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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:39:00 -
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Well according to Merc Frigs they only fight in frigs and will not fight battleships. So my Corp mates and I all go out and get us frigs and start to hunt them.
All is going well untill we start to pwn them, then they start to turn up in battleships themselves and start to attack our frigs. Whilst doing this they start to post in local that we [RKK] are using battleships to attack their frigs.
Looks like FE has a potential merger here.
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/ http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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Naqq
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:41:00 -
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No we never claimed only to use frigates..
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:44:00 -
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Guess you need to check what your members have been posting, and the main issue here is;
You guys telling others in local that [RKK] is using battleships to hunt your frigs when it is your battleships hunting [RKK]frigs.
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/ http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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slothe
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:49:00 -
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Quote: No we never claimed only to use frigates..
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not true- you do hence the name "mercenary frigates" if you used other ships youd be- "mercenaries" or " mercenary ships"
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Bosie
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Posted - 2004.03.10 16:59:00 -
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In the words of Omri your founding member and CEO;
"any FE memmbers or aliiies that wish to see constant fighting should join MF or have thier alt join, its gettin sticky from nonni to yulai. i am not exagerating when i say up 40 people hunted us for hours on tuesday. and they will be back . about 30% bs 40%cc and 30% frigs.
no way can the 5 to 10 regualrs that we have can fight that many but we try anyway. total losses for us tuesday 7 frigs, enemy losses 8 frigs.
we have to try and peel the frigs away from the bb/cc in order to get a fight.
also you dont havta just fly frigs with us, we have to adapt to the ever camping bs/cc situation we we do fly cruisers when we have them, and 3 of us have BS. so bring what ya want. i can gaurnatee a fight eveeeryday for the next week or 2. constant action,
i cant remember all the wars here are a few. millimum jerhico fraction tyrell corp serephin tech united eve legion rikiku or rikoku or something like that ticker [rkk or rgg]"
Is that a desperate cry for help as Merc Frigs are getting their collective arses handed to them every day?
Bosie.
http://bosie.proboards40.com/ http://zeroimpact.co.uk/evemap
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:04:00 -
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I have to say I am very disappointed to see Mercenary Frigates being "outed" as nothing much more than a Foresaken Empire alt war corp. I always kind liked the Merc Frigate approach and found them pretty amusing. But it is a sad spectacle to see them running back to the Foresaken Empire with their cap in hand and begging for some more alts and cruiser and battleships to help them fight.
Remember guys ... Jericho came out and hit you hard with nothing but frigates until you started using Blackbirds in ever increasing numbers.
Its all very well for you to whinge about having to up the ship class category because of enemies in theatre, but you guys kinda started it.
But sadly,
I am having to reassess Merc Frigates in the light of this post as ...
"just another crappy alt war corp"
Sad. Get a life Foresaken Empire!
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Antinea
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:11:00 -
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This is just hilarious 
MF crying for help on mommy FE's shoulders 
A sad day for Mercenary "Frigates" it is indeed...
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Anede
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:21:00 -
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Tbh, I don't care much what ships they feel like using. Its the holier than thou crap thats annoying. The 'we only use frigates because they are fun' and 'we have to peel the frigates off cruisers and battleships' speeches, only to jump in a battleship to take out a rifter. We've had some really good fights with them recently, in frigates no less. Shame to spoil it.
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:22:00 -
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My reading of that is that they're asking for FE alts to join them rather than they are alts already (in fact quite the opposite) - in any case it doesn't look like things are going too well for them at all.
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Xamand
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:22:00 -
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I think it was a good idea originally to be a frigate only pvp corp, unfortunately that seems to have gone by the wayside. Day 1 of their war against Tyrell I had a merc frigate BS camping the station I was in until they got bored of waiting for my bestower to undock. Admittedly, I mostly see them in frigates, but I would never count on them turning up in something else.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:26:00 -
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Gotta back up what my compatriots say here...
We came to have fun and along with millenium and jericho.
We moved purely into frigs to give the MF guys a chance (previously we were using fleet tactics and winning every engagement).
We'll move back to fleet tactics now and forever until this war is completed.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:29:00 -
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Edited by: Mongo Peck on 10/03/2004 17:30:54
I think its mainly due to the large quantity of battleships in Eve ...... as the numbers increased then the ability to have a "viable" frigate only corp became almost impossible ....
You still manage to find the odd one (hence MF videos)
Mongo speaks !!
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Anede
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:34:00 -
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Indeed, it is inevitable that, as corp numbers/wars increase, they wouldn't be able to keep fighting in frigates, but taking out a rifter in a scorpion is just going against everything they stand for. Especially since most of our corp members went to the effort to equip frigates just for the fight.
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Gozer
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:34:00 -
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i got out of my raven especially for this war and so far i've had nada! zip! nowt! in the way of a decent dog fight! fair enough, i'd hide if i was outnumbered but i suggest we have a stand off. all in one system and at a planet.
1 line of merc frigs and another line of MLM/RKK/JERC - 100k apart.
a countdown...
and then...
say when .... 
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:36:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Mongo Peck on 10/03/2004 17:30:54 I think its mainly due to the large quantity of battleships in Eve ...... as the numbers increased then the ability to have a "viable" frigate only corp became almost impossible .... You still manage to find the odd one (hence MF videos)
Catch a clue Mongo ... MF brought war, we matched them with Frigates, they upped the ante to cruisers and began the arms race. Now they are running to the Foresaken Empire for "alts" and "battleships".
It doesn't look good whichever way you spin it.
I am sad that the MF are associated with FE though. They did appear to have a sense of humour once.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.10 17:40:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Mongo Peck on 10/03/2004 17:30:54
I think its mainly due to the large quantity of battleships in Eve ...... as the numbers increased then the ability to have a "viable" frigate only corp became almost impossible ....
You still manage to find the odd one (hence MF videos)
I couldn't agree more mongo, fleet battles comprising frigs, cruisers and BS are the ONLY way to go.
However, we got berated in local from the MF frigs for not purely using frigates at the start.
I think that is what annoyed rkk pilots more than anything.
Rkk is an honourable corp, it seems we are one of few around.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:00:00 -
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Quote: Well according to Merc Frigs they only fight in frigs and will not fight battleships. So my Corp mates and I all go out and get us frigs and start to hunt them.
All is going well untill we start to pwn them, then they start to turn up in battleships themselves and start to attack our frigs. Whilst doing this they start to post in local that we [RKK] are using battleships to attack their frigs.
Looks like FE has a potential merger here.
Bosie.
Hmmm excuse me????
Pwn them???
You and I were both at the new cal gate, when I took Lion's Rifter, locked you up, but then the BS/Cruiser cavalry arrived.... excuse me for ducking out at that point. 
Hate to tell you but I was in a breacher. 
Admittedly I personally don't fly a BS/Cruiser, but when faced with Eve Legion (or whatever they're called) with nothing but battleships, in Yulai I guess one of our number can be excused polishing his scorp off and taking it for a spin.
Won't comment on the fact people were posting in local that RKK were fighting in BS's, personally I've only seen you in frigs in Yulai.
Let's try to keep things civil huh?
Lots of luv & hugs.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:00:00 -
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"If someone claimed anywhere that MF only fly in frigs, well he was just toyin with you then and I can only hope u nearly had a heartattack when we showed up in battleships."
... Then what's the point of complaining in local about being subjected to the same tactics..? o.o
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:03:00 -
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To quote s0cks
Quote: Anyone who wants to, or is fighting us i'd just like to say that we and deffiently you will have so much more fun fighting frigate on frigate that you should leave your battleships at home. No joke, you will learn so much more about fast tactical fighting and have 10x more fun. Don't believe me? Ask Miso or Jade Constantine.
I did take my BS down there on the first day of the war, but lastnight i spent an hour or so testing frig setups, sad to hear they are using BS's
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:05:00 -
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Grimster,
Problem is you are in permanent NAP and murky arrangements with FE, Eve's worse smack-talking, and laughably incompetant corp. I didn't say you brought Battleships against us, I said you upped the ante to blackbirds and then went running to FE for more alts and Battleships (as appears to be the case in Omni's post.)
Let me clue you in. Last night FE showed themselves to be the lowest of the low by their tactics and play style. For you to be associated with that stink makes you stink.
Its as simple as that.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:28:00 -
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Quote: Grimster,
Problem is you are in permanent NAP and murky arrangements with FE, Eve's worse smack-talking, and laughably incompetant corp. I didn't say you brought Battleships against us, I said you upped the ante to blackbirds and then went running to FE for more alts and Battleships (as appears to be the case in Omni's post.)
Let me clue you in. Last night FE showed themselves to be the lowest of the low by their tactics and play style. For you to be associated with that stink makes you stink.
Its as simple as that.
Ultimately I have no time for the politicking of who's in bed with who. I can tell you though that I've never fought with FE, all I know about them is they have good standing with MF (Blue Brackets).
It wouldn't matter to me one iota which corp I fly with really, JF, RKK, MF whatever, just MF seems to have a lot of fun, and the people ain't a bad bunch. They've taught me a lot about PvP and as a bonus I like the name 
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Azziza Meekstone
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Posted - 2004.03.10 18:34:00 -
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That battleship was me, a scorpion, as an answer to mostly the United Eve Legion guys, that had camped us with battleships only.
I did target some frigs when I was scouting for them.
I also would like to say here that after I engaged, a megathron, a scorpion, and an apocalypse of foresaid corp, they ran.
Those that think they can camp us with battleships without getting something back is sadly mistaken.
I hail Jericho and Reikoku, they did just fly frigs and the occasional cruiser to fight us.
It was 1 Battleship, me, in a scorp, with the sole intention to make UEVEL cowar back, which they did.
Azz out.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.03.10 19:18:00 -
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Well here is the thing, while I type this I am being hunted in Nonni Starsystem by a mixed fleet of Mercenary Frigates and Foresaken Empire Ships.
I engaged a lone MF frigate (vigil) at the Nonni/New Caldari stargate, webbed my prey and just failed to cruise missile his ass, then, to my absolute (lack) of surprise. In game a mixed group of additional MF's and heavier FE ships. I ran! (and am still running).
It appears that Mercenary Frigate have come out of the closet as an Foresaken Empire war ally and have joined the fighting in the role of an alt-war-corp.
As I said before this is all very sad, but the facts of the matter are now beyond reasonable doubt.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.03.10 19:25:00 -
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Quote:
Well here is the thing, while I type this I am being hunted in Nonni Starsystem by a mixed fleet of Mercenary Frigates and Foresaken Empire Ships.
I engaged a lone MF frigate (vigil) at the Nonni/New Caldari stargate, webbed my prey and just failed to cruise missile his ass, then, to my absolute (lack) of surprise. In game a mixed group of additional MF's and heavier FE ships. I ran! (and am still running).
It appears that Mercenary Frigate have come out of the closet as an Foresaken Empire war ally and have joined the fighting in the role of an alt-war-corp.
As I said before this is all very sad, but the facts of the matter are now beyond reasonable doubt.
Note: Grimster's lone fighting..
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2004.03.10 19:32:00 -
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I've deleted both my posts because, tbh, I just don't care enough about peoples opinions in this game anymore and have thought the better of ranting on this board. I will say this only once so we're all a bit clearer 
People say things, people take differant meanings from what gets said.
90% of us choose frigates over other ships, some of us use cruisers, occasionally the need arises to use our battleships. That is how it has to be.
Azziza has given the reason for the use of his Scorpion, take it or leave it.
Ironic that we get slated for being an alt corp then get slated over our use of Battleships. Battleship piloting isn't high on the alt skill list.
We will do anything in our wars to have as much fun as possible. A lot of peoples crazy idea of fun in this game is to camp stargates with X amount of Battleships w. drones deployed. We need to compete and we do.
Please, this is to everyone who has war with us, don't come here shouting "WE PNWED MERCENARY FRIGATES" It's not an achievement. Our goal is fun, we attempt to fulfil that goal every night. Sometimes we lose sometimes we win, a big part of us winning is the amount of fun we have in a night, it's that simple. If you percieve us to be using bigger ships because you think we feel threatened, you are wrong. End of arguement.
Our name is 6 months old as is our philosophy. Times have changed, our philosophy has changed but we like the name and have kept it. Accept this or don't, it's your choice.
See you on the battlefield (in frigates or otherwise)
Respectfully (and more level headedly),
Bexx
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Bexxly
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Posted - 2004.03.10 19:43:00 -
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Quote:
Well here is the thing, while I type this I am being hunted in Nonni Starsystem by a mixed fleet of Mercenary Frigates and Foresaken Empire Ships.
You are at war with both our corps, engagements such as this are going to happen I'm afraid.
Quote: I engaged a lone MF frigate (vigil) at the Nonni/New Caldari stargate, webbed my prey and just failed to cruise missile his ass, then, to my absolute (lack) of surprise. In game a mixed group of additional MF's and heavier FE ships. I ran! (and am still running).
It is no secret that we are long time friends of some of the Biomass pilots (now members of F-E)
Quote: It appears that Mercenary Frigate have come out of the closet as an Foresaken Empire war ally and have joined the fighting in the role of an alt-war-corp.
We cannot come out of the closet, so to speak, because we have never denied our ties with the F-E. I can appreciate you feel that our dealings with them run far deeper than just a NAP but I'm afarid that is an issue for you to deal with.
Quote: As I said before this is all very sad, but the facts of the matter are now beyond reasonable doubt.
Sad? In what way? we cannot stop the F-E from declaring war on any one corp, we have no power of control over them they do what they please.
You can spin a conspiracy theory for the forum if you wish, I can't stop you, but our war with you has nothing to do with the F-E's war with you. However, as allies I don't see anything wrong with combining forces when the opportunity arises.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.10 19:59:00 -
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Quote: I've deleted both my posts
I have done likewise.
Rkk mirror your goal of having fun, that's all we ever want. See you on the battlefield.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Grimster
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Posted - 2004.03.10 20:07:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: I've deleted both my posts
I have done likewise.
Rkk mirror your goal of having fun, that's all we ever want. See you on the battlefield.
dbp
Hear hear! 
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Marcus Grisbius
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Posted - 2004.03.10 20:43:00 -
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Well, as I remember it, when Merc Frigs reformed after an attempt at Merc Cruisers, they said that they were planning to fight primarily as frigs but would don the occasional cruiser or bship. Just because their name is Mercenary Frigates, doesnt mean they are mercenaries or fly only frigates.
Do they use bships? Yes, we've had fights with them fielding 3 bships and a couple cruisers along with many frigs. We fought them flying 3 bs, a couple cruisers and 5-6 frigs against our 3 bships, 2-3 cruisers and a handful of frigs. Did it make it less fun to fight them in a fairly even fleet battle? No, it was probably one of the most fun fights I've had.
From a personal combat standpoint, they have been a lot of fun to fight and have fought well and with a certain degree of honor. MUC has been at war with the several incarnations of MF for about 6 months. We've had plenty of fights with them and were greatly annoyed at times by them attacking us. They tried ganking our indies, picking off our miners and knocking out our lone cruisers from time to time. Then we took the fight to them and found that they weren't merely gankers or pirates but also players. They don't run, hide in stations or log off to avoid poddings (at least they didn't with us). For the most part they will bring what they need to a fight to have a good chance of winning.
Don't expect them to be lambs for the slaughter, they want a challenge not a hopeless fight. They'll find a way make it a fair fight and sometimes they'll call in help from different places, such as FE or Space Invaders or some others. Don't think that you'll come in and just gank them because you think "they're all in frigs."
Be careful and don't be overconfident against them.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.03.10 20:47:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/03/2004 20:49:14 To everyone else who wants to come in and knock either ourselves or the MF:
Read the topic before posting.
This thread is simply about the duality of comments made by MF pilots in local that left a bad taste in our collective mouths.
Nothing to do with who is winning the war or what tactics are being used.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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