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Tulsa phi
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:14:00 -
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With the new nerf what is a good PvE raven build. Leave the flaming out please.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:31:00 -
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siege -> cruise painter(s) -> tank/cap lows -> (more) BCUs
and done
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Atsuko Ratu
Caldari Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2007.12.06 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tulsa phi With the new torp change what is a good PvE raven build. Leave the flaming out please.
Fixed.
Post #2 answered your question btw.
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Riho
Northen Breeze
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Posted - 2007.12.06 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tulsa phi With the new nerf what is a good PvE raven build. Leave the flaming out please.
there was no nerf... just buff
use cruise... is it that hard to figure out ?
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Ipos
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:02:00 -
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High: 6xcruise + tractor/cloak med: inject, 2xinvuln, boost amp, EM hard, XL boost low: DC, 4x BCU rigs: op. soldifier + therm rig
- That's what I use, add an EM rig and you don't really need the EM hard which frees up one medslot. For PvP that'd be a web for me. OR ye could add a CCC rig etc...
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Kouki Satori
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:19:00 -
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In the past, Torps+Painters > Cruise DPS. Drones for the rest.
Now Torps+AB's is unusable due to the cpu/grid req's of siege launchers. Now Cruise+anything is still a waste of time unless you're fighting HACs and frigs. Now drones are worthless since the 'new' option can actually hurt frig-size ships.
Anyone using Torps also has enough skills to tank any lvl4, there is zero need for more tank. Also, there is no mid-slot DPS mod for missiles. Raven owners now have a useless midslot.
That said, I really don't know. A CNR with T2 cruise missiles, hardeners, maybe a nerfed sensor mod (esp if you can find an ARM script), and BCU's. Too bad 4 bcu's is basicly the same bonus as 5 due to stacking.
In other words, anyone who trained for torps, painters, and drone skills to use on a Raven/CNR are taking it up the rear.
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JonShannow
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:06:00 -
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Now you can actually pvp in your torp raven or choose to slightly reskil to use cruise and carry on being a carebear
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Dubious Drewski
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:23:00 -
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Kouki, please don't post while angry. You've been filling these boards with very emotional and irrational complaints all night. You obviously really liked the torps the way they were, but the change was a necessary one. Besides, Cruises are not that much slower for missions. Sure, you lose about 20% of your (*theoretical!) dps by using Cruises, but you have to admit, the range was extreme and the weapon was imbalanced.
Now, not only are sieges in line with the other weapons, they are also MUCH better in pvp. You aren't excited by this at all?
*Your actual dps is much lower, because very few rats have a sig radius anywhere near 400 meters.
Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last
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Luna Nilaya
Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kouki Satori
In other words, anyone who trained for torps, painters, and drone skills to use on a Raven/CNR are taking it up the rear.
If you're a carebear. -
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Hephaesteus
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:38:00 -
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Of all the changes made to Eve the torp buff is probably the longest in coming, cruise for long range and torps for short. Makes total sense if you ask me instead of a one range suits all weapon you now have a weapon system that can kick some ass in pvp. Go out join a roaming gang and rejoice in your new found uberness. 
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Kay Rissa
Russian Thunder Squad Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.12.06 10:16:00 -
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I was a great fan of torp raven, I would never use a cruise raven before. But now we have a pvp raven, and for missions we have to adapt.
I would use this setup
6x Cruise Missile Launcher II 2 x 350mm Railgun II - if u prefer fit arties, they use no cap
Shield Boost Amplifier II X-Large Shield Booster II 4 x Dread Guristas hardeners (difficult to fit t2 because of cpu, u can fit t2 hardeners and use then Dread Guristas Co-proc)
Co-Processor II 3 x Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II or damage control
Rigs : cap rigs
Proud member of RTSQ
ps: i dont like to kill innocent ppl, so if i killed u, u rnt innocent
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kay Rissa I was a great fan of torp raven, I would never use a cruise raven before. But now we have a pvp raven, and for missions we have to adapt.
I would use this setup
6x Cruise Missile Launcher II 2 x 350mm Railgun II - if u prefer fit arties, they use no cap
Shield Boost Amplifier II X-Large Shield Booster II 4 x Dread Guristas hardeners (difficult to fit t2 because of cpu, u can fit t2 hardeners and use then Dread Guristas Co-proc)
Co-Processor II 3 x Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II or damage control
Rigs : cap rigs
Usually a large T2 booster with amp is enough for PVE (expecially if you use 4 hardeners) so you can ditch the co-proc and fit another BCU.
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Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Kouki Satori In the past, Torps+Painters > Cruise DPS. Drones for the rest.
Now Torps+AB's is unusable due to the cpu/grid req's of siege launchers. Now Cruise+anything is still a waste of time unless you're fighting HACs and frigs. Now drones are worthless since the 'new' option can actually hurt frig-size ships.
Anyone using Torps also has enough skills to tank any lvl4, there is zero need for more tank. Also, there is no mid-slot DPS mod for missiles. Raven owners now have a useless midslot.
That said, I really don't know. A CNR with T2 cruise missiles, hardeners, maybe a nerfed sensor mod (esp if you can find an ARM script), and BCU's. Too bad 4 bcu's is basicly the same bonus as 5 due to stacking.
In other words, anyone who trained for torps, painters, and drone skills to use on a Raven/CNR are taking it up the rear.
Since you have this "useless mid slot". Fit a cap recharger and drop a couple of BCUs, now fit velocity rigs.
Voila, you have torps that can hit 40-45km, with 70km with javelin, with MUCH more dps.
But know you, you would rather whine instead of using your brain.
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Dubious Drewski
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Posted - 2007.12.06 22:07:00 -
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Our friend Kouki isn't responding. I think he saw my reply and decided that he couldn't counter it. Because you know it's true Kouki!
Long live the pvp Torp Raven!
Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last
And that's why I love that homely boat! |

Ginger Lynn
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Posted - 2007.12.06 22:45:00 -
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I've been thinking about going this way, altough I've not crunched numbers much, do mind I got a dedicated lootslave trailing behind and doing this in drones.
6xT2 Sieges 1xmed dim nos? (If it fits, dont know depends on launcher rigging I belive...) 1xquad lif mwd, 1xC5 Booster, Invul, EM, Therm named hardeners. PWNAGE 3xBCUII 1xCo-ProcII 1xPDUII 2xVelocity Rigs, 1xCCC rig
Improve upon my setup please =)
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