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Rells
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.20 17:16:00 -
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You can no longer miniwarp (warping on the same grid to a point 150km away) to a bookmark at range. The bookmark often only shows the approach option which will warp you to the bookmark at 0. Often we want to miniwarp to those bookmarks at range such as 40km or so. You havent been able to miniwarp your squad/wing/fleet at range before. That was bad enough but this change is horrible.
Furthermore, I can not miniwarp to gang mate except through clicking on them in space. Fleet window and all chat windows no longer work.
If this is on-purpose I can only express my most vehement objections. CCP needs to resist the pressure of the one dimensional people that want PvP to boil down to "my gun is bigger". Eve PvP is very tactical in nature but that has been eroded heavily by recent changes. I dont want this game to remove all tactics for the sake of carebears or simple pvpers that dont have a creative thought in their head.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance
The Last Stand
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Posted - 2007.12.20 17:18:00 -
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I'd file a bug report, if it's not in the post-patch notes then there's a good chance it's a bug.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2007.12.20 17:19:00 -
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You can no longer miniwarp (warping on the same grid to a point 150km away) to a bookmark at range. The bookmark often only shows the approach option which will warp you to the bookmark at 0. Often we want to miniwarp to those bookmarks at range such as 40km or so. You havent been able to miniwarp your squad/wing/fleet at range before. That was bad enough but this change is horrible.
Furthermore, I can not miniwarp to gang mate except through clicking on them in space. Fleet window and all chat windows no longer work.
Ugh good heavens. That's horrible. File some bug reports and let's all pray that it's a bug.
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Malcanis
High4Life
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.20 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
You can no longer miniwarp (warping on the same grid to a point 150km away) to a bookmark at range. The bookmark often only shows the approach option which will warp you to the bookmark at 0. Often we want to miniwarp to those bookmarks at range such as 40km or so. You havent been able to miniwarp your squad/wing/fleet at range before. That was bad enough but this change is horrible.
Furthermore, I can not miniwarp to gang mate except through clicking on them in space. Fleet window and all chat windows no longer work.
If this is on-purpose I can only express my most vehement objections. CCP needs to resist the pressure of the one dimensional people that want PvP to boil down to "my gun is bigger". Eve PvP is very tactical in nature but that has been eroded heavily by recent changes. I dont want this game to remove all tactics for the sake of carebears or simple pvpers that dont have a creative thought in their head.
Miniwarps were working normally for me yesterday.
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KillinVillin
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.20 17:31:00 -
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It is still working, only thin is that it will say approach instead of warp. If you know you are over 150km and click approach you will warp to the spot.
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Apocryphai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.20 17:51:00 -
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Just double checked, miniwarps seem to be working fine for me.
Two characters, in fleet, can warp to each other at any chosen range, when 150km+ away from each other. Can initiate the warp from overview and fleet window. Can make bookmarks at tactical miniwarp distances and can also warp to them at chosen ranges. Can also warp fleet to any and all of those points from fleet/overview/whatever.
Sounds like a client-specific bug maybe? Definitely bugreport it.
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Originally by: Victor Valka
What the skull-chick said.
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Rells
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.21 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: KillinVillin
It is still working, only thin is that it will say approach instead of warp. If you know you are over 150km and click approach you will warp to the spot.
That is only an option if you want to miniwarp at 0. Your covops pilots might not like that very much. In addition, it removed the tactical advantage of warping to a distance on a bookmark.
Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken! |
Rells
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.21 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Apocryphai
Just double checked, miniwarps seem to be working fine for me.
Two characters, in fleet, can warp to each other at any chosen range, when 150km+ away from each other. Can initiate the warp from overview and fleet window. Can make bookmarks at tactical miniwarp distances and can also warp to them at chosen ranges. Can also warp fleet to any and all of those points from fleet/overview/whatever.
Sounds like a client-specific bug maybe? Definitely bugreport it.
Strange given that everyone in my corp is having the same problem.
Four years is long enough to leave the corp interface broken! |
Kushan
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Posted - 2007.12.21 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Kushan on 21/12/2007 01:01:13
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Strange given that everyone in my corp is having the same problem.
Finally, CCP listened to reason and nerfed something that needed to be nerfed: Agony. :p
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Kaalen
Caldari
Symbiote Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.12.21 01:04:00 -
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This certainly needs to be fixed. Please don't dumb EVE down, CCP.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.21 01:04:00 -
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still working for me
we need these for farming in ani!
Originally by: Cecil Montague
They should change that warning on entering low sec to:
"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."
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Tzar'rim
Minmatar
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2007.12.21 01:18:00 -
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Works for me, on a similar note; before patch could you just target a gang member in space and hit the warp button or was it needed to find his avatar in chat and rightclick --> warp. I can't remember simply highlighting a gangmember and hitting warp, but it worked like that earlier today.
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.21 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim
Works for me, on a similar note; before patch could you just target a gang member in space and hit the warp button or was it needed to find his avatar in chat and rightclick --> warp. I can't remember simply highlighting a gangmember and hitting warp, but it worked like that earlier today.
They changed that a few months before Trinity.
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Siriyana
Astrum Contract Services Group
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Posted - 2007.12.21 04:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kushan
Edited by: Kushan on 21/12/2007 01:01:13
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Strange given that everyone in my corp is having the same problem.
Finally, CCP listened to reason and nerfed something that needed to be nerfed: Agony. :p
I LOL'd, srsly.
To the OP: I haven't had any problems with this...
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Shozo
Pay Now inc
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Posted - 2007.12.21 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Apocryphai
Just double checked, miniwarps seem to be working fine for me.
Two characters, in fleet, can warp to each other at any chosen range, when 150km+ away from each other. Can initiate the warp from overview and fleet window. Can make bookmarks at tactical miniwarp distances and can also warp to them at chosen ranges. Can also warp fleet to any and all of those points from fleet/overview/whatever.
Sounds like a client-specific bug maybe? Definitely bugreport it.
Strange given that everyone in my corp is having the same problem.
LOL.
this whole thread is a big LOL. everything is working as it was before for me and everyone i have asked about it. even logged in to test this very thing. i'm gonna have to go with the "*****ing just to *****" option in this case. as much as i would like to believe you as your previous threads usually have valid points. however, this time i don't see it and can't reproduce that which you speak of.
i'd bug report it instead of alerting the internetz.
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Rells
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.21 08:56:00 -
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I guess some people just have to be jerks. Even on a simple thread as this.
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Apocryphai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.21 09:19:00 -
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Edited by: Apocryphai on 21/12/2007 09:20:24
Originally by: Rells
Originally by: Apocryphai
Just double checked, miniwarps seem to be working fine for me.
Two characters, in fleet, can warp to each other at any chosen range, when 150km+ away from each other. Can initiate the warp from overview and fleet window. Can make bookmarks at tactical miniwarp distances and can also warp to them at chosen ranges. Can also warp fleet to any and all of those points from fleet/overview/whatever.
Sounds like a client-specific bug maybe? Definitely bugreport it.
Strange given that everyone in my corp is having the same problem.
Very strange indeed.
Let's just check that we're testing the same thing:
I have 2 characters on seperate accounts, on seperate PC's, both in the same (non-NPC) corp. I formed a fleet with the two of them. I undocked them both from a station, one in a destroyer, other in a command ship. Manually flew them to 150km away from each other.
Tested this very carefully and several times: Each could then warp to the other at 0, 10, 20, 30, 50, 70, 100km. They could initiate this warp from the fleet window/right-click, from the overview/right-click and from right-clicking on the icon in space.
I also created 2 bookmarks, 200km away from each other. As before I tested the warping several times, with both characters, and they could warp between those bookmarks no problems, with no restrictions on the range at which they could warp to.
Am I testing the right thing? Is this what you mean by mini-warps?
All this testing took place in Empire, just outside a station. I don't have any chars in 0.0 at the moment that I can test this with, but could I suggest you try this in Empire (if you haven't already)? It definitely sounds like some kind of strange bug.
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Originally by: Victor Valka
What the skull-chick said.
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Apocryphai
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.21 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
I guess some people just have to be jerks. Even on a simple thread as this.
Don't let the kids wind you up Rells, that's what they live for tbh, these forums always generate idiotic responses - think of it as the equivalent of smacktalk in local from people who've just had their T2 fitted battleship blown up by 15 newbs in T1 frigates - never worth responding to 
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Originally by: Victor Valka
What the skull-chick said.
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midge Mo'yb
R.U.S.T.
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.21 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Apocryphai
Originally by: Rells
I guess some people just have to be jerks. Even on a simple thread as this.
Don't let the kids wind you up Rells, that's what they live for tbh, these forums always generate idiotic responses - think of it as the equivalent of smacktalk in local from people who've just had their T2 fitted battleship blown up by 15 newbs in T1 frigates - never worth responding to
Trust me agony do not fly 15 tech 1 frigates regularly where i come from :P
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Lazuran
Gallente
Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.21 10:07:00 -
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The bug that shows "approach" instead of "warp" when you use a bookmark as target on the same grid, is about 2 years old.
It's a UI bug that affects everyone, so CCP is in no hurry to fix it. Now if it was a graphics bug with a ship owned by a handful of people ingame, it'd get fixed at first chance (see Tribal Tempest bugfix in the latest patch notes).
"...been designed for one purpose and one purpose only. Imagine a handful of repair drones pouring from the carebear's mouth. Now imagine they have um, nothing." -Unknown Hel redesigner (2007) |
Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: midge Mo'yb
Originally by: Apocryphai
Originally by: Rells
I guess some people just have to be jerks. Even on a simple thread as this.
Don't let the kids wind you up Rells, that's what they live for tbh, these forums always generate idiotic responses - think of it as the equivalent of smacktalk in local from people who've just had their T2 fitted battleship blown up by 15 newbs in T1 frigates - never worth responding to
Trust me agony do not fly 15 tech 1 frigates regularly where i come from :P
No, they send 13 dessies, 1 dictor, and 1 inty.
...or they send a Thrasher to blow up your Sabre 1v1... 
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