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Kessel Rock
GunTacK InC. DARK STAR.
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Posted - 2012.02.06 13:14:00 -
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Hello again EVE friends,
As IGÇÖm currently training Mining Barge to level 5, I have 5 days left, I need to make 200mil ISK to buy a Hulk Ship then I need more cash to outfit the ship. So IGÇÖm guessing around 300 to 400mil. What would be my best bet to make 400mil in 5 days?
I do not have a good ship to run any missions other then maybe T1 or lower. I have a retriever mining ship now. So any tips or tricks you guys could share to that I may possibly make this money by then?
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Chal0ner
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.02.06 13:41:00 -
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That much ISK, in so few days, with those ships (and probably skills). Not much left mate, if you already have some ISK to invest - trade. If not - sit in Jita and scam away ...
EVE is not a game for the impatient. I would normally have suggested L4 missions or 0.0 anomalies but in your ship ...  |

Hijeri
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.06 14:42:00 -
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Scamming. |

Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.02.06 14:47:00 -
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You have a retriever and for some reason you need to be in a hulk in 5 days, apart from that you expect to use 200 mil to fit said hulk. Just doesn't make much sense :P
There are ways to make that much isk but I doubt they're available to you, either because of SP, skill focus or eve knowledge. Still, have a look at my signature and go to my guide forum. One of the guides talks about how to make cash. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

malaire
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Posted - 2012.02.06 14:58:00 -
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Buy PLEX from account management with 20 USD/EUR, sell ingame for about 480 million ISK.
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |

Sin Pew
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.06 15:05:00 -
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malaire wrote:Buy PLEX from account management with 20 USD/EUR, sell ingame for about 480 million ISK.
I have a feeling he wanted to go the other way round  Sorry Kessel, if I knew how...  If in doubt... PANIC! EVE Board
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StarFleetCommander
V0LTA 0ccupational Hazzard
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Posted - 2012.02.06 18:43:00 -
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join a worm hole corp simple |

Cameron Zero
Red Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.06 18:47:00 -
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That much ISK in that sort of time? I think Malaire hit the nail on the head. Buy a PLEX, sell on the Market. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. GǪ" |

Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.06 21:18:00 -
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As the others have said above, with your SP and ships the options are few.
- Buy GTC and sell it as plex. The fastest way to make iskies.
- Go to Jita and scam. It's hit and miss and the consequences might come back at you later.
- Trading. If you (not your character, you) know how to trade this is probably your best choice of legit iskies. Otherwise it isn't the best time for learning and probably losing your isk.
Get a covetor instead. It's about 40 million fitted and rigged. You can get a basic one with as low as 25 million if you're really strapped for cash and it gets about 85% of the hulk's yield. You can then use that ship to earn a hulk. |

Kessel Rock
GunTacK InC. DARK STAR.
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Posted - 2012.02.06 23:32:00 -
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malaire wrote:Buy PLEX from account management with 20 USD/EUR, sell ingame for about 480 million ISK.
I didn't want to buy PLEX but it may be my only option. The only reason i want a HULK is because its the best mining barge out there. If i can mine more and faster i can more more ISK. the more ISK i make the faster i can get into T2 missions. (not including the time it takes for training skills) |
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Kessel Rock
GunTacK InC. DARK STAR.
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Posted - 2012.02.06 23:35:00 -
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Keras Authion wrote:As the others have said above, with your SP and ships the options are few.
- Buy GTC and sell it as plex. The fastest way to make iskies.
- Go to Jita and scam. It's hit and miss and the consequences might come back at you later.
- Trading. If you (not your character, you) know how to trade this is probably your best choice of legit iskies. Otherwise it isn't the best time for learning and probably losing your isk.
Get a covetor instead. It's about 40 million fitted and rigged. You can get a basic one with as low as 25 million if you're really strapped for cash and it gets about 85% of the hulk's yield. You can then use that ship to earn a hulk.
Not a bad idea. i see convetors for 14mil. What is the best item to use to increase the cargo hold? |

Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
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Posted - 2012.02.07 00:07:00 -
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2 x expanded cargohold II and 3 x medium cargohold optimization I rigs get a covetor to 9889 m3. You will ofc mine more per cycle if u replace the expanders with mining upgrades. Up to you. |

Dyaven
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Posted - 2012.02.07 00:21:00 -
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Earn $20 in less than three hours of work irl with minimum wage job, buy PLEX, sell ingame for ~480m. |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.02.07 00:25:00 -
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If you're interested in mining for a living, you should read this guide: http://www.eve-wiki.net/?title=Haladas_Mining_Guide
That's pretty much the mining Bible of Eve. It's slightly dated, but mostly just due to market fluctuations, the number crunching for yield and such is still perfectly accurate. |

malaire
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Posted - 2012.02.07 08:59:00 -
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Kessel Rock wrote:malaire wrote:Buy PLEX from account management with 20 USD/EUR, sell ingame for about 480 million ISK.
I didn't want to buy PLEX but it may be my only option. The only reason i want a HULK is because its the best mining barge out there. If i can mine more and faster i can more more ISK. the more ISK i make the faster i can get into T2 missions. (not including the time it takes for training skills) What missions? If you mean level 2 missions, they only need a cruiser and that is much easier and cheaper to get than Hulk.
So why not just get cruiser and skip mining.
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |

Luba Cibre
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Posted - 2012.02.07 09:05:00 -
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Just do some 10/10 plexes. Easy money in there. |

Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.02.07 12:49:00 -
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Kessel Rock wrote:malaire wrote:Buy PLEX from account management with 20 USD/EUR, sell ingame for about 480 million ISK.
I didn't want to buy PLEX but it may be my only option. The only reason i want a HULK is because its the best mining barge out there. If i can mine more and faster i can more more ISK. the more ISK i make the faster i can get into T2 missions. (not including the time it takes for training skills)
I'm going to conclude that you're terribly misinformed and I mean that in a constructive way, nothing you stated here makes any sort of sense.
- mining is terrible income in high sec even with a hulk. Would you mine in 0.0 then your lack of EVE experience means you'll probably lose that Hulk within days - would you want to do it anyway you don't need a 200 mil fit on that hulk - T2 missions, what are those. If you mean lvl 2 missions, newbies can do those in a cheap cruiser or even the free destroyer they got from the adv. tutorials - the more time you waste on training up mining related skills is time lost training ship related stuff, meaning you're even further away from becoming competent at combat
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
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Posted - 2012.02.07 13:26:00 -
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I heard the quickest way was to accept a courier contract, look inside the box, see billions of isk of material that only has a few mil colatoral on it. Then fail the contract and sell the minerals. |

Sin Pew
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.07 14:27:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:I heard the quickest way was to accept a courier contract, look inside the box, see billions of isk of material that only has a few mil colatoral on it. Then fail the contract and sell the minerals.
Good idea... - If someone's foolish enough to request only millions when shipping billions worth merchandise. - Once you got the nose to avoid scam contracts. - Once you have the cashflow to support the collateral to even accept the contract. - Once you have a ship that can freight those highly valuable goods through any system and don't fear either suicide gank or blockades.
OP can't fly more than T1 frigs/dessies(/cruisers?), can't afford Hulk, ...
Now, Kessel, in 5 days you'll be able to fly a Hulk, but did you train just the exhumer to 3 and its prerequisites? a Covetor with appropriate skills and a clever fitting will yield more ore than a bare prereq hulk but only cost around 40 mil fitted. Can you fit T2 strip miners? and T2 crystals for the various ores?
Sure in 5 days you *can* fly a hulk, but if your only goal is to make some ISK to have a ship worth flying in lvl2 missions, you're surely better keeping whatever ISK you can make for that ship, instead of spending it in a Hulk.
By the way, isn't Hulkageddon about to start? If in doubt... PANIC! EVE Board
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Lyrka Bloodberry
Spybeaver
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Posted - 2012.02.07 15:21:00 -
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What's that smell?
It smells like there is a "Someone ganked the Hulk I had all my money invested in and now I cannot afford a frigate" whine thread incoming.
Spybeaver |
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Beckie DeLey
Brigade of Guards Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.02.07 16:23:00 -
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If you want to make ISK, fast or otherwise, don't mine. Do something worthwhile and interesting instead. Sorry to say so, but the SP you put into Mining skills are only useful as a prereq to get into an Orca. ;)
Btw, a ship that's able to fly L2 missions costs like 1mill. 2mill if you get spendy on the fitting. It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |

TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
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Posted - 2012.02.07 17:31:00 -
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Sin Pew wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:I heard the quickest way was to accept a courier contract, look inside the box, see billions of isk of material that only has a few mil colatoral on it. Then fail the contract and sell the minerals. Good idea... - If someone's foolish enough to request only millions when shipping billions worth merchandise. - Once you got the nose to avoid scam contracts. - Once you have the cashflow to support the collateral to even accept the contract. - Once you have a ship that can freight those highly valuable goods through any system and don't fear either suicide gank or blockades.
There was a storey a little while ago (that I can't find a link to) where a newbie found a courier contract with a very very low colatoral (think it was only a few mil) to move a small volume of "stuff" something pathetic like 10 jumps.
So the newbie looked in the package and found something like 60bil isk worth of megacyte (I forget the exact number)
Anyway, his question was what's the fastest way to makes lots of isk... that's got to be it |

Kessel Rock
GunTacK InC. DARK STAR.
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Posted - 2012.02.07 18:38:00 -
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Lyrka Bloodberry wrote:What's that smell?
It smells like there is a "Someone ganked the Hulk I had all my money invested in and now I cannot afford a frigate" whine thread incoming.
Not really. Im still new to EVE. i wish i had all the skills for a hulk already but i don't. |

Kessel Rock
GunTacK InC. DARK STAR.
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Posted - 2012.02.07 18:40:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:Sin Pew wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:I heard the quickest way was to accept a courier contract, look inside the box, see billions of isk of material that only has a few mil colatoral on it. Then fail the contract and sell the minerals. Good idea... - If someone's foolish enough to request only millions when shipping billions worth merchandise. - Once you got the nose to avoid scam contracts. - Once you have the cashflow to support the collateral to even accept the contract. - Once you have a ship that can freight those highly valuable goods through any system and don't fear either suicide gank or blockades. There was a storey a little while ago (that I can't find a link to) where a newbie found a courier contract with a very very low colatoral (think it was only a few mil) to move a small volume of "stuff" something pathetic like 10 jumps. So the newbie looked in the package and found something like 60bil isk worth of megacyte (I forget the exact number) Anyway, his question was what's the fastest way to makes lots of isk... that's got to be it
How and where can i find these missions?
every one is saying that mining is low isk income. So then the question is what ship skills should i start traing? |

Tari Tari
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.07 18:49:00 -
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Kessel Rock wrote: every one is saying that mining is low isk income. So then the question is what ship skills should i start traing?
Literally anything but mining. And that is not an exaggeration. |

Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:12:00 -
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Kessel Rock wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:Sin Pew wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:I heard the quickest way was to accept a courier contract, look inside the box, see billions of isk of material that only has a few mil colatoral on it. Then fail the contract and sell the minerals. Good idea... - If someone's foolish enough to request only millions when shipping billions worth merchandise. - Once you got the nose to avoid scam contracts. - Once you have the cashflow to support the collateral to even accept the contract. - Once you have a ship that can freight those highly valuable goods through any system and don't fear either suicide gank or blockades. There was a storey a little while ago (that I can't find a link to) where a newbie found a courier contract with a very very low colatoral (think it was only a few mil) to move a small volume of "stuff" something pathetic like 10 jumps. So the newbie looked in the package and found something like 60bil isk worth of megacyte (I forget the exact number) Anyway, his question was what's the fastest way to makes lots of isk... that's got to be it How and where can i find these missions? every one is saying that mining is low isk income. So then the question is what ship skills should i start traing?
From what I recall of the courier contract jackpot, it was four contracts, each with a large collateral (1-4 billion). However, the contents were worth signicantly more than the collateral, so the pilot failed the contracts and ran off with the loot.
@ the op... There are several methods to quickly make significant isk in game, but they usually require a combination of scamming, trading, luck (Nullsec faction or officer spawns), and teamwork (WH's, Incursions, Hi-difficulty Plex).
Mining is a very passive form of making isk, usually very low stress and low profit. Here's a warning: if you put all of your iskies into a hulk this time of year (i.e. Hulkageddon is probably starting in the next month or so), then you're probably going to be a very sad panda when someone comes and destroys your hulk for the sport of it... Also, if you put 150m in modules on it... they'll destroy your hulk for the profit too... EVEN IN HISEC!!!! |

Kessel Rock
GunTacK InC. DARK STAR.
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Posted - 2012.02.08 15:13:00 -
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From what I recall of the courier contract jackpot, it was four contracts, each with a large collateral (1-4 billion). However, the contents were worth signicantly more than the collateral, so the pilot failed the contracts and ran off with the loot.
@ the op... There are several methods to quickly make significant isk in game, but they usually require a combination of scamming, trading, luck (Nullsec faction or officer spawns), and teamwork (WH's, Incursions, Hi-difficulty Plex).
Mining is a very passive form of making isk, usually very low stress and low profit. Here's a warning: if you put all of your iskies into a hulk this time of year (i.e. Hulkageddon is probably starting in the next month or so), then you're probably going to be a very sad panda when someone comes and destroys your hulk for the sport of it... Also, if you put 150m in modules on it... they'll destroy your hulk for the profit too... EVEN IN HISEC!!!! [/quote]
Hulkageddon does not sound like fun. I'll pass on that and start training more combat releated skills. I'm saving for a Drake at the moment. I love missels :) |

Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:59:00 -
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PPl shooting your hulk is always happening, not just during hulkageddon. It's also not very difficult to avoid. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.02.08 17:00:00 -
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Liam Mirren wrote:You just messed up, you replied with the same alt answering your own questions from the OP.
lol, yeah, that was funny. I was just about to point it out myself.
Edit: Though, looking back at it, it could also be a botched quote. |

Liam Mirren
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Posted - 2012.02.08 17:01:00 -
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mxzf wrote:Liam Mirren wrote:You just messed up, you replied with the same alt answering your own questions from the OP. lol, yeah, that was funny. I was just about to point it out myself.
Yeah, I reread that, then realised he made a bad quote.
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |
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