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Max Teranous BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.12.18 09:56:00 - [61] Originally by: Arcadia Joranum This is so ridiculous, its not even funny. http://images.shak.ca:8081/right.PNG Considering we noticed D-L being under pressure less than 48 hours ago, that comment from Galavet is pretty impossible in the first place. As he has not been ingame for the past two days.. Could you please stop trying to smear your useless propaganda, or at least check who of our leaders have been available and who not, before trying such things. Edit: Changed image to link. Thank you. This makes total sense, as no-one has ever used alts, forums, IRC or MSN to communicate things to others in eve. Oh wai.... Max
Stupid Poon Inside Trading	Posted - 2007.12.18 09:58:00 - [62] BoB is making this something it need not be. MC and Co. simply wanted a region in which all the major mercenary groups could call home. They evicted all occupants and gave them opportunity to leave peacefully with their assets (D-L), but did not declare war against BoB. MC is simply defending its space now, and BoB is neglecting its real enemy to win a fight against an enemy it won't beat (just for self-image of course). BoB looks like they are intent on being set to -10 by every alliance and corp in EVE. Have fun being a roaming alliance because you will get picked dry in no time. I hear Sinq Laison is a great place to live.
Doosh Bagitis THE FINAL STAND Divine Retribution Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.18 09:59:00 - [63] Darcuese are you just plain stupid or what? I didn't think that someone needed to login to the EVE client to post on forums, or get news from IM and TS.
General StarScream Gallente	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:02:00 - [64] The fake is strong in this thread. lol come on we all know that mc are bob lap dogs. i would not pay a singel isk to mc. they cant be trusted to do the job. Death to bob, mc, goons and anyone else fighting to destroy eve, and the free will of our pods. Sig Removed. Dont use inappropriate language in sigs -Kaemonn
Chowdown Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:04:00 - [65] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: Chowdown Screen shot incomming, if anyone was in doubt to the morale fibre of the orginal poster. Zomg hi chowdown !!! I knew it was wrong for the bob dudes to accept you in, you're like a bad charm - every alliance fails terribly if you're in. FAILURE CASCADE WELP OMG Hi BH, what can I say I am a fan of the anti bandwagon brigade, still have your mail from 8months ago expressing your displeasure at Shinra disbanding and your desire to one day join our corp. If we ever fire it backup I will give you a shout, then you can remember what it is like to fight the bandwagoners.
Chowdown Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:07:00 - [66] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Arcadia Joranum This is so ridiculous, its not even funny. http://images.shak.ca:8081/right.PNG Considering we noticed D-L being under pressure less than 48 hours ago, that comment from Galavet is pretty impossible in the first place. As he has not been ingame for the past two days.. Could you please stop trying to smear your useless propaganda, or at least check who of our leaders have been available and who not, before trying such things. Edit: Changed image to link. Thank you. This makes total sense, as no-one has ever used alts, forums, IRC or MSN to communicate things to others in eve. Oh wai.... Holds a bit more credance than 3 random lines of text on coad with no means of verifcation doesn't it.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:07:00 - [67] Originally by: Doosh Bagitis Darcuese are you just plain stupid or what? I didn't think that someone needed to login to the EVE client to post on forums, or get news from IM and TS. Officialy: "Im stupid and Im what". Thol will sign that me, myself and I ------>
Juan Andalusian Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:10:00 - [68] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Arcadia Joranum This is so ridiculous, its not even funny. http://images.shak.ca:8081/right.PNG Considering we noticed D-L being under pressure less than 48 hours ago, that comment from Galavet is pretty impossible in the first place. As he has not been ingame for the past two days.. Could you please stop trying to smear your useless propaganda, or at least check who of our leaders have been available and who not, before trying such things. Edit: Changed image to link. Thank you. This makes total sense, as no-one has ever used alts, forums, IRC or MSN to communicate things to others in eve. Oh wai.... The same way noone has ever fabricated conversations? Pain is meant to be felt
Slinktress Gallente legion of qui Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:16:00 - [69] I will personally vouch that if MC make a specific statement or "deal" they hold to it and value the trust earned from such transactions. I honestly have not personally dealt with such things with their "Tortuga" mates, so reserve comment there. Best wishes to all involved.
Doosh Bagitis THE FINAL STAND Divine Retribution Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:18:00 - [70] nice Darcuese you definitely saved a little respect right there.

Duncan Bannatyne BioDyne Industries	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:38:00 - [71] Originally by: Gontard Trying a little PR stunt to save what's left of MC image, worm ? This pretty much covers it. Duncan Bannatyne The Dragons Are Taking Over...
Max Teranous BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:42:00 - [72] Originally by: Chowdown Holds a bit more credance than 3 random lines of text on coad with no means of verifcation doesn't it. The complete joke attempt of a rapid attempted denial gave it alot more credance. That, and the D-L ships on your killboard as well Max
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:45:00 - [73] Originally by: Gontard Trying a little PR stunt to save what's left of MC image, worm ? No matter what you do or say the backstabbing stigma will always be on MC. You broken the treaties, you backstabbed your allies, nobody will ever trust your words again. Do you think anybody loves you now ? Your former allies are hating you, your old enemies still hates you but added to that, they also despise you. Patience hyenas, at some point you will be left alone and everybody will come for the final payback. so this means that MC were never truly "neutral" mercs but BoB lapdogs? the same MC who allowed BoB to take some of the Catch stations but didn't took any credit, as per sir molle's "FAT lady" thread? you know, if you're talking about MC being BoB's lapdogs, you must remember that all dogs bite if you stomp on them enough. but, if you're not referring at MC like BoB's lapdogs, then I don't see no backstabbing here. They are mercs and they are fighting to get some profit. Client-mercenary relationship starts when you put isk on the table, and ends when the payment stops. --- planetary interaction idea!
Chowdown Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:52:00 - [74] Edited by: Chowdown on 18/12/2007 10:53:21 Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Chowdown Holds a bit more credance than 3 random lines of text on coad with no means of verifcation doesn't it. The complete joke attempt of a rapid attempted denial gave it alot more credance. That, and the D-L ships on your killboard as well I think the rapid denial probably comes about as a result of it being a fabrication. May I remind you of the concept of proof or stfu?
Max Teranous BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.12.18 10:59:00 - [75] Originally by: Chowdown I think the rapid denial probably comes about as a result of it being a fabrication. May I remind you of the concept of proof or stfu? You're saying that poor retriever was friendly fire ? Why does no-one think of the mining barges Max
Chowdown Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:00:00 - [76] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Chowdown I think the rapid denial probably comes about as a result of it being a fabrication. May I remind you of the concept of proof or stfu? You're saying that poor retriever was friendly fire ? Why does no-one think of the mining barges No I am saying the quote is a fabrication
Juan Andalusian Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:01:00 - [77] Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Chowdown Holds a bit more credance than 3 random lines of text on coad with no means of verifcation doesn't it. The complete joke attempt of a rapid attempted denial gave it alot more credance. That, and the D-L ships on your killboard as well Ah so if we, who operate under NBSI, shoot former allies that are no longer blue since they decided to revoke docking rights (ie standings) means that one of the CEOs must have slagged them off in a totally random and bitter way. Uber deductive thinking there, Sherlock. Let me steer you to the right direction : The debate is not wether we are killing D-L or not it's wether Buttercup is posting complete fabrications. Pain is meant to be felt
nikhan Amarr Meridian Dynamics FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:01:00 - [78] Guys the quote is made up but we are killing d-l anyways. The offer is still valid then regardless
Minariel Airalat	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:05:00 - [79] Originally by: Louis Lane Originally by: Gnulpie Edited by: Gnulpie on 18/12/2007 08:20:28 Ohhh MC metagaming now and posting on forums what their 'spies' discovered in BoB? If MC already need this sort of stuff, it is really poor and they won't last long. And LOL ... who ever would expect anything else. Remember Xelas? M.pire? ISS? Really funny to see such a post from MC though yet another bob alt you guys are flooding the forums with bitter tears. i hear that mittens has to build super sized holding tanks to catch and store all of them now LOL @ Gnulpie being a BoB Alt. Does the billion ISK bet apply here, too? I could use a new freighter!
Louis Lane Minmatar Imperium Holding corp	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:06:00 - [80] Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Chowdown Holds a bit more credance than 3 random lines of text on coad with no means of verifcation doesn't it. The complete joke attempt of a rapid attempted denial gave it alot more credance. That, and the D-L ships on your killboard as well Ah so if we, who operate under NBSI, shoot former allies that are no longer blue since they decided to revoke docking rights (ie standings) means that one of the CEOs must have slagged them off in a totally random and bitter way. Uber deductive thinking there, Sherlock. Let me steer you to the right direction : The debate is not wether we are killing D-L or not it's wether Buttercup is posting complete fabrications. you can dish out the medicine but cant stand to take it yourselves? now bob knows just how velios and company felt when you locked them out with zero warning. or are you all just whining hypocrites?

Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:17:00 - [81] Edited by: Victor Vision on 18/12/2007 11:21:46 Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Gontard Trying a little PR stunt to save what's left of MC image, worm ? No matter what you do or say the backstabbing stigma will always be on MC. You broken the treaties, you backstabbed your allies, nobody will ever trust your words again. Do you think anybody loves you now ? Your former allies are hating you, your old enemies still hates you but added to that, they also despise you. Patience hyenas, at some point you will be left alone and everybody will come for the final payback. so this means that MC were never truly "neutral" mercs but BoB lapdogs? You know, that is what discredited MC in my opinion. Most of us knew that part of the MC & BoB deal was that MC must not do any serious attacks on BoB. I still do not understand why Seleene never publicly admitted to this, but instead kept saying that MC was open to all contracts for the right price and with a thought through plan. With statements hinting in this direction, it was clear that either Seleene was in reality not going to respect the deal they had with BoB, or Seleene was doing false advertisement for MC. Both of these possibilities were not very inviting to potential customers for MC. EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:18:00 - [82] While I am aware of the subject matter in the original post, I will not speculate publicly as to it's validity. This post should have never been made and does not represent the spirit of either the Mercenary Coalition or the Tortugan member alliances. Furthermore, as of this moment, any MC member posting on this forum without specific authorization will be subject to review by their CEO and possible ejection from their corp and alliance. - THIS FLEET FOR RENT!
Gontard Minmatar E-Truth	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:19:00 - [83] Edited by: Gontard on 18/12/2007 11:19:55 Originally by: Mynas Atoch The contract with BOB over Period Basis served us no further, so we tore it up and binned it. True colors . This is MC ?
Juan Andalusian Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:20:00 - [84] Originally by: Louis Lane Originally by: Juan Andalusian Originally by: Max Teranous Originally by: Chowdown Holds a bit more credance than 3 random lines of text on coad with no means of verifcation doesn't it. The complete joke attempt of a rapid attempted denial gave it alot more credance. That, and the D-L ships on your killboard as well Ah so if we, who operate under NBSI, shoot former allies that are no longer blue since they decided to revoke docking rights (ie standings) means that one of the CEOs must have slagged them off in a totally random and bitter way. Uber deductive thinking there, Sherlock. Let me steer you to the right direction : The debate is not wether we are killing D-L or not it's wether Buttercup is posting complete fabrications. you can dish out the medicine but cant stand to take it yourselves? now bob knows just how velios and company felt when you locked them out with zero warning. or are you all just whining hypocrites? Velios must have had some sort of uber Extra Sensory Perception then cause he was posting and making snide remarks about our offers long before we "locked him out". Originally by: nikhan Guys the quote is made up but we are killing d-l anyways. Exactly. D-L Made their choice... imho the right one tactically... same way MC made the "right" choice tactically. Both are now not blue anymore. Both reset their standings first. Pain is meant to be felt
Shoukei Caldari Boobs Ahoy	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:31:00 - [85] mynas is the mittanis alt. you heard it here first. here be signatures!
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:38:00 - [86] Originally by: Victor Vision Edited by: Victor Vision on 18/12/2007 11:21:46 Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Gontard Trying a little PR stunt to save what's left of MC image, worm ? No matter what you do or say the backstabbing stigma will always be on MC. You broken the treaties, you backstabbed your allies, nobody will ever trust your words again. Do you think anybody loves you now ? Your former allies are hating you, your old enemies still hates you but added to that, they also despise you. Patience hyenas, at some point you will be left alone and everybody will come for the final payback. so this means that MC were never truly "neutral" mercs but BoB lapdogs? You know, that is what discredited MC in my opinion. Most of us knew that part of the MC & BoB deal was that MC must not do any serious attacks on BoB. I still do not understand why Seleene never publicly admitted to this, but instead kept saying that MC was open to all contracts for the right price and with a thought through plan. With statements hinting in this direction, it was clear that either Seleene was in reality not going to respect the deal they had with BoB, or Seleene was doing false advertisement for MC. Both of these possibilities were not very inviting to potential customers for MC. What most ppl tend to forget is the fact that noone forced Mc to sign a contract which stated "forever". Mc's greed got in the way and they never thought about an exit strategy aslong as BoB was strong and all ran well. Various posters stated that Mc build up their Moms and Titans left right and center, sometimes even using bobs bpos rent free while pretending to the public that they were "true mercs". Now if you give them the doubt that they actually redeemed themself by this coup another intersting question pops up. A mercenary in eve is purely defined by his/her word to the employer. If Mc states publically like on SHC that they quit a deal as soon as it doesnt benefit them anymore, what does that say about their business goals ? In short, what if a situation arises where someone else simply offers a better deal to them or where a situation pops up which seems far more beneficial then their current contract ? Personally i think Mc did themself no real favour with rewriting their businessmethods. Now that the dust settles we have: -an entity which lied to the public about "beeing true mercs" for the last 3 years. -a merc group who will bail out of a contract as soon as a better option pops up. -a group which does really bad forum pr kicking their own image even further. As in other threads already said, there could be pages of what and why and who but two things will remain glued to your image. You lied to the public for years and you broke a contract because you found a better offer. Neither of it really suits your "mercs for hire" attitude.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:41:00 - [87] Originally by: Victor Vision Edited by: Victor Vision on 18/12/2007 11:21:46 Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Gontard Trying a little PR stunt to save what's left of MC image, worm ? No matter what you do or say the backstabbing stigma will always be on MC. You broken the treaties, you backstabbed your allies, nobody will ever trust your words again. Do you think anybody loves you now ? Your former allies are hating you, your old enemies still hates you but added to that, they also despise you. Patience hyenas, at some point you will be left alone and everybody will come for the final payback. so this means that MC were never truly "neutral" mercs but BoB lapdogs? You know, that is what discredited MC in my opinion. Most of us knew that part of the MC & BoB deal was that MC must not do any serious attacks on BoB. I still do not understand why Seleene never publicly admitted to this, but instead kept saying that MC was open to all contracts for the right price and with a thought through plan. With statements hinting in this direction, it was clear that either Seleene was in reality not going to respect the deal they had with BoB, or Seleene was doing false advertisement for MC. Both of these possibilities were not very inviting to potential customers for MC. wich brings us to the point , if they were lapdogs, the Tortuga can actually be an attempt (a sucessfull one till now apparently) for MC to return to their "neutral" roots without losing what they build in period basis. wich means, what's left from the MC's "neutral" image was actually saved with the Tortuga, unless you're a BoB member or a BoB alt, where the fact that MC left your side of the war actually means that your chances of taking back what you lost, are slimmer than chopstick. of course that if you take it from another viewpoint, such as "MC had a contract, thus they should ablige to it", I must say this: the mercenary way is guided thru a profit vs deficit balance. if the mercenary sees that the situation does not profit him anymore, then he is free for do whatever he wants to. He is a mercenary, not a rank-and-file soldier, in wich case, I say BoB made the mistake of trusting too much in a mercenary outfit. Never forget that relations between contractors and mercenaries are strictly for profit. Everything else secondary. this is purely from the viewpoint of a merc btw. many people think that just because we have sympathy for X or Y side, doesn't mean that we wouldn't take a contract against them. heck, I like Tri, and atm I'm having allot of fun fighting them. best of all is, we're even getting paid for that --- planetary interaction idea!
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:42:00 - [88] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 18/12/2007 11:34:20 While I am aware of the subject matter in the original post, I will not speculate publicly as to it's validity. This post should have never have been made and does not represent the spirit of either the Mercenary Coalition or the Tortugan member alliances. Furthermore, as of this moment, any MC member posting on this forum without specific authorization will be subject to review by their CEO and possible ejection from their corp and alliance. Edit for grammar. a) make random propaganda announcement.. b) realise it looks about as good as any other random alt COAD spam.. c) Attempt evac to moral high ground.. gj Seleene.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Nemon v3 Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:45:00 - [89] All lies! It's hard to push true over all this fals propaganda. The true is that, DL is mining belts for last 1.5+ years, every day, night and day. With some low active hours, during goon vacation in our homes and other usual"wanabe" hostiles. Back to mining thingy. All minerals was sold in EMPIRE (one of the reasons why ZYD and MEGA droped so much as well) and we managed to build up 600+ bilion isk's in that period of time, the plan was to invest in T2 bpo's. But CCP ruin our plans, and pushed invention in to game way to early. So, cause of the all this time spent down here, and since we fall in low with PB - we paid MC + friends to capture this region for us. There you go, true is out there. I fail to understand how anyone did not seen it so far. N.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.18 11:47:00 - [90] The smell of Patton is strong in this thread. :) I for one still like my favorite Scotsman. :) - -



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