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Palamedia	Posted - 2007.12.13 19:45:00 - [1] Edited by: Palamedia on 13/12/2007 19:46:22 Firstly I want to salute you guys for trying to get this game up under linux. Love it. It's so close!! but not quite.. Clicking the Icon Launches the application and you see the EVE Trinity screenshot with the user name and log in prompt. Just like windows. Works fine. Type in my name and password and it forwards me to the character select screen.. It sits and thinks about it for a few seconds (5 ish) and then crashes. It never actually loads the little character portraits. Thoughts? I'm pretty new to linux so any suggestions you have would be great. cpu: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz cpu_ghz: 2.79 memory: 2016 videocard_manufacturer: Tungsten Graphics, Inc videocard_type: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945G 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2 videocard_ram: 2048 agp_aperture_size: N/A videocard_driver_version: 1.3 Mesa 7.0.1 soundcard: HDA Intel at 0xd01c0000 irq 2 soundcard_driver: ALSA Version 1.0.14 machine_bitness: 32 kernel: 2.6.22-14-386 x_version: Xorg Version 1.3.0 distro: Debian lenny/sid GUI version: eve-000066
Darahk J'olonar Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.12.13 19:55:00 - [2] Originally by: Palamedia Edited by: Palamedia on 13/12/2007 19:46:22 Firstly I want to salute you guys for trying to get this game up under linux. Love it. It's so close!! but not quite.. Clicking the Icon Launches the application and you see the EVE Trinity screenshot with the user name and log in prompt. Just like windows. Works fine. Type in my name and password and it forwards me to the character select screen.. It sits and thinks about it for a few seconds (5 ish) and then crashes. It never actually loads the little character portraits. Thoughts? I'm pretty new to linux so any suggestions you have would be great. cpu: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz cpu_ghz: 2.79 memory: 2016 videocard_manufacturer: Tungsten Graphics, Inc videocard_type: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945G 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2 videocard_ram: 2048 agp_aperture_size: N/A videocard_driver_version: 1.3 Mesa 7.0.1 soundcard: HDA Intel at 0xd01c0000 irq 2 soundcard_driver: ALSA Version 1.0.14 machine_bitness: 32 kernel: 2.6.22-14-386 x_version: Xorg Version 1.3.0 distro: Debian lenny/sid GUI version: eve-000066 You might wanna try Wine because the only "supported" card is nVidia for Linux with the official client. Many have gotten the ATI cards to work as well with a little work but I don't think your integrated Intel video chipset is gonna work.
Palamedia	Posted - 2007.12.13 20:14:00 - [3] Originally by: Darahk J'olonar You might wanna try Wine because the only "supported" card is nVidia for Linux with the official client. Many have gotten the ATI cards to work as well with a little work but I don't think your integrated Intel video chipset is gonna work. OH.. Drat.. I thought "Cedega" or whatever the default installer uses was wine?
benzss Templar Securities and Holdings Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.12.13 20:50:00 - [4] Originally by: Palamedia Originally by: Darahk J'olonar You might wanna try Wine because the only "supported" card is nVidia for Linux with the official client. Many have gotten the ATI cards to work as well with a little work but I don't think your integrated Intel video chipset is gonna work. OH.. Drat.. I thought "Cedega" or whatever the default installer uses was wine? I think it has developed separately from wine from an older version. Cedega used to be known as WineX and is fairly similar.
NightKhaos Gallente Seridian Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.12.17 11:59:00 - [5] Edited by: NightKhaos on 17/12/2007 11:59:41 This is correct, there are three "trees" so to speck of WINE development, WINE, Cedega and CXOffice. WINE is just general Windows API implementation, CXOffice is designed specificly for Office Suites, namely Microsoft Office, and Cedega was designed with the focus being on DirectX. Generally specking it is possible to get any application, including EVE, running on either client, however using a specialist client such as Cedega decreases the workload of the user because all the optimizations have already been worked out. It is these optimizations that we pay TransGamming for. CPU: Intel Core2 T5500 @ 1.66 RAM: 1024 GPU: nVidia GeForce Go 7300 GPU Drivers: 2.1.1 NVIDIA 100.14.19 Sound Card: HDA Intel Sound Card Driver: ALSA Version 1.0.14 Kernel: 2.6.23-gentoo-r3
Valeo Galaem New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:13:00 - [6] Originally by: NightKhaos It is these optimizations that we pay TransGamming for. I generally find that Wine has better performance and stability than Cedega when EVE is concerned. That said, while Wine might have a leg up on technology and coding, TG offers support and a product that usually "Just Works". Thar be Pirates You are not authorised to hack into CONCORD's mainframe Your Wallet has been emptied! CONCORD Encryption Methods
Snowcrash Winterheart2 Gallente Concordia Discors	Posted - 2007.12.17 14:44:00 - [7] Originally by: Palamedia videocard_manufacturer: Tungsten Graphics, Inc videocard_type: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945G 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2 Skipping the Cegeda/Wine/CXOffice stuff. This will be your major hurdle. The really annoying thing is in Windows EVE will work a-ok on that chipset. In Linux it probably won't, although you might get a nice surprise from using Wine and following the various instructions towards the end of the mega-thread. You could hunt around and see if Intel have put out newer drivers with better capabilities (that one is apparently dated 2006), but don't get your hopes up. Intel, do some reason decided to use a hybrid system of part hardware and part software in Linux, whilst the drivers in Windows do it all in hardware; lazy devs... need more whipping. ----- Four paws... four sets of claws.
Suki Kamir	Posted - 2007.12.17 15:46:00 - [8] Edited by: Suki Kamir on 17/12/2007 15:49:19 Originally by: Snowcrash Winterheart2 Originally by: Palamedia videocard_manufacturer: Tungsten Graphics, Inc videocard_type: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945G 20061017 x86/MMX/SSE2 Skipping the Cegeda/Wine/CXOffice stuff. This will be your major hurdle. The really annoying thing is in Windows EVE will work a-ok on that chipset. In Linux it probably won't, although you might get a nice surprise from using Wine and following the various instructions towards the end of the mega-thread. You could hunt around and see if Intel have put out newer drivers with better capabilities (that one is apparently dated 2006), but don't get your hopes up. Intel, do some reason decided to use a hybrid system of part hardware and part software in Linux, whilst the drivers in Windows do it all in hardware; lazy devs... need more whipping. Not strictly true. The cedega wrapped client will not work with Intel graphics but my friend had the regular Cedega with the windows eve client working fine with his Intel graphics on his laptop. This was just before Trinity was released so I am not sure if it is still working with the new windows classic client under cedega, but I don't see why it wouldn't since it is only the Official cedega client which only supports Nvidia. As for Intel graphics drivers, they are actually some of the best drivers you can get for graphics in Linux given the fact that at least one of the people at Intel working on the drivers also develops for opendesktop aka xorg. So you tend to find that changes in xorg (such as xrandr 1.2) are implemented much quicker in Intel drivers than they are in Nvidia (for example, NVidia drivers still do not support xrandr 1.2 specific features). Keith (the afore mentioned person) has worked on X11 related stuff for about 20 years or something daft, so he knows a little about it :) Suki
Palamedia	Posted - 2007.12.17 16:28:00 - [9] Great stuff guys thanks for the reply's so far.. I'm still fairly new to the whole gaming in Linux thing so I may be a fool for even trying.. heh Especially considering this is just a backup box and this whole exercise is to test the feasibility in the first place.. Where I am confused is; the login screen works -- Doesn't that use the same engine? And I can get to the character select screen, and it looks fine.. For about 5 seconds of course.. then it drops. Everything looks right, except the snapshots of the characters are never loaded. It seems to reason that if I can get that far I have most of the major hurdles crossed yes? Would updating the drivers help? I think I'm using Cedega now, how do I try it in just Wine? thanks all
Suki Kamir	Posted - 2007.12.17 16:39:00 - [10] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=30457&page=59#1747 Check that post out, it gives pretty much all the info you need for getting ti working under wine. Suki



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