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Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:10:00 - [31] Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 18/12/2007 09:40:09 If its of any use, my moral is down. And i know majority of my frends are breaking down as well. Never been so scared and confused in my whole life (RL as well). Especialy when i see all expiriance info provided by those that lasted for such a long time, but still, same ppl that swalowed BOB propaganda in past (without any skill to back it up at same time). Im sure their mind is very strong and should be taken as advicers. lol, little bugs all over EVE sharing great wisdom, back it up with glorious things they did in their EVE life Pick up the moral and fight. That's what we want. Originally by: Darcuese I wouldnt care about Goons tbh. Im more concern about ppl stupidity generally. I need more zig
whahein Minmatar Bipolar Barnstorming	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:20:00 - [32] BoB never stood alone against anyone and theyve turned on more then one former ally. I can remember any war that bob did alone not against goonswarm in syndicate they had help from d2 not vs -G- they had help from ASCN and LV. And always always with MC as key advisors and elite fighters when ever they could not blob their way out of it. Before goonswarm took blobbing to an higher level and made it an artform it was bob who were famous for always bringing the numbers and running when ods were lover then 3:1 for a win. All bob have left now is game mechanics and they can probably stall some offence due to cyno jammers and such but they are for the first time in memory not surounded by allies and fighting someone they cant unblob because RSF unlike ASCN does log in most of their numbers on fightnight.
Kastar Memphis Technologies Intergalactic Brotherhood	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:24:00 - [33] Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 18/12/2007 09:40:09 If its of any use, my moral is down. And i know majority of my frends are breaking down as well. Never been so scared and confused in my whole life (RL as well). Especialy when i see all expiriance info provided by those that lasted for such a long time, but still, same ppl that swalowed BOB propaganda in past (without any skill to back it up at same time). Im sure their mind is very strong and should be taken as advicers. lol, little bugs all over EVE sharing great wisdom, back it up with glorious things they did in their EVE life Oy Darc !! Been finding a lot of your posts the last days. Seems you need a good old fashioned troutslapping Abandon arguments and politics my friend and come back to us lowsec mind-your-own-business type of worms -kas -----------------------------------------------
Alura Milan Evolution	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:25:00 - [34] Originally by: whahein BoB never stood alone against anyone and theyve turned on more then one former ally. I can remember any war that bob did alone not against goonswarm in syndicate they had help from d2 not vs -G- they had help from ASCN and LV. And always always with MC as key advisors and elite fighters when ever they could not blob their way out of it. Before goonswarm took blobbing to an higher level and made it an artform it was bob who were famous for always bringing the numbers and running when ods were lover then 3:1 for a win. All bob have left now is game mechanics and they can probably stall some offence due to cyno jammers and such but they are for the first time in memory not surounded by allies and fighting someone they cant unblob because RSF unlike ASCN does log in most of their numbers on fightnight. Who told you
Desash The Extremely Norty Gankers Union	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:29:00 - [35] Originally by: Lunas Feelgood without the old atuk guys BOB would have died a long time ago dear. Died at the hands of who exactly? BoB's first major target after DICE joined was ASCN. I doubt BoB would have attacked ASCN if DICE hadn't formed and joined BoB so it wouldn't have been ASCN defeating BoB. Furthermore, ASCN were on friendly terms with BoB prior to DICE (in a loose kind of way) so any other major threat towards BoB could possibly have brought ASCN in on BoB's side. You would potentially have seen the equivalent of the RAGoon effect back then. You don't need to be a brain surgeon to know how effective the BoB/ASCN/LV powerblock could have been. Learn your history dear.
Reite Art of War	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:37:00 - [36] Originally by: Desash Originally by: Lunas Feelgood without the old atuk guys BOB would have died a long time ago dear. Died at the hands of who exactly? BoB's first major target after DICE joined was ASCN. I doubt BoB would have attacked ASCN if DICE hadn't formed and joined BoB so it wouldn't have been ASCN defeating BoB. Furthermore, ASCN were on friendly terms with BoB prior to DICE (in a loose kind of way) so any other major threat towards BoB could possibly have brought ASCN in on BoB's side. You would potentially have seen the equivalent of the RAGoon effect back then. You don't need to be a brain surgeon to know how effective the BoB/ASCN/LV powerblock could have been. Learn your history dear. If BOBs goal was to rule the world they wouldnt have attacked everyone would they. I think your understanding of BOB is pretty damn wrong:)
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:37:00 - [37] Originally by: Desash Originally by: Lunas Feelgood without the old atuk guys BOB would have died a long time ago dear. Died at the hands of who exactly? BoB's first major target after DICE joined was ASCN. I doubt BoB would have attacked ASCN if DICE hadn't formed and joined BoB so it wouldn't have been ASCN defeating BoB. Furthermore, ASCN were on friendly terms with BoB prior to DICE (in a loose kind of way) so any other major threat towards BoB could possibly have brought ASCN in on BoB's side. You would potentially have seen the equivalent of the RAGoon effect back then. You don't need to be a brain surgeon to know how effective the BoB/ASCN/LV powerblock could have been. Learn your history dear. indeed. after DICE joining BoB and they made a standings reset, but before the war, we did send some help to LV space to fight RA. ok yes not much, but it was something. then the war started and we already know what happened. truth is, things might've been allot different if DICE didn't join BoB. --- planetary interaction idea!
Sir Dancealot	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:21:00 - [38] Originally by: Reite Originally by: Desash Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Mimimi Mimimi If BOBs goal was to rule the world they wouldnt have attacked everyone would they. I think your understanding of BOB is pretty damn wrong:) Sorry to go off-topic but, REITE </ Good grief it's been a long time! Originally by: Incantare Thread does not deliver. I was expecting a story, funny, surprising or otherwise interesting. Instead I got to read Kehmor's smacking. Awesome.
Wanna Kill Caldari Hybrid Syndicate Blood Blind	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:21:00 - [39] Originally by: Sir Dancealot Originally by: Reite Originally by: Desash Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Mimimi Mimimi If BOBs goal was to rule the world they wouldnt have attacked everyone would they. I think your understanding of BOB is pretty damn wrong:) Sorry to go off-topic but, REITE </ Good grief it's been a long time! Its me, im da alt without da corp, ----------
Desash The Extremely Norty Gankers Union	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:24:00 - [40] Originally by: Reite Originally by: Desash Died at the hands of who exactly? BoB's first major target after DICE joined was ASCN. I doubt BoB would have attacked ASCN if DICE hadn't formed and joined BoB so it wouldn't have been ASCN defeating BoB. Furthermore, ASCN were on friendly terms with BoB prior to DICE (in a loose kind of way) so any other major threat towards BoB could possibly have brought ASCN in on BoB's side. You would potentially have seen the equivalent of the RAGoon effect back then. You don't need to be a brain surgeon to know how effective the BoB/ASCN/LV powerblock could have been. Learn your history dear. If BOBs goal was to rule the world they wouldnt have attacked everyone would they. I think your understanding of BOB is pretty damn wrong:) It would be interesting to know when BoB first made their declaration to 'rule the world'. If it was during the DICE period then my analysis still holds water.
Hermosa Diosas The-Secret-Service Retribution.	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:29:00 - [41] Well yes they do deserve all this, however so do there allies, when the going gets tough the allies have now defected. But when Bob owned most of the southern area they basically milked it for everything they could charging 6 billion for constellations per month and ruling with utmost contempt, not giving a toss about anyone else. So yes they do deserve it, Bob will be gone soon, and I hope the goons dont turn out to be another Bob as it seems they might be as they have now taken sov of most of bobs old space. so we end up with yet another superpower controlling everything.
Sionn Klorgh Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:30:00 - [42] For some of us former ASCNers (former CLS-F here), the war never ended
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:31:00 - [43] Originally by: George Clinton Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 18/12/2007 09:40:09lol, little bugs all over EVE sharing great wisdom, back it up with glorious things they did in their EVE life teehee littel nubz what do you think about freightering all my assets into NPC stations in Delve all day?!?!? Quite frankly, If you ain't gonna get it on Take your dead ass home Oh wait thats what you did nevermind lemme think of another pfunk song to quote gimme a bit Jesus Christ. Take some deep breathes.
Pesadel0 Vagabundos	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:31:00 - [44] Originally by: Gneeznow I just started playing eve around the time the ASCN war started and the crap bobbits were spewing on the forums made me consider quitting as it seemed that people playing this game were making it all very personal, which i really couldnt stomach at the time, the stuff they were saying was pretty bad, and the circlejerking was 10 times worse than current coalition circlerking. Now they are getting a taste of their own medicine, well not really a taste, they are getting it rammed forcefully down their throats, and its pretty lawl. If you think that was smack,you should have seen the GNW,or the Curse alliance,FA alliance lol.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:37:00 - [45] Originally by: Svett It's good to see that the 'no alt posting' is working out so well for COAD. Given the attitude of its members, I am personally waiting for State War Academy to announce its Standings reset. -- Billion Isk Mission
Bosjathfort Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.12.18 12:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 18/12/2007 09:40:09 If its of any use, my moral is down. And i know majority of my frends are breaking down as well. Never been so scared and confused in my whole life (RL as well). Especialy when i see all expiriance info provided by those that lasted for such a long time, but still, same ppl that swalowed BOB propaganda in past (without any skill to back it up at same time). Im sure their mind is very strong and should be taken as advicers. lol, little bugs all over EVE sharing great wisdom, back it up with glorious things they did in their EVE life This is a perfect example of the bitter + arrogant bobit. Sir molle's big mouth and your airheaded diplomates are the reasons why you are sitting in this ****hole, Im afraid. (>'-')> <('-'<) ^('-')^ v('-')v <('-'<) ^('-')^ (>'-')> t(^-^)>
HotSeat Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.12.18 12:01:00 - [47] Sorry but BOB deserves everything coming there way. Have you forgotten Bob gained space with the help of devÆs (CCP admitted) and exploits? Fought many allianceÆs in EVE and Bob isnÆt that good TBH They come at PL in anything close to even number, even 2 to 1, and they come back in podÆs. Many other alliances do much better then Bob against us, and yes we have been owned in the past, and likely will again. Not sure where the great ôBOBö alliance went, because I have never seen it. Sov 4 is nothing compared to the Power of the Grief !!
Edo Kael Caldari THEM. Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.12.18 12:16:00 - [48] a few loose phrases ill drop here.... - the more people 'talk', the less the can concentrate on fighting. (same as in a pvp opsses) - BOB got a reputation they earned for themselves! (wether for good or bad depends on your view / position) - BOB is a force to be reckoned with, simply a fact, so please keep flaming, trolling, making them look silly whatever all in good spirits, but dont lower yourself by showing absolutely no respect to any alliance or the pilots that hold space for a 'while' let alone the major powerhouse in eve (with or without friends and mercenarys whatever. Especially when your own name u use to flame is utterly unknown in the eve community!!!) - The victory is in the loosers head! Untill that moment the fights continues and there is no victor!!! - BOB is just another alliance.... WHA!?...... yup, another alliance like the rest, cause they can be defeated, its just a matter of finding the right things to do to make them flip over to their backs. If it exist or is even possible for the lot that is fighting them is in that 'lot' hands to make it true or not. BOB has allready shown much well performed action in their existance, if they make it happen again is something i am really interested in! nothing is forever soooooo. - Id like to invite GOONS mostly to actually stop boasting about all the 'victorys' they had and save it for when victory IS achieved. so far i aint seeying goons doing this on their own as well. Of course you can keep on doing this, but what goes around comes around! (and normally when you least expect it and at the worst moment you can think of!) in short, cut down on the posting!!!!! or ill come over and spank ya'll for waisting my time well so far for a few remarks i wanted to share here. I'm following this supposedly great conflict with great interest and pleasure, for it will be EPIC i am sure, even if all of this is going to be the biggest anticlimax ever :) and then what... well then we will all be talking about a great battle for freedom by killing the biggest alliance in eve...... -_- and the next... and the next! gotta love it. in short, i thank all the participants for creating all this drama and conflict! makes EVE worthwhile for me :) cheers "Life is lesson, you learn it when youre through!"
Drexciyian The Water Margin	Posted - 2007.12.18 12:52:00 - [49] Originally by: Hitme Harder BoB really was perceived as invincible Perceived ? they WERE invincible, the thing you people get wrong now days is think BoB now is the same BoB of old, every dog has its day as the saying goes
Phoenicia Black Sea Industries Cult of War	Posted - 2007.12.18 12:55:00 - [50] Originally by: Drexciyian Originally by: Hitme Harder BoB really was perceived as invincible Perceived ? they WERE invincible, the thing you people get wrong now days is think BoB now is the same BoB of old, every dog has its day as the saying goes Thus BoB was not invincible, merely "less vincible for a defined amount of time".
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.18 12:56:00 - [51] Originally by: Gneeznow I just started playing eve around the time the ASCN war started and the crap bobbits were spewing on the forums made me consider quitting as it seemed that people playing this game were making it all very personal, which i really couldnt stomach at the time, the stuff they were saying was pretty bad, and the circlejerking was 10 times worse than current coalition circlerking. Now they are getting a taste of their own medicine, well not really a taste, they are getting it rammed forcefully down their throats, and its pretty lawl. What's more lawl is you lot all becomming what you hate. So in the end, you just wanted to be us? :mindtrip: snip Signature unsuitable for forums. Please refrain from refering to ongoing investigations in your signature - Valorem
Sultry Black	Posted - 2007.12.18 13:02:00 - [52] Edited by: Sultry Black on 18/12/2007 13:03:50 Originally by: Edo Kael a few loose phrases ill drop here.... - the more people 'talk', the less the can concentrate on fighting. (same as in a pvp opsses) - BOB got a reputation they earned for themselves! (wether for good or bad depends on your view / position) - BOB is a force to be reckoned with, simply a fact, so please keep flaming, trolling, making them look silly whatever all in good spirits, but dont lower yourself by showing absolutely no respect to any alliance or the pilots that hold space for a 'while' let alone the major powerhouse in eve (with or without friends and mercenarys whatever. Especially when your own name u use to flame is utterly unknown in the eve community!!!) - The victory is in the loosers head! Untill that moment the fights continues and there is no victor!!! - BOB is just another alliance.... WHA!?...... yup, another alliance like the rest, cause they can be defeated, its just a matter of finding the right things to do to make them flip over to their backs. If it exist or is even possible for the lot that is fighting them is in that 'lot' hands to make it true or not. BOB has allready shown much well performed action in their existance, if they make it happen again is something i am really interested in! nothing is forever soooooo. - Id like to invite GOONS mostly to actually stop boasting about all the 'victorys' they had and save it for when victory IS achieved. so far i aint seeying goons doing this on their own as well. Of course you can keep on doing this, but what goes around comes around! (and normally when you least expect it and at the worst moment you can think of!) in short, cut down on the posting!!!!! or ill come over and spank ya'll for waisting my time well so far for a few remarks i wanted to share here. I'm following this supposedly great conflict with great interest and pleasure, for it will be EPIC i am sure, even if all of this is going to be the biggest anticlimax ever :) and then what... well then we will all be talking about a great battle for freedom by killing the biggest alliance in eve...... -_- and the next... and the next! gotta love it. in short, i thank all the participants for creating all this drama and conflict! makes EVE worthwhile for me :) cheers It's just looks to me that BoB took too much space to effectively hold it on their own at this point. They are pulling back to home territory and clearly intend to stage there in 2 regions. They will likely hold Delve and blur the boundries of its surrounding systems. I don't see what the big shock here is. Some of the game mechanics have made it difficult to hold larges portions of EVE under one alliance, they have alienated some of their other allies. However, these sort of situations have a way of re-sorting themselves. I don't think BoB is down for the count, though they are now learning the lesson that destroyed RISE, ( fighting enemies 10 to 1 is not going to be successful) except on a grander scale. Ironic and perhaps they will learn from it.
Digicomm The Digital Communists	Posted - 2007.12.18 13:05:00 - [53] Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Gneeznow I just started playing eve around the time the ASCN war started and the crap bobbits were spewing on the forums made me consider quitting as it seemed that people playing this game were making it all very personal, which i really couldnt stomach at the time, the stuff they were saying was pretty bad, and the circlejerking was 10 times worse than current coalition circlerking. Now they are getting a taste of their own medicine, well not really a taste, they are getting it rammed forcefully down their throats, and its pretty lawl. What's more lawl is you lot all becomming what you hate. So in the end, you just wanted to be us? :mindtrip: QFT. Imitation is the best form of flattery. sup?
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.12.18 13:15:00 - [54] Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Gneeznow I just started playing eve around the time the ASCN war started and the crap bobbits were spewing on the forums made me consider quitting as it seemed that people playing this game were making it all very personal, which i really couldnt stomach at the time, the stuff they were saying was pretty bad, and the circlejerking was 10 times worse than current coalition circlerking. Now they are getting a taste of their own medicine, well not really a taste, they are getting it rammed forcefully down their throats, and its pretty lawl. What's more lawl is you lot all becomming what you hate. So in the end, you just wanted to be us? :mindtrip: We'll never be as bitter, arrogant or dillusional as you have shown yourselves to be, but we will have some lols at your expense, then drag your name through the dirt some more, for funs ofc, its not personal.
Angeles Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.12.18 13:21:00 - [55] Edited by: Angeles on 18/12/2007 13:21:05 Originally by: Tholarim What's more lawl is you lot all becomming what you hate. So in the end, you just wanted to be us? :mindtrip: I hate cheaters does that mean i am becoming one? no it does not, i was living in eso when BOB started all this with ASCN all i got was countless smack in local about 'how we have no home' well look how the tables have turned
Zell Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.12.18 13:27:00 - [56] Originally by: Galen Darksmith Quote: But does BoB deserve this kinda crap from worthless noobs like me that have never successfully made it onto a killmail? Given that BoB, in their posting history, have taunted just about the entirety of the EVE universe at some point or another, I'd say yes. Goons next then? A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once..
WrathOfOprah Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.12.18 13:29:00 - [57] Originally by: Zell Originally by: Galen Darksmith Quote: But does BoB deserve this kinda crap from worthless noobs like me that have never successfully made it onto a killmail? Given that BoB, in their posting history, have taunted just about the entirety of the EVE universe at some point or another, I'd say yes. Goons next then? We've already been up on the chopping block...
shaerc Tree of Liberty	Posted - 2007.12.18 13:30:00 - [58] Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Gneeznow I just started playing eve around the time the ASCN war started and the crap bobbits were spewing on the forums made me consider quitting as it seemed that people playing this game were making it all very personal, which i really couldnt stomach at the time, the stuff they were saying was pretty bad, and the circlejerking was 10 times worse than current coalition circlerking. Now they are getting a taste of their own medicine, well not really a taste, they are getting it rammed forcefully down their throats, and its pretty lawl. What's more lawl is you lot all becomming what you hate. So in the end, you just wanted to be us? :mindtrip: We'll never be as bitter, arrogant..... or dillusional...... as you have shown yourselves to be Well at the very least I'm pretty sure you've got the delusional bit down pat already
Reite Art of War	Posted - 2007.12.18 13:31:00 - [59] Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Gneeznow I just started playing eve around the time the ASCN war started and the crap bobbits were spewing on the forums made me consider quitting as it seemed that people playing this game were making it all very personal, which i really couldnt stomach at the time, the stuff they were saying was pretty bad, and the circlejerking was 10 times worse than current coalition circlerking. Now they are getting a taste of their own medicine, well not really a taste, they are getting it rammed forcefully down their throats, and its pretty lawl. What's more lawl is you lot all becomming what you hate. So in the end, you just wanted to be us? :mindtrip: We'll never be as bitter, arrogant or dillusional as you have shown yourselves to be, but we will have some lols at your expense, then drag your name through the dirt some more, for funs ofc, its not personal. haha your post is the essence of irony! and OT: Hi wanna kill, you should msg me ingame some day! and you should stop reading CAOD, its full of crap;)
Adiana	Posted - 2007.12.18 14:39:00 - [60] Does bob deserve what's happening now? yes and no really , bob as a whole doesn't there are a lot of decent chaps in BOB , but some of the bob propaganda machine was so fkn awfull and well the "death" of BOB is a long way to go . I hope they won't be arrognt enough to actually attack mc kia evoke and outbreak and this opening yet another front that can wear them down. But if we speak bout Delve ... well hey It's there last base of defence. without that it's back to empire / disband. Dun forget a wolf against a wall is twice as dangerous , and honestly speaking have we ever even seen a serious BOB? Upto now they have fought but their allies took the main beatings , they used MC on several occasions against other big targets. Now it's BOB in their homespace against ... wel alot of EVE players (maybe 25% tops so dun got to*****y with omg al eve vs BOB). The chances of bob winning if we look at numbers are Nihil , but well i'm not sure BOB will lose Delve really :p They will use every trick , strategy and means in order to keep that space and if it gets taken from them it will be against a huge cost. saying that , they could also just pack up all their gear , jump the whole bob slabang to North and take some space up north lol just saying the end of BOB in my opinion is a long way to go

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