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Sirene Archai	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:29:00 - [1] I guess I'm asking for a response from a Dev or someone like that. So does CCP plan on actually letting us know why the coding for boot.ini AND a command that would delete it be close enough to each other to even happen? I know the issue was found, but I would like to know why my boot.ini has to even be touched. There isn't much information in that file, information that could easily be found elsewhere without having to mess with critical system files. So I'm just curious if there is going to be a planned response that actually lets me know why you guys are messing with my computer in such a way. Is accessing the boot.ini file common practice? It would be one thing if it was within your own program, but this could have potentially affected more than just one program. I just feel CCP has a responsibility (especially toward computer savvy people who fully understand the impact of this) as to why this would happen.

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:34:00 - [2] We are in the midst of resolving the issue and will release a post-mortem after a resolution has been made. Modifying the boot.ini file is not normal practice. kieron Director of Community Relations, EVE Online EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...

Sprobe	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:36:00 - [3] which means that I shouldn't log in to eve if I don't want my boot.ini to be deleted?
Alexiares Caldari Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:36:00 - [4] Originally by: Sprobe which means that I shouldn't log in to eve if I don't want my boot.ini to be deleted? its already been deleted
Riho Northen Breeze	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:37:00 - [5] Originally by: Sprobe which means that I shouldn't log in to eve if I don't want my boot.ini to be deleted? dont download the premium content... and install it whit win xp
Erin Xaelan Elysian of New Eden	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:38:00 - [6] If you have vista, you're fine...or at least I am, on 2 PCs
wolfgarrr Caldari Venom Warriors	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:38:00 - [7] Originally by: Sprobe which means that I shouldn't log in to eve if I don't want my boot.ini to be deleted? Good question .. Is there a official responce to this? I had to replace my boot.ini.. If i log in again will i have to replace it again ?? Originally by: CCP Wrangler Originally by: Thicky McThick Has anyone asked the hamsters yet? Don't be silly, the hamsters are animals, they can't speak.
Eshezo Old Buggers	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:39:00 - [8] The Boot.ini Sticky on the forum isn;t even working !
Kw4h Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:39:00 - [9] Originally by: CCP kieron We are in the midst of resolving the issue and will release a post-mortem after a resolution has been made. Modifying the boot.ini file is not normal practice. The real question I have is why this hasn't been tested. I mean, I installed the premium content on sisi and this went well. Yet, modifications have been made to the tq installer and it didn't go through QA/Test server? I'm glad I don't have it installed yet. Downloading the full client atm. _ Planet Sight Wallpaper - EvE map
Sirene Archai	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:41:00 - [10] okies kewl :) thanks for the info Mr. CCP Dev man.
Taius Pax	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:45:00 - [11] Originally by: Sprobe which means that I shouldn't log in to eve if I don't want my boot.ini to be deleted? You're fine. The problem is with the installer script of the premium upgrade. The EVE directory has a file named "boot.ini" unrelated to the windows "boot.ini" file. It contains some information like the server name to connect to. The installer script changes to your EVE directory to start patching. But instead of deleting "boot.ini" it deletes "\boot.ini". Which if you happen to have EVE installed on your C: drive, erases the windows "boot.ini" file instead of the one in the EVE directory. It's probably the result of a typo, but the result is pretty catastrophic.
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:45:00 - [12] Originally by: CCP kieron We are in the midst of resolving the issue and will release a post-mortem after a resolution has been made. Modifying the boot.ini file is not normal practice. and according to several its not even working.. Words cannot describe how bad this actualy is.. i will referr from further comment as it will not be constructive and probably end up in an ban.. I am very disapointed CCP ->My Vids<-
Neth'Rae Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:49:00 - [13] Luckily I have eve installed on D:\ : Request signatures at EVE-GFX
Erin Xaelan Elysian of New Eden	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:49:00 - [14] C'mon people, YOU try to implement a patch that took thousands of man-hours to create withing a day...flawlessly. It just isn't gunna happen no matter how careful you are.
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:52:00 - [15] Originally by: Erin Xaelan C'mon people, YOU try to implement a patch that took thousands of man-hours to create withing a day...flawlessly. It just isn't gunna happen no matter how careful you are. What has that got to do with your windows system files? they should never ever touch your system files no matter what. This is a big screw up from the highest order. They should make an big public appology and compensate t hose who where affected by it. ->My Vids<-
Erin Xaelan Elysian of New Eden	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:53:00 - [16] Originally by: Taius Pax You're fine. The problem is with the installer script of the premium upgrade. The EVE directory has a file named "boot.ini" unrelated to the windows "boot.ini" file. It contains some information like the server name to connect to. The installer script changes to your EVE directory to start patching. But instead of deleting "boot.ini" it deletes "\boot.ini". Which if you happen to have EVE installed on your C: drive, erases the windows "boot.ini" file instead of the one in the EVE directory. It's probably the result of a typo, but the result is pretty catastrophic. Did you not even read this?
Mianda Atira The Jaapjan Order	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:54:00 - [17] Yeah, compensate! Brand new Boot.ini demanded! --- So common. What do you mean with 'compensated' anyway, hrm? Your free ticket to more ISK or something? Right.
LordHelmchen Born Bravos	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:57:00 - [18] hi i have not much clue about pc what does it means when i dont find the boot.ini in my window folder? do i need to install my windows new or can i recover it somewhere? cheers LH
Mianda Atira The Jaapjan Order	Posted - 2007.12.06 07:58:00 - [19] It isn't and wasn't in your windows folder. It was in your C:\ ... and should still be there -hidden-. If it isn't though and the upgrade accidentally deleted it then you have a problem when you reboot-- it needs that file.
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:00:00 - [20] Originally by: LordHelmchen hi i have not much clue about pc what does it means when i dont find the boot.ini in my window folder? do i need to install my windows new or can i recover it somewhere? cheers LH plz read this boot.ini And the explenation from Taius Pax ( above ) ->My Vids<-
Bacon Flaps	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:03:00 - [21] as a software developer, i feel for ccp because this is simply the worst kind of screw up to make. it's epic. it could not reasonably be any worse. i do know that: - several people at ccp are utterly humiliated right now - management is running around like headless chickens - everyone else is quietly smiling because when sh*t like this goes down, you have to laugh. i was lucky in that my eve folder is in D: and my boot drive is F:, due to a series of upgrades etc. the only disappointing thing I see is that any posts mentioning bugs are getting locked and redirected to the news page, even if the bug being talking about isn't related to this issue. So the forum mods need to calm down.
LordHelmchen Born Bravos	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:03:00 - [22] well i dont find it anymore on my c: :-/ and i have eve installed on my D: i smell a wonderfull day ahead :-/ it was too nice this day to be true ...
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:06:00 - [23] Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 06/12/2007 08:06:34 Originally by: LordHelmchen well i dont find it anymore on my c: :-/ and i have eve installed on my D: i smell a wonderfull day ahead :-/ it was too nice this day to be true ... DO NOT REBOOT! If you are still in Windows running fine then there is a SIMPLE fix. Go to C:\WINDOWS\PSS and copy the boot.ini.backup file to C:\ Rename to boot.ini Simple as that.
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:08:00 - [24] Originally by: LordHelmchen well i dont find it anymore on my c: :-/ and i have eve installed on my D: i smell a wonderfull day ahead :-/ it was too nice this day to be true ... well dont panic.. since your probably have your hidden files of.. if you open explorer -> tools -> folder options -> view -> select show hidden files -> deselect "hide extension for known file types" -> and deselect hide protected operating system files then do a new search ->My Vids<-
VossKarr Caldari The 6th Directorate	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:11:00 - [25] Originally by: Bacon Flaps it could not reasonably be any worse. It could... they could've "accidentally" erased our HD's using Gutmann algorithm. So, yes...
Myz Toyou Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:15:00 - [26] Does it also affect you when you download the full version or only the upgrade ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:17:00 - [27] Edited by: Garia666 on 06/12/2007 08:17:59 Originally by: Myz Toyou Does it also affect you when you download the full version or only the upgrade ? Quote: Please note: This issue affects Windows XP and older users who have upgraded their EVE clients with the Classic to Premium version. It does not affect Vista, Mac or Linux users. so my best guess is only the upgrade ->My Vids<-
Gane Green Gallente Dominus Imperium	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:19:00 - [28] The bright side is that it wasnt a typo format C:. y So all you have to do is run recovery and not start from scratch \o/ If God was a number he would be over 9,000!!!!!!!!!
Fracking Beach	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:22:00 - [29] Originally by: Bacon Flaps as a software developer, i feel for ccp because this is simply the worst kind of screw up to make. it's epic. it could not reasonably be any worse. i do know that: - several people at ccp are utterly humiliated right now - management is running around like headless chickens - everyone else is quietly smiling because when sh*t like this goes down, you have to laugh. i was lucky in that my eve folder is in D: and my boot drive is F:, due to a series of upgrades etc. the only disappointing thing I see is that any posts mentioning bugs are getting locked and redirected to the news page, even if the bug being talking about isn't related to this issue. So the forum mods need to calm down. Sadly, I have to agree.. And what makes this epic wtf worse, is that a number of users who (most likely) shutdown their machines after trying the new content, probably have not yet turned their machines on to discover the horror. They will be at home screaming at their box and a number of them probably don't even read these forums (well - a lot of them probably wont have second computer to that from). And how many of those people could even imagine what has caused the boot.ini to dissappear. I was about to install it myself this morning, when I noticed the download link wasn't working. Glad I didn't.
Myz Toyou Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.12.06 08:24:00 - [30] Originally by: Garia666 Edited by: Garia666 on 06/12/2007 08:17:59 Originally by: Myz Toyou Does it also affect you when you download the full version or only the upgrade ? Quote: Please note: This issue affects Windows XP and older users who have upgraded their EVE clients with the Classic to Premium version. It does not affect Vista, Mac or Linux users. so my best guess is only the upgrade Thanks m8, my reading skills are not at lvl5 at this time of the day -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])

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