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Scholic Hockenbearee
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Posted - 2007.12.09 23:25:00 -
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First of all, please note I said "changes" and not "nerf." I'm personally quite pleased with the torp changes, but for ratting/mission purposes, new options are needed.
So, is there anything out there that rats as fast or faster than a Raven? I'm not averse to training for any races or ship class. Just wondering what you guys think.
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Requiescat
Caldari
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.12.09 23:32:00 -
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How about, get in range and keep using torps, or stay where you are and use cruises
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Scholic Hockenbearee
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Posted - 2007.12.09 23:44:00 -
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Getting in range requires a) cap and b) time.
I'm looking for ship ideas where I save both. 
I've tried both. Cruises just feel too slow compared to torps (and I have cruise spec IV trained).
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Gawain Hill
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Posted - 2007.12.09 23:54:00 -
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don't javlin torps still have a huge range?
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Gabriel Magnar
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Scholic Hockenbearee
First of all, please note I said "changes" and not "nerf." I'm personally quite pleased with the torp changes, but for ratting/mission purposes, new options are needed.
So, is there anything out there that rats as fast or faster than a Raven? I'm not averse to training for any races or ship class. Just wondering what you guys think.
Try using blasters.
Oh, wait...
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Scholic Hockenbearee
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:04:00 -
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I considered using Javs. Anyone know their range w/ lvl 4ish support skills?
And why not blasters? I kinda was curious to know how the Astarte fared as a ratter, compared to the Raven.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:08:00 -
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What rats do you want to shoot?
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Stefan F
Enrave
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:13:00 -
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Train up your skills.
My torps can still do close to 40k. Think i can get past that with implants.
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Scholic Hockenbearee
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:23:00 -
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Guristas mainly...If they were Serpentis I guess it'd be less of a problem
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Scholic Hockenbearee
Guristas mainly...If they were Serpentis I guess it'd be less of a problem
Hmm... tough... Sadly, seems like Cruise raven would still be your best bet :-/
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Bronson Hughes
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.10 00:38:00 -
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If you're looking for Torp options, I'd go with an AC/Torp/MWD fitted Typhoon. I have no idea what kind of tank you'd be able to mount on it and you'd have to train up Projectiles and Minmatar ships, but you could get into range pretty well and still use your torps.
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Graalum
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:13:00 -
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torp is an excellent ship for ratting. Alternatively cruise ravens can be decent, just remember to bring 3 bcuII's
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation
Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Bronson Hughes
If you're looking for Torp options, I'd go with an AC/Torp/MWD fitted Typhoon. I have no idea what kind of tank you'd be able to mount on it and you'd have to train up Projectiles and Minmatar ships, but you could get into range pretty well and still use your torps.
Yeah, the phoon would prolly be the best torp ratter for this job.
TBH, for the Raven, I'd try this (If I had the skills for T2 torps):
Raven
6x Siege II
100mn MWD II, LSB II, Kin, Thm Hardener, X5 Web, PWNAGE
3x BCU, 2x PDU
3x Polycarbs...
5x Vespa II, 5x Hornet II
Realistically (with my skills):
6x Arby Siege, 2x Med Nos
100mn MWD II, XL SB II, 2x Kin II, 1x Thm II, Fleeting Web
3x BCU II, Co-Proc II, OD II
3x Polycarb
5x Vespa II, 5x Hornet II
At least, I'd give it a shot... ;-)
Liang
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude
oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:07:00 -
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Edited by: Shaemell Buttleson on 10/12/2007 03:09:09
Originally by: Scholic Hockenbearee
I considered using Javs. Anyone know their range w/ lvl 4ish support skills?
And why not blasters? I kinda was curious to know how the Astarte fared as a ratter, compared to the Raven.
Think it's 45 km if memory serves me correctly on maxed skills.
If you are concerned about the ravens torp range why are you even considering a blaster based ship?
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xXHeRoInERaBBiTXx
Minmatar
Veni Vidi Vici.
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:16:00 -
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if you wanna do instant damage at a longer range try tempest(if you feel upto training it) otherwise just fit cruise, looting/salvaging gurista rats is useless as you probably already know...and gurista rats make you the worst isk of all ships..rails/artys/cruise are your best bets for ratting like your used to...train accordingly on of those
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente
Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:27:00 -
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Yah, quite possibly the Typhoon now for missile-specced characters.
Oh, and Shaemell, your sig's gonna be removed, Sokratez had something of that nature and it got removed.
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Incantare
Caldari
Kernel of War
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.10 04:00:00 -
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I use:
6 siege
3 hardeners, boost amp, X-l booster, painter
3 bcus, co-proc, DCU
2 velocity and 1 flight time rig
But then I rat angels and I've yet to see one orbit at over 40k. Specifically for guristas although you can use jav I wouldn't bother but on the golem they're very likely to be an attractive option.
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Be'rar
White Shadow Imperium
Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2007.12.10 04:40:00 -
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My current Angels ratting setup:
Typhoon
4x Seige Launchers
2x Nos (Not much use, but looks pertty ;) )
1x Tracor Beam
1x Salvager
1x 100mn AB II
3x Cap Rechargers II
1x LAR II
1x MAR II
4x Rat Specific Hardeners (2x Kenetic 2x Explosive)
1x BCU II
1x Trimark
1x Aux. Nanobot Pump
6x Berserkers
5x Warrior
Even after the torp changes, I can still easily get into range. Its not the fastest ratting setup out there, but it is entirely self sustaining.
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Anon Forumalt
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Posted - 2007.12.10 05:16:00 -
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Guristas is absolutely perfect for the Raven, as you can get away with only 2 hardeners. Which leaves you room to fit a MWD/AB and maybe even a cap recharger or two. The fitting is skill intensive (AWU IV, I believe), but it works. |
Dreadmuppet Four
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Posted - 2007.12.10 11:11:00 -
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phoon
4 seigeII
2 tractors
2 salvagers
2 cap reII
1 heavy electrochem
1 100MN MWDII
3/4 active TII hardeners
0/1 adaptive nano II
DCU II
LAR II
BCU II
5 TII heavy drones
cheap, no rigs required, fast and torp bonus, BS go down in no time
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