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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.12.09 04:39:00 -
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Right so I been wanting to fly a amarr faction bs for a while, none of which have appealed to me through purpose.
I believe the Navy Apoc should be swapped for a Navy Geddon. And swap the Bhaalgorn into the apoc.
To elaborate:
Navy Apoc becomes the Navy Geddon
Geddon (bhaalgorn) becomes Apoc (bhaalgorn)
This quoted from another on me raising this topic
 Originally by: Horza Otho
If ccp swapped Apoc Navy Issue for a Geddon Navy Issue, then made the Bhaalgorn based off the Apoc, it'd make way more sense.
I think it is logical, and if this happened, I would finally be able to fly an amarr faction battleship worth more than just the 'i'm in a faction ship' statement. Because frankly. Thats all you get with the navy apoc.
Who's with me!?
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Flak Freefall
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Posted - 2007.12.09 04:45:00 -
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/signed
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
STK Scientific
Black-Out
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Posted - 2007.12.09 05:50:00 -
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the bhaalgorn is actually based on the apoc hull I believe, it just uses a reskinned Geddon model for some reason.
just a thought
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Niffetin
Gallente
CONsordium Infinate
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Posted - 2007.12.09 05:59:00 -
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This would make the Apoc almost useful 
Well atleast the new faction variant of it.
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.12.09 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
the bhaalgorn is actually based on the apoc hull I believe, it just uses a reskinned Geddon model for some reason.
just a thought
It may be based on the apoc hull, but it is the ship + ship bonus that is of interest. The Geddon is a gun ship, just like the mega. The apoc is more of a logistically suited ship for the bhaal bonus, thus the geddon makes for the better navy varient. The bhaalgorn is better suited to the apoc.
If you now catch my drift 
To clarify
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Lazarann
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.09 06:53:00 -
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Hell, I don't even fly them and I agree.
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BoB sucks
Burning Bush Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.12.09 07:14:00 -
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very nice
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NoNah
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Posted - 2007.12.09 08:31:00 -
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This would however imply that the navy mega is turned into a navy domi, navy raven -> Navy scorp, navy tempest -> Navy phoon.
While I love the idea of .. all these ships, seems I prefer the tier 1 version in every single case, I'm afraid most of the cookie cutters won't. Not even with the Marauders covering similiar roles as the navy ships.
As for the bhaalgorn itself however, without flying it myself I suspect it does need a change, and I can see sense in changing it's hull as one of these changes.
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Exiled One
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.12.09 08:41:00 -
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I, too, agree with butt horza.
/singature.
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Audemed
Innocence Proves Nothing
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Posted - 2007.12.09 12:14:00 -
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I wholeheartedly aggree.
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Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.09 13:26:00 -
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Apoc is already useful, i need it to build paladins :)
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Jill Antaris
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:14:00 -
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/signed, Navy Gedon would be mutch nicer than the Navy Apoc is atm.
Nerf Lasers!
Thay need far to less CPU and Grid to Fit.
Still using not enught Cap and do far to mutch Damage.
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah
This would however imply that the navy mega is turned into a navy domi, navy raven -> Navy scorp, navy tempest -> Navy phoon.
Why? All the other tier 2 navy bs do the job just fine. For amarr the change is to be competitive with the navy mega, navy raven etc...
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XrayZ
Euphoria Foundation
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:34:00 -
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/signed.
sounds good to me :)
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AdmiralFreeman
Euphoria Foundation
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Posted - 2007.12.09 15:34:00 -
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/signed
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Quli
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Posted - 2007.12.09 21:49:00 -
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/Signed
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Requiescat
Caldari
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.12.09 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Originally by: Terianna Eri
the bhaalgorn is actually based on the apoc hull I believe, it just uses a reskinned Geddon model for some reason.
just a thought
It may be based on the apoc hull, but it is the ship + ship bonus that is of interest. The Geddon is a gun ship, just like the mega. The apoc is more of a logistically suited ship for the bhaal bonus, thus the geddon makes for the better navy varient. The bhaalgorn is better suited to the apoc.
If you now catch my drift
To clarify
No... Look at the stats on the Bhaalgorn. It's an Apoc, with the model of a Geddon. It's not a Geddon at all. It's an Apoc.
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Admiral Pelleon
Caldari
White Shadow Imperium
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2007.12.09 21:55:00 -
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/signed
Almost bought a navy apoc, but realized the ship really doesn't have much to offer.
I don't know if it's the fact that the Apoc is a POS in a strait damage dealing way, but trying to give it a role it already fails at isnt the answer. Signed.
At least the NOS/Neuts can be useful.
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Monk Fish
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Posted - 2007.12.09 21:57:00 -
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I just want to see the bhaalgorn & rattle snake get a new ship body. If your gona have an illegal faction, it should at least look different, themed but different.
-MF
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.12.09 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Requiescat
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Originally by: Terianna Eri
the bhaalgorn is actually based on the apoc hull I believe, it just uses a reskinned Geddon model for some reason.
just a thought
It may be based on the apoc hull, but it is the ship + ship bonus that is of interest. The Geddon is a gun ship, just like the mega. The apoc is more of a logistically suited ship for the bhaal bonus, thus the geddon makes for the better navy varient. The bhaalgorn is better suited to the apoc.
If you now catch my drift
To clarify
No... Look at the stats on the Bhaalgorn. It's an Apoc, with the model of a Geddon. It's not a Geddon at all. It's an Apoc.
You strengthen my point entirely.
So lets put the Bhaalgorn onto the correct ship model, and give in return amarr a useful navy BS... the Navy Armageddon.
Thank you
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NoNah
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Posted - 2007.12.09 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: ReePeR McAllem
Originally by: NoNah
This would however imply that the navy mega is turned into a navy domi, navy raven -> Navy scorp, navy tempest -> Navy phoon.
Why? All the other tier 2 navy bs do the job just fine. For amarr the change is to be competitive with the navy mega, navy raven etc...
All for the sake of linearity. If this change was done, it wouldnt be hours before someone requested the CNR to be made into a navy scorp, the amarr gets it, why can't the caldari, CCP HATES CALDARI!! (Please god, let that be the first and last time I ever used those words in the same sentence, or let it be true the next time.)
To me, a navy mega is pointless. I'd love a navy domi. And if I wanted a hybrid Battleship gunboat, I'd get the Vindicator. Wouldnt it make sense to have a faction droneship instead?
To someone else, a navy Raven is pointless. If they wanted a missileship they'd go with the Rattlesnake(which should be based of the Raven!), wouldn't it make sense for the navy to have a faction ew ship instead?
(And this entire post was just to prove a point, other than that, I still agree)
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FraXy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.12.09 22:16:00 -
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Navy Geddon with 8 turrets, 3 mids and 9 lows.
Win?
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adriaans
Amarr
Advanced Capital Ship Designs
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:08:00 -
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/signed
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Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr! (Or make Amarr the only race able to deal EM damage from turrets).
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Durpa Tee
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Posted - 2007.12.10 04:48:00 -
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Quote:
All for the sake of linearity. If this change was done, it wouldnt be hours before someone requested the CNR to be made into a navy scorp, the amarr gets it, why can't the caldari, CCP HATES CALDARI!! (Please god, let that be the first and last time I ever used those words in the same sentence, or let it be true the next time.)
To me, a navy mega is pointless. I'd love a navy domi. And if I wanted a hybrid Battleship gunboat, I'd get the Vindicator. Wouldnt it make sense to have a faction droneship instead?
To someone else, a navy Raven is pointless. If they wanted a missileship they'd go with the Rattlesnake(which should be based of the Raven!), wouldn't it make sense for the navy to have a faction ew ship instead?
The mega and raven are the best battheship for pvp for the races. They both do the higher damage.Can tank better and well nothing wrong with them. If people will cry they want domi faction, well. Is the regular domi broken? no.. is the apoc broken? yes.
Give Navy Armgeddon
Well when i go jita I can see far more mega and raven then apocalyp.
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Karma
Gallente
Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:37:00 -
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/signed
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Biced
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:04:00 -
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/signed
Now what about the navy Augoro? It gets the old t1 augoror bonus now 
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Lokr
Personal Vendetta
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:06:00 -
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/signed
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