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Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.04 11:14:00 -
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right now the issue is THERE IS NO RETORT FOR SOMEONE THATS USING RECYCLABLE CHARACTERS spy/suicide gank to hearts desire, biomass alt (or sell) when character is too well known, make new one, rinse and repeat also, there are always talk of "getting back at people" but in a game where death is a slap on the wrist and they have nothing to take, what can you take to get even?
known botters simply sell the character after it gets warned and buy/make another one for their tengu alts
eve is not a harsh universe, it is simply spreadsheets in space. the only thing harsh about it is the assholeism (excuse my language) that other players do and make a religion about it.
you will NEVER get podded by anyone other than a player. there is absolutely no risk from the NPCs other than another player showing up. there is no consequences in Eve Online, only from other players, and that reach is short as they can only take things you put in front of them.
NPCs will never retaliate, will never think, and will never ever pose an actual threat.
why is this game advertised as a "cold harsh universe" when the only "cold harsh" i get is from the 0.0 overlords or other players? |
Keno Skir
84
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Posted - 2012.02.04 11:32:00 -
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How would you suggest policing what actual real person is using what character? Get ccp to hack everyones webcam and make webcams mandatory? Special EvE Online thumbprint / retinal scanners for login?
Fair enough its a gap in the game, but since you have no ideas for fixing it and just want to rant on the forums i feel that you post is lacking in substance. The same thing could happen in any other game where the option to make a new account is available, and while it sucks a bit there really isnt much anyone can do about it.
EXTRA NOTE BY EDIT : Barbie D0LL you should pick better fights if you want more risk, your killboards show only 4 kills, 3 of which defenceless mining ships with several other pilots on her team as well for all kills. If you want the risk of being podded you need to enter a fight with an armed ship in the first place. The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
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Posted - 2012.02.04 11:42:00 -
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Problem is if you hound someone through all their characters (accounts even) you are taking the fight out of the game and making it personal, which would be seen as a form of harassment.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1325
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Posted - 2012.02.04 12:11:00 -
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not enough risk in the game..
figures
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Liam Mirren
226
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Posted - 2012.02.04 12:11:00 -
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- complains about lack of risk - uses forum alt
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |
Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.04 12:44:00 -
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I think that CCP should add more risk. Every hour your ship has a 50% chance to explode. It can be reduced by "Anti Explosion Measures(rank 3)" 1% per skill level. "Advanced Anti Explosion Measures(rank 8)" 0,5% per skill level. And Anti Exploding Implants which can be inserted in every slot for 0,75% per implant. This would make eve more fun and exciting. |
Spectre80
The Knights Templar GIANTSBANE.
47
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Posted - 2012.02.04 13:10:00 -
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90% of eve players are huge gaping assholes, me included. |
Raiz Nhell
DEEP CORPS
18
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Posted - 2012.02.04 13:24:00 -
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If the game isn't for you then play something else... No whining in forums....
And if you get that worked up about it, then I recommend 3 deep breaths, and 100 lines...
"its just a game, if I'm not happy, I can find another game, it's just a game"
Otherwise harden up and make pretty explosions...
I'm so carebear my Pod bleeds rainbow...
Beers + nullsec + dodgy fit = Loss mail |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1419
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Posted - 2012.02.04 13:25:00 -
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ip bans for botters. not infallible but a lot better than just per account. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Azitek
Astrum Tech Pina Colada Armada
37
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Posted - 2012.02.04 13:32:00 -
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I agree that more aggressive NPCs would be awesome. Deployed your POS in a WH? Expect sleepers to start shooting it in a couple days. WH in your highsec system? Be on the lookout for sleeper scout gangs in your belts. Got popped in an incursion? Better start spamming that warp button before the rats pod you. |
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Honnete Du Decimer
27
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Posted - 2012.02.04 13:33:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Problem is if you hound someone through all their characters (accounts even) you are taking the fight out of the game and making it personal, which would be seen as a form of harassment.
Problem is they attack you and have no risk. No can hit them place hurt the most.
Liam Mirren wrote:- complains about lack of risk - uses forum alt
You no like also - come cry corner with us! Andreski here already.
Barbie D0ll wrote:recyclable characters?
Big problem for this and alt account here. PMS |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
407
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Posted - 2012.02.04 13:36:00 -
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It's a game it still needs to be fun play, not a omg think I better not undock today situation.
You want more risk? Go fly in your incursion faction fit boat and start p-ing people off in local. You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here.-á(CCP Nullarbor) |
Ghoest
244
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Posted - 2012.02.04 13:36:00 -
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@ OP
Risk is regulated by the players. Its this way in all similar games. Players choose activities with a level and risk and reward level that makes them comfortable.
Dont be such a noob. Wherever You Went - Here You Are |
Honnete Du Decimer
27
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Posted - 2012.02.04 13:39:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:It's a game it still needs to be fun play, not a omg think I better not undock today situation. You want more risk? Go fly in your incursion faction fit boat and start p-ing people off in local.
Equal of risk. People who use alt no have. Old rich alt is hide safe, make ISK. New rubbish one die - he no care. All want is easy alpha gank on your main then he hide - cowards.
Game in many way make too ease for the slime people. PMS |
Pelador Rova
Paladin Philanthropists
55
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Posted - 2012.02.04 14:53:00 -
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Well seeing as you have no figures to support your claim, I thought I would do a simple quick study.
Its a count of pages of all monthly kills on EvE Kill, which in theory should show the relative scale of aggression in EvE, it has a trend line included.
The trend figures show a relative growth of kills over the period Jan 2009 to Jan 2012 as roughly an increase of 10 percent.
EvE Kill Page Counts |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
303
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Posted - 2012.02.04 15:04:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:ip bans for botters. not infallible but a lot better than just per account.
'Tis quite amazing that is has not been Policy all along. OMG He Spent His Free-áAURUM ! God is simply-áthe very extraordinary power of the Universe to organize Itself as percieved. -á-á- Lee Smolin "Three Roads to Quantum Gravity" |
Jonny Lumi
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.04 15:49:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Lady Spank wrote:ip bans for botters. not infallible but a lot better than just per account. 'Tis quite amazing that is has not been Policy all along.
It's quite amazing that IP-address is tattooed into a person's skin, and the poor bastard is not allowed to change it ever. Luckily one IP-address is only used by one person in the whole world.
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MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
118
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Posted - 2012.02.04 16:01:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:ip bans for botters. not infallible but a lot better than just per account.
Ok, so they just release their ip and get a new one. Now someone else gets that ip from the ISP and they can never play. Not a solution. Why are my neocom icons so tiny? Oh, you can widen and narrow the bar. Cool.-á |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2012.02.04 16:15:00 -
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So if I control all of Europe in Risk, then I generate how many extra armies again...?
Oh, wrong risk - sorry. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3087
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Posted - 2012.02.04 16:36:00 -
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Well if you bought an entire IP range.
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Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1077
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Posted - 2012.02.04 19:07:00 -
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Recycleable alt posting rants about recycleable alts. |
Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2012.02.05 04:11:00 -
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Feligast wrote:Recycleable alt posting rants about recycleable alts. because all the cool kids use recycleable alts
jokes aside I use this alt because I can't reliably post with my main because I don't live in deep null where I can't get ganked with immunity to no retort for posting ideas like this in the forums by people using recycleable alts to gank people in highsec risk free.
Keno Skir wrote:EXTRA NOTE BY EDIT : Barbie D0LL you should pick better fights if you want more risk, your killboards show only 4 kills, 3 of which defenceless mining ships with several other pilots on her team as well for all kills. If you want the risk of being podded you need to enter a fight with an armed ship in the first place.
i cant even find myself on eve-kill, where did you pull this information from? |
Ai Shun
246
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Posted - 2012.02.05 04:36:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Lady Spank wrote:ip bans for botters. not infallible but a lot better than just per account. 'Tis quite amazing that is has not been Policy all along.
Probably because you can potentially cut off everyone in a university dormitory; office building or apartment complex or anyone who is behind a NAT type device. An IP Address can not always be used to unique identify someone so as a metric gaming companies will very, very, very rarely use it. It is generally a bit stupid to do so.
And we're not even considering DHCP allocated IPs that are (sometimes) recycled whenever a router reboots.
Barbie D0ll wrote:why is this game advertised as a "cold harsh universe" when the only "cold harsh" i get is from the 0.0 overlords or other players?
Because it is a sandbox game. Players make and shape the game. You need to engage players if you want real risk. |
Red Teufel
Blackened Skies THE UNTHINKABLES
37
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Posted - 2012.02.05 06:24:00 -
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carebear crying about carebearing is all i'm hearing. go out and pvp sometime wuss. |
Tore Vest
187
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Posted - 2012.02.05 06:32:00 -
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Its nothing wrong with beeing a carebear Highsec carebear... and proud of it |
Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2012.02.05 06:53:00 -
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Red Teufel wrote:carebear crying about carebearing is all i'm hearing. go out and pvp sometime wuss. i usually either carebear in high, pirate in low, or gank in w-space there are currently 3 people with killrights on my main |
Ioci
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
73
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Posted - 2012.02.05 07:16:00 -
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Meta gaming is as old as EVE. Spend less time worrying about what you can't change, more time thinking about what you can and life is alot more relaxed. |
Gantz Tleilax
Tleilax Foundation
26
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Posted - 2012.02.05 08:31:00 -
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I agree, this game doesn't have enough risk. I vote for electrical wires attached to your anus, set to shock you when your prodded.
That's meta gaming! |
Ferrenc
TRIGGER FINGER - E.O.D Gryphon League
45
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Posted - 2012.02.05 08:53:00 -
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i dont recycle my alts but if someone wants to spend their training time endlessly creating and training up new faux noobs for griefing and spying why not let them, they spend their sub to make chars that they'll trash, and if you admit a 2 week old toon into your corp you're a dumbass and if you get ganked by one you're also a dumbass |
Msgerbs
Imperial Assualt Guild
2
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Posted - 2012.02.05 10:09:00 -
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Azitek wrote:I agree that more aggressive NPCs would be awesome. Deployed your POS in a WH? Expect sleepers to start shooting it in a couple days. WH in your highsec system? Be on the lookout for sleeper scout gangs in your belts. Got popped in an incursion? Better start spamming that warp button before the rats pod you. I'd cycle static wormholes until I get one in a popular mining system and watch the sleepers pew all the afk miners and pod them. |
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