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Pax Ratlin
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.12.20 15:57:00 -
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How NPC corps are organised as a game mechanic has nothing to do with macro miners ... get over it.
War Dodgers arn't the problem, the poor war dec mechanic is ... get over it.
No game mechanic can be made ungriefable ... just get over it.
Stop trying to solve a problem (macro miners) and one alledged problem (war dodging) by harming innocent bystanders (people who don't want to actively pvp).
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Pax Ratlin
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.12.20 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Christari Zuborov Only members of player corps can fly industrial classed ships. This would entail:
Mining Barges of all variations Freighters cargo haulers blockade runners
1 week cool down after leaving a corp before you can join another, and you cannot leave a corp while piloting an industrial classed ship.
I think your onto something here ... in fact i think we just need to add this little bit and we could solve the problem of war dodges also
everyone in a player corps can only fly noob frigates
Well done Christari Zuborov you found the solution!!!!
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Pax Ratlin
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.12.20 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Christari Zuborov Edited by: Christari Zuborov on 20/12/2007 17:52:20 Edited by: Christari Zuborov on 20/12/2007 17:51:19
Originally by: Pax Ratlin
Originally by: Christari Zuborov Only members of player corps can fly industrial classed ships. This would entail:
Mining Barges of all variations Freighters cargo haulers blockade runners
1 week cool down after leaving a corp before you can join another, and you cannot leave a corp while piloting an industrial classed ship.
I think your onto something here ... in fact i think we just need to add this little bit and we could solve the problem of war dodges also
everyone in a player corps can only fly noob frigates
Well done Christari Zuborov you found the solution!!!!
Wrong -
Jeez, sorry I haven't to spell it out for the reading comprehension impaired:
AFs, Dictors, BCs, BSs, Command Ships, Carriers, Heavy Dictors, HACs, and Cruisers aren't on that list. So while in a NPC corp, you could still fly those ships.
Sorry i didn't realise you were that big an idiot
The macro farmers are already organised into player corps ... there have been at least 3 threads about that this week alone. So there wardecable ... all they do is rotate accounts until the ones who have left the player corp can form another one .... no biggie
All that becomes is a game of cat and mouse ..... you dec, they have to wait a week to reform ... until then they have x number of accounts they can go to to do the same thing. So you have to find those corps and war dec them. You spend 100% of your time looking for macro farmers corps and they get on with buisness as usual
All your solution does is kill the game for non pvpers not in a player corp
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Pax Ratlin
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.12.20 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Neaghan Grebs I'd agree with taxing NPC corps. Why should sitting in the fluffy NPC happy land not experiencing the rest of the game be a better position than joining a player corp? Pod pilots are better than NPC's so why shouldn't pod pilot corps be better than NPC counterparts? Tax NPC corps 20% with no returns. Then 10% tax in a player corp with ship help etc would look very enticing.
Please read all the other threads from this week that explain again and again why this is a bad idea.
Trying to make people do something they don't wanna do and then punishing them for not doing it will result in mass defections to other MMORPG's.
But then again at least the lag in Jita would be cured.
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Pax Ratlin
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.12.20 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Christari Zuborov
It's a workable mechanic that wouldn't have to be carried out by one corp - several could participate.
So you want to cripple the game for a very large section of the player base so that you can make sure something that has already happened happens. Yes in that respect it's a very workable mechanic.
NPC corps = no industrials
no industrials = macro miners into player corps
player corps = war dec's
THERE ALREADY IN PLAYER CORPS!
Even with a week long cool down between joining corps there is a simple way around this as i have already shown.
Your solution effects everyone EXCEPT the macro farmer
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Pax Ratlin
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.12.20 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Neaghan Grebs Read ALL of the forums aye right, not a chance mate.
No just the 3 or 4 from this week on exactly this issue. But in case you don't feel like it let me summarize as best i can.
Originally by: Neaghan Grebs Anyways, EVE is all about risk and reward right? So if you want your full benefits join a player corp
And if i don't want those benefits i'll not join a player corp
Originally by: Neaghan Grebs and don't get hit by the NPC tax with no benefits.
Why should anyone be taxed for not getting benefits? That's not risk for reward that's punishment for less risk.
Originally by: Neaghan Grebs Leaving an NPC corp should be a step up in EVE,
No it's not it's just another way to play the game
Originally by: Neaghan Grebs Of course you can stay in NPC corps and not lose your precious ships, you just get taxed more for the privilege.
Wrong, can loose them, do loose them. No your suggesting people should be taxed for not being privileged
Originally by: Neaghan Grebs In a story point of view those taxes could be to pay off CONCORD so nobody can war-dec them.
In a story point of view, most npc corps are actually part of the government. Now i can't exactly see the Gallente Navy paying off CONCORD so no one will war-dec them.
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Pax Ratlin
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.12.20 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Christari Zuborov Pax,
When you step up and offer an idea, then you have a right to tell everyone how wrong theirs is. Just STFU noob.
I hate doing this cause it just looks bad but sometimes you just have to do it.
Erm even by your rules i DO have the right
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=273924&page=31
P.S. I am a noob and i'm not ashamed of it. How about you?
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