust what they actually can see.
Hope that bit of advice helps.
Taikun's Lost Bet |
MasterTao
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.04 18:54:00 -
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very true, i try to contract some of them to get them to post here.
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Atherin Gaius
Caldari Domini Umbrus VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.04 20:44:00 -
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So i get another chance to invest? cool.
Dependant on the posting of people that the isk was in fact returned I am interested in both the bonds and the stocks.
Do you have an estimate as to the date dividends would be payable on the stocks? as well as an estimated rate?
Also, regarding the bonds, once they reach maturity will you be buying them back? or continueing to pay out?
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.04 21:36:00 -
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Confirming that the isk I sent was returned in full. I'll be reinvesting in some shares, I think. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |
SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.04 23:49:00 -
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the man returns isk and his plan seems sound
his investment is 100% secured with ricdic through freighter bpos and a damnation bpo
what more can an ipo give you? ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |
MasterTao
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.05 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Atherin Gaius
Do you have an estimate as to the date dividends would be payable on the stocks? as well as an estimated rate?
Regarding dividends on stock, I won't count on paying out dividend for the first 6 month, there are lot of rooms to grow. But the general idea is to give out dividend whenever I can't fully utilitize the profits for expansion.
A obvious question at this point would be, But there are always room to expand! does that mean you will never pay out dividends? While it is true one can always grow, a person's time is limited. On monthes where I'm busy, I could give back 100% of profits in dividends. Wether when I have time to analyze and play around with ideas,100% could be reinvested into growth. But either way, there is always the buyback option at end of each month that pay at current value.
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Also, regarding the bonds, once they reach maturity will you be buying them back? or continueing to pay out?
Yes, in theory they will all be bought back at end of 4 month period. But realisticaly a smaller bond would need to be issued before the maturity date to cover the difference between the total value and what the corporation can actually afford buying back without affecting its operations.
The idea is to pay back all the loans at some point in time. The 4 month maturity gives me control to reasses on how much in liability the corporation really need. |
FastLearner
Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.05 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira the man returns isk and his plan seems sound
his investment is 100% secured with ricdic through freighter bpos and a damnation bpo
what more can an ipo give you?
A decent profit?
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.05 01:46:00 -
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Edited by: SiJira on 05/12/2007 01:46:10
Originally by: FastLearner
Originally by: SiJira the man returns isk and his plan seems sound
his investment is 100% secured with ricdic through freighter bpos and a damnation bpo
what more can an ipo give you?
A decent profit?
he returned the money invested as the third post states ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.12.05 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira what more can an ipo give you?
Please don't take my questions as criticism of the ipo. I don't follow everything so I asked a few that came to mind. If anything, as I figure it, the asking and answering of those questions only help to further this ipo's chance at success.
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MasterTao
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.06 05:58:00 -
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still looking for investors, hoping to get it done within a week. |
Kara Rhane
Gallente Rhane's Research and Development Labs.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 07:22:00 -
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If an Ebank member can make a post in this thread saying that the damnation BPO was indeed locked up with Ebank for equity. I'd definitely make a investment in this IPO.
Soon as I get that, I'd put 100 mill your way.
After seeing certain 'scams' I'm happy to see an IPO/Bond that has good security to cover itself and it's investors.
-Kara ***** Rhane's Research and Development LabsÖ
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:54:00 -
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As per this screenshot, we definetly have the blueprint locked down. Whilst we cannot give any guarantee's on the OP's competence as a business manager we can say we have the security in place and locked down for both of his operations (freighter bpo's from phase 1 and damnation bpo from phase 2)
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StarCrash
Minmatar The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.06 12:10:00 -
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I ll be buying so share in this i ll contact you in game tonight once i m on
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.12.06 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: SiJira Edited by: SiJira on 05/12/2007 01:46:10
Originally by: FastLearner
Originally by: SiJira the man returns isk and his plan seems sound
his investment is 100% secured with ricdic through freighter bpos and a damnation bpo
what more can an ipo give you?
A decent profit?
he returned the money invested as the third post states
How exactly is returning money invested the same as returning a decent profit?
FL was answering the question of "what more can an ipo give you?" with "a decent profit". Thus the inference is that he does not believe this will yield a decent profit. Indeed, profit is severely lacking in specificity so far.
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Kara Rhane
Gallente Rhane's Research and Development Labs.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic As per this screenshot, we definetly have the blueprint locked down. Whilst we cannot give any guarantee's on the OP's competence as a business manager we can say we have the security in place and locked down for both of his operations (freighter bpo's from phase 1 and damnation bpo from phase 2)
Thank you!
Will be sending 100 mill worth tonight.
-Kara ***** Rhane's Research and Development LabsÖ
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NeoTrade
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Posted - 2007.12.06 16:59:00 -
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I'll take 200mil worth. Isk transferring shortly.
Also Tao - if its not too late - try to delay buying any invention equipment for about one week.
The exploration sites are dropping invention stuff like crazy. For example, instead of getting a Encryption methods skill book once every 5 sites - they are dropping roughly once every site - so the prices will fall through the floor real soon.
Same goes for interfaces and datacores aswell I think - too early to tell...
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MasterTao
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.06 18:08:00 -
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right, I haven't spent any money yet incase I have to give it all back again if not many are interested.
And also since this is a production business, I don't feel like catching the waves in market instability. Only traders benefit from it, not the producers. |
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Yolos1
Eve University
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Posted - 2007.12.06 19:37:00 -
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purchasing 10 bond shares. email sent in-game. money sent.
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Khanar Liden
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Posted - 2007.12.06 21:37:00 -
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30 mil isk already sent for 300 shares.
MasterTao is it possible for you to post how many shares/bonds are left sometime soon so the rest of us can know how the ipo is going?
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Raskor
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Posted - 2007.12.06 23:55:00 -
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Isk sent:
200m ISK for 200 BONDS @ 1m each 100m ISK for 1000 SHARES @ 100k each
- Raskor
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MasterTao
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.07 00:21:00 -
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So far
610 bond sold - 5390 left 10565 Shares sold - 19435 Shares left
Shares and bonds will be distributed within the next 36 hours. Thanks to all the investors. |
Jukhta Mein
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Posted - 2007.12.07 05:25:00 -
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100m sent to Scinn.
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Rasta Farian
Rasta Tropical Club
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Posted - 2007.12.07 21:40:00 -
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500 million sent to Synergy Development.
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MasterTao
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.08 07:55:00 -
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710 bond sold - 5290 left 21700 shares sold - 8300 left
Operation will commence within 24 hours of the the last shares being sold. Dividend payout clock will start from that day onward for all bond holders up to that point. All further bond purchase afterwards will start counting from the next dividend date. |
Bringing Sexyback
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Posted - 2007.12.08 09:37:00 -
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sending 30 million for 300 shares.
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MasterTao
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.09 02:18:00 -
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5850 shares left
5120 Bonds left
Shares has been distributed already, Bonds will take an additional 6 hours. |
MasterTao
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.09 08:28:00 -
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Bond distributed as well.
Operation and dividend will commence when the last 5000ish shares have been sold. |
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