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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.10 20:50:00 -
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Now that the Drone Regions have some Exploration content that might possibly have value (A big stretch, I know, but I have to try to be optimistic), I've been running around looking for Radar sites. In 3 days of looking I've found 4 Radar sites.
I'm still pinning down the 4th, but the other 3 were all the same (Abandoned Drone Research site.) These sites were very easy, with 2 High Security cans and 1 Reasearch Center can per site. All the Research Center cans have been empty, and each time 1 of the 2 High Security cans had some minor drone droppings in them. Total drops: 2 Cerebral, 2 Drone Capillary fluid, and 5 ...errr .... Drone Legs? Something like that. No BPC's or anything.
At this rate, I'll have to look non-stop for a week to get enough goodies to build a single Faction Drone.
What I am asking is: Do these drops sound normal? Did I just get unlucky and hit the smallest of the sites? Will the BPC's eventually drop from the Research site cans? Does there exist another Radar Site type that actually drops something good?
Or is this just another example of CCP giving us something that they think is good, only to have the Drone Regions be left out once again?
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SumDum
AirHawk Alliance
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.10 21:38:00 -
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You have had much more success than I. Out of the first seven sites I've done since patch, not a single, yes... a big 0 cans, had anything in them. I haven't been doing hacking for too long prior to the patch, but every other hacking site in other regions that I have been to before at least had something in one of the cans.
The drop rate is ludicrous imo. I really hope it's just something they overlooked and not intentional. With the amount of time spent to nail these down, only to repeatedly find them empty like my head makes me unhappy.
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Metaller
Ocean Dynamics
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.11 20:32:00 -
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sounds normal to me. got something out of 2 cans from 12 on the test server before trinity release.
At the moment they arent worth looking for i think
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Roger Douglas
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.12.12 04:01:00 -
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Hint:
The cans can be hacked more than once ;)
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SumDum
AirHawk Alliance
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.12 04:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Roger Douglas
Hint:
The cans can be hacked more than once ;)
I have tried that, admittedly I was tired, ****y and drunk so I doubt I was thorough.
*sigh* back to the buzzard
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Niedar
MASS
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Posted - 2007.12.12 05:35:00 -
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Its the drone regions, its either crap and intended or crap and unintended but will still be crap when its fixed.
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SumDum
AirHawk Alliance
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.12 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Roger Douglas
Hint:
The cans can be hacked more than once ;)
While this is true, they can be hacked many many many many times, they are empty every single time.
Nothing like a wild goose chase.
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.12 18:02:00 -
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Update on my Exploring:
The total number of Radar Sites I've found is now up to 6. One of the Research and Development cans had a BPC of an integrated Acolyte. All others have still been empty. It seems that there is only one Drone Region Radar site: the 'Abandoned Research Complex - DAO25' I think.
We've found that the other types of sites, both Encounters and Unknown Explorations, can drop decent amounts of the drone components. I'd say 40-50 parts in complexes like Radiance and Independance.
About 'hacking multiple times' .... I really don't know what you're referring to. When I hack a can, it says 'Can already accessed and no further activity needed to acces its contents' or some such verbage. In other words...you can't hack more than once. If you're referring to some different mechanism, please clairify.
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SumDum
AirHawk Alliance
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.12 21:20:00 -
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Cans are on about a 2-3 minute timer where you can activate your codebreaker on it again. It still produces an empty can, I've never seen the contents improve.
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Metaller
Ocean Dynamics
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.12 22:26:00 -
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Edited by: Metaller on 12/12/2007 22:26:16
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Update on my Exploring:
The total number of Radar Sites I've found is now up to 6. One of the Research and Development cans had a BPC of an integrated Acolyte. All others have still been empty. It seems that there is only one Drone Region Radar site: the 'Abandoned Research Complex - DAO25' I think.
We've found that the other types of sites, both Encounters and Unknown Explorations, can drop decent amounts of the drone components. I'd say 40-50 parts in complexes like Radiance and Independance.
About 'hacking multiple times' .... I really don't know what you're referring to. When I hack a can, it says 'Can already accessed and no further activity needed to acces its contents' or some such verbage. In other words...you can't hack more than once. If you're referring to some different mechanism, please clairify.
Ive found 2 different sites on sisi before trinity release. They only differed by the Number at the end of the name. One even gave a expedition to another hacking site a few jumps away. since i got no dead end message there and the expedition didnt continue i guess the expedtition only had one step. that step looked pretty much like the site ive found before, just some different rats.
P.S. i guess thats with multiple hacking is just a bug.
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Roger Douglas
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.12.12 22:44:00 -
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OK, regarding multiple hacking attempts:
Like the rest of you I was running into empty cans in these sites. However, after finishing off a site that had 7 cruise and 5 heavy launchers (the one with the large bowl shaped drone structure and all the red drone silos in the center), The first round of hacking attempts resulted in 3 empty cans. I was hot swapping between my domi and helios, since hacking a can often produces a couple of frig rats.
I was frustrated by the empty cans, but i noticed that if i swapped ships, or warped in or out I could rehack the cans. I had an alt in a pod there at the site to "placehold" it in case they despawn if you leave ( I don't know if this happens, but better safe than sorry).
So, I chose one of the containment cans, the one marked LMH-A-1 B . I hacked it again, and got a second spawn of rats. I thought it was unusual, swapped out ships, killed the rats, and finished the hack. From a formerly empty can I got 2 integrated infiltator blueprints! I moved to the second containment can, the one marked LMH-A-1 N. A second hack didn't produce rats, but 11 components. I moved to the research station marked LMH-A-1 F. This produced nothing again.
Subsequent hacks also produced nothing. I varied the order, hacked the cans an additional 2 times with no result.
So, my conclusion that the cans may be hacked more than once comes from the fact that a second round of hacking after an inital empty attempt produced components and 2 bpc's.
Check your sites. If you run into one with cruise missles, this technique may work better. I have not tried it yet on the lower sites.
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SumDum
AirHawk Alliance
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.13 01:53:00 -
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Interesting, I've tried re-hacking the same cans with the same ship but haven't tried swapping to a new ship. As for re-hacking in the same ship, if you wait 2-3 minutes the container is able to be hacked again, but like I said it is still empty. I have only had sites with heavy and light launchers so far, although I had one site with an energy neutralizer cannon which took me a little bit by surprise. Same designation can though btw.
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.13 15:22:00 -
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Hmmm. I might try that on the next hacking site I find. I know in the old Cosmos missions you could get into a situation where cans became full again.
I've gotta pay more attention to the final letters in the complex name. it still seems as though I've only been finding one Radar site type. Up to 6 of them scanned out now, and still only one integrated Acolyte bpc.
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Jadin Lazarin
Caldari
Best Path Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.13 17:54:00 -
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I have only found one RADAR site to date in the drone regions, and was the one with the heavy neutralizer which I cleared out the signature and then proceeded to hack the cans. Unfortunately they gave me nothing even though the one can did spawn 3 frigs when hacking, its a little disappointing given the rarity of the sites, of course the rarity could just be from my prospective and others might find the sites while I am at working and complete them.
Out of curiosity, how do you go venture out into 0.0 and scan, do you bring a corp mate or alt to clear the room for you after you find a site? Or do you bite the bullet and lose the scan item benefits and put the launcher on a BS or something?
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Roger Douglas
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.12.13 18:32:00 -
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Since we live out here, I'm never very far from a POS or station, so I scan with a covops, find a site, bring an alt in with a pod to hold it, dump covops at safespot or POS, then go get ratting ship. Hot swap in the same system as needed.
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.13 21:15:00 -
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Same here for me... Rule of Three is based in the Drone Regions. I'm scanning my own backyard.
Exploration out here is easy, cuz for the year and a half that the Drone Regions have been open there has been NOTHING worth even the price of the damm probes. Everyone who wanted to explore left here long ago for richer pastures ... which actually is ANYWHERE that was not Drone Regions.
I'm completely convinced that our Region name when we finally get one will be 'Ethopia'.
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Tewdric
Sheba Industries
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.15 13:56:00 -
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Princess Jodi, i've replicated the exact same problem, after speaking to one of the devs on this i've filed a bug report, since the patch last week i've cleared 3 drone radar sites and the first 2 sites 2 out of the 3 cans where permanently empty, the 3rd site i cleared just 10 mins ago of making this post all 3 cans where empty you might want to do the same.
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Sinjuri
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Posted - 2007.12.15 15:30:00 -
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Same here, exploring in the drone regions just sucks...
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Tewdric
Sheba Industries
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.15 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sinjuri
Same here, exploring in the drone regions just sucks...
erm... i woudlnt say it sucks... the only thing that seams to be not working as intended is the new Drone "Radar" sites which what this thread is about, everything else exploration related to the drone regions is fine as far as i am concerned
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.17 15:33:00 -
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Glad you took the time to fill out a bug report...I hope it helps.
For reference, I'm up to 14 found Radar sites now, and evey single one of them was the same 'D005' site. Each time, at least 2 of the 3 cans are empty. Twice all cans were empty.
I've gotten a total of 3 integrated acolyte bpc's,and 1 med drone bpc now. I know of a corpmate that has gotten heavy bpc's, but from the complex with cruiser missiles that I still have not found.
I sure with the prices would stabalize for the parts, however. At present Jita prices, a single light drone would cost about 10 mill.
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SumDum
AirHawk Alliance
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.19 04:48:00 -
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Anyone have any more success post-patch? I didn't see anything about drone radar sites in the patch notes, but I am holding out a sliver of hope that they stealth fixed this drop rate. Just going over what other regions are boasting for drop rates now, it seems rather harsh that people in the drone regions are still getting such an extremely low drop rate.
Are the new drones that good that they need to keep the drop rate down for bpc's?
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